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4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

You surrendered when you told me to take it up with your deity...pardon, the Jew's deity.

Now we are making progress. But there still was no surrender.

Posted
37 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

Why you asking me? As you stated it's not up to me.

That was funny. You spend  many responses telling Jews who we are and where we can live and now suddenly its not up to you. Lol. You are the leader for us. We need you to  lecture us on where we should go Moses I mean Holy Ghost. Bottom line its up to those who live in Jerusalem to figure it out not you, not me and certainly not the pee on Israel Committee.

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On 2/24/2018 at 12:44 PM, Rue said:

That was funny. You spend  many responses telling Jews who we are and where we can live and now suddenly its not up to you. Lol. You are the leader for us. We need you to  lecture us on where we should go Moses I mean Holy Ghost. Bottom line its up to those who live in Jerusalem to figure it out not you, not me and certainly not the pee on Israel Committee.

Where have I done that?  Right, nowhere.

Telling someone what they should have done, is different from telling someone what they should currently do. That is what you are missing from the argument eyeball put forth some time ago about carving a chunk out of Germany for Israel. That is what should have been done. However that did not happen as we all can see where Israel currently is.

But it was Dog who always said it was not up to me, and well I have to come around and agree with him on this. It is not up to me, never has been. But you treat my posts as threats towards Israel as if they are being brought before the leadership in the Knesset. SEE WHAT GHOST IS DOING !!!???  YOU GONNA TAKE THAT??? 

Israel does not give two shits about your opinion, or mine, or Dog's or anyone's opinion on this board. Only YOU give a shit about what I post and rant on for pages about how wrong I am.  And last time I checked, you were not Israel. I doubt you can speak for them any more than I can.

 

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Following President Trump's lead, the leader of Canada's Conservative Party jumps onboard the Jerusalem train:

So "Scheer promises to recognizing Jerusalem....Trudeau prefers welcoming returning ISIS fighters."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-jerusalem-trump-israel-1.4552646

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Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted
On 2/23/2018 at 5:05 PM, DogOnPorch said:

 

Should Jerusalem be Israel's capital?

 

Up to Israel. My opinion is a decided yes.

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Posted
21 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Following President Trump's lead, the leader of Canada's Conservative Party jumps onboard the Jerusalem train:

So "Scheer promises to recognizing Jerusalem....Trudeau prefers welcoming returning ISIS fighters."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-jerusalem-trump-israel-1.4552646

Canada will not move embassy to Jerusalem, federal government says

A government official told The Globe and Mail on Tuesday that Canada will keep its embassy in Tel Aviv. The official also said Canada still does not recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital city

Posted
9 hours ago, jbg said:

Up to Israel. My opinion is a decided yes.

It's not up to Israel to annex land that doesn't belong to them. Israel is made up of West and East Jerusalem. East Jerusalem does not belong to Israel. Majority of the world agrees with that, including the Canadian government.

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13 hours ago, maymoon said:

It's not up to Israel to annex land that doesn't belong to them. Israel is made up of West and East Jerusalem. East Jerusalem does not belong to Israel. Majority of the world agrees with that, including the Canadian government.

 

Canada's current government kisses Islam's rear.

You do realize that Jordan annexed the West Bank/Jerusalem initially....right?

So it's okay if Arabs annex land.

:rolleyes:

 

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1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

So it's okay if Arabs annex land.

No its not. Its just as wrong when anyone does that.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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Folks, 

I took down a few garbage posts. 

Avoid personal banter.  None of you are the topic of this thread discussion. 

We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society.

<< Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, eyeball said:

No its not. Its just as wrong when anyone does that.

 

Sure it is. It is internationally termed 'occupied land' implying it belongs to the Arabs who initially annexed the West Bank. It can't mean something else as Jews bought their land from the Ottoman Empire just like the Arabs. Those Arabs that bothered to buy land, that is...

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Keeping in mind the Three Noes of 1967  that the PLO and Hamas STILL subscribe to...

No recognition of Israel.

No negotiations with Israel.

No peace with Israel.

Ever.

And this after taking US (and others) coin to enter into peace negotiations that never go anywhere.

Crooks.

 

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18 hours ago, maymoon said:

It's not up to Israel to annex land that doesn't belong to them. Israel is made up of West and East Jerusalem. East Jerusalem does not belong to Israel. Majority of the world agrees with that, including the Canadian government.

5 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Canada's current government kisses Islam's rear.

You do realize that Jordan annexed the West Bank/Jerusalem initially....right?

So it's okay if Arabs annex land.

:rolleyes:

 

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

No its not. Its just as wrong when anyone does that.

Except it's not worthy of a lengthy thread.  See Why Do Poland & Russia Not Have to Give Back Territory...and When Will Russia Give Kuriles Back to Japan?

Ah, but no one cares unless it's Westerners.

 

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  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

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The thread started as an attempt to question the right of Jews to call Jerusalem their capital.

The people who question this would not question the same claim by Muslims to Mecca or Catholics to Vatican City just Jews.

