Argus Posted October 2, 2017 Report Posted October 2, 2017 13 minutes ago, Hudson Jones said: Another white nationalist terrorist kills people, but OMG MUSLIMS ARE THE REAL DANGER! I'm sure his mental stability and health will be brought up by the Islamophobes. Only because he's not a Muslim. There is no more evidence he was a white nationalist than there is that he was a Muslim. No one has yet found any membership in a radical group nor radical inclinations. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Boges Posted October 2, 2017 Report Posted October 2, 2017 He had a South Asian girlfriend. Not exactly the stereotypical "White Nationalist" thing to do. News just said he 19 guns in his room. I wonder if the bell hop helped him get them all up there, SHEESH! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Posted October 2, 2017 There is more unfounded speculation here than bullets in Las Vegas. Typical.... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Goddess Posted October 2, 2017 Report Posted October 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Boges said: You need to cite for claiming any of that as fact. ISIS claimed responsibility for it, saying the shooter was a "recent convert to islam". I haven't heard anything statements by the CIA or FBI yet. Wonder how a "16 year old girl in Turkey" has access to that info? Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Boges Posted October 2, 2017 Report Posted October 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Goddess said: ISIS claimed responsibility for it, saying the shooter was a "recent convert to islam". I haven't heard anything statements by the CIA or FBI yet. Wonder how a "16 year old girl in Turkey" has access to that info? And I've seen a tweet by a Melbourne Chapter of Antifa saying it was an attack against the Country Music fan Trump supporters. I highly doubt that he was converted Islam. It'd be pretty tough to get radicalized in rural Nevada without some serious digital footprint. Quote
Goddess Posted October 2, 2017 Report Posted October 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Boges said: And I've seen a tweet by a Melbourne Chapter of Antifa saying it was an attack against the Country Music fan Trump supporters. I highly doubt that he was converted Islam. It'd be pretty tough to get radicalized in rural Nevada without some serious digital footprint. I don't believe ISIS' claims, really. I also don't bellieve Altai has access to the Top Secret, high level "information" he/she/it posts here - always with no cite. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Goddess Posted October 2, 2017 Report Posted October 2, 2017 Where does the British connection come in? WTF is it talking about this time? Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
-TSS- Posted October 2, 2017 Report Posted October 2, 2017 There is a lot of conflicting speculation; some say he was a regular participant at anti-Trump demonstrations. However, his brother said he never made any political statements or didn't seem to be interested in political matters. Quote
Altai Posted October 2, 2017 Author Report Posted October 2, 2017 Now a question, this is the attacker and this is his last