I see no one questioning Siekhs, Hindus, the Bahaiis and others as to where they have set  up their central  sites of prayer.

In fact the argument Jerusalem should be the capital of Palestine is not based on Islam. Islam does not define Jerusalem as it does Mecca or other cities.

Its a political issue for Palestinians who don't recognize not just Jerusalem but all of Israel as belonging to Jews.

This thread has the intent of  questioningIsrael's right to exist as a Jewish state not just in Jerusalem but all of Israel.

 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Rue said:

The thread started as an attempt to question the right of Jews to call Jerusalem their capital.

Jerusalem has only been in the Jews hands for the last 80 years.

3 hours ago, Rue said:

The people who question this would not question the same claim by Muslims to Mecca or Catholics to Vatican City just Jews.

Mecca has been in Muslim lands since ..   The Vatican City seems to be unique as well but that's been occupied by the Catholics since ......

3 hours ago, Rue said:

I see no one questioning Siekhs, Hindus, the Bahaiis and others as to where they have set  up their central  sites of prayer.

Possibly because most of us do not know much about it it. But I am sure there are a few contentions and conflicts between those groups.

3 hours ago, Rue said:

In fact the argument Jerusalem should be the capital of Palestine is not based on Islam. Islam does not define Jerusalem as it does Mecca or other cities.

Islam for sure defines Mecca. But with that notion, I guess Jerusalem is not defined by Jews. Well maybe, but that's been relatively recent.

3 hours ago, Rue said:

Its a political issue for Palestinians who don't recognize not just Jerusalem but all of Israel as belonging to Jews.

What is considered all of Israel?  I mentioned Isreal proper at one point, but I got some push back from you on that matter

3 hours ago, Rue said:

This thread has the intent of  questioning Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state not just in Jerusalem but all of Israel.

 

No, the topic was about Jerusalem being the capital of Israel. Your interpretation of why the thread was created is all in your head.

Posted
4 hours ago, Charles Anthony said:

Folks, 

I took down a few garbage posts. 

Avoid personal banter.  None of you are the topic of this thread discussion. 

Exactly, but some sure try to make it about the poster and not the post. I'll do better I swear!

Posted
11 hours ago, jbg said:

Ah, but no one cares unless it's Westerners.

 

That's what the West get for unifying under a Shining Beacon - lit up for all to see including some of most horrendous warts known to humanity.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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14 hours ago, GostHacked said:

Jerusalem has only been in the Jews hands for the last 80 years.

Islam for sure defines Mecca. But with that notion, I guess Jerusalem is not defined by Jews. Well maybe, but that's been relatively recent.

No, the topic was about Jerusalem being the capital of Israel. Your interpretation of why the thread was created is all in your head.

Jerusalem was sacked by the Romans, then the Muslims, then the Crusaders and then the Muslims. Every prayer book, and the Bible, refers incessantly to Jerusalem.  Jerusalem defines Israel the same was Mecca defines Islam and the Vatican defines Roman Catholicism. But the Jews are the ones whose claims are deemed questionable.

Go figure

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  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

Posted
15 hours ago, GostHacked said:

Jerusalem has only been in the Jews hands for the last 80 years.

Islam for sure defines Mecca. But with that notion, I guess Jerusalem is not defined by Jews. Well maybe, but that's been relatively recent.

No, the topic was about Jerusalem being the capital of Israel. Your interpretation of why the thread was created is all in your head.

Your first two  comment proves you deliberately ignore Jewish history. Your refusal to acknowledge Jewish history and pretend it only started 80 years ago in Jerusalem is testament to your agenda on this forum. Its testament to your agenda to taunt and insult Jews on this forum. 

Your last statement again makes no sense. You just finish deliberately misrepresenting Jerusalem as the capital of Jews lying that any connection is less than 80 years old then in the other statement above pretend that when I or anyone challenge your moronic statements about Jews and Jerusalem its not part of this thread.

Your words speak to your ignorance and bigotry towards Jews and your use of this forum to advance this agenda and then to pathologically try deny what you are saying,

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15 hours ago, GostHacked said:

Exactly, but some sure try to make it about the poster and not the post. I'll do better I swear!

You make every thread about Jews and denying our history . You came othread  to deny any connection of Jews to Jerusalem prior to some arbitrary 80 year rule you invented. Your comments are not just ignorant they are now deliberate taunts. Go on explain to the world why Jews  suddenly only have a connection being the centre of their civilization for 80 years. What an insipid attempt to justify your agenda. Not even white neo Nazi supremacists come on this board lowering themselves to the level of your discourse. 80 years. Right. This is about the poison you write. Making yourself a victim does not erase the crap you write. You will do better I swear! Right. You will continue to use this board to spread your anti Jewish comments and then pathologically deny what you said and its implications. You try in each and every post with a taunt to make it about you. You pronounce what people can say, tell them if they disagree with you its improper and unintelligent, and you pose as an expert on Jewish history making blatantly moronic and false comments about our history.

 

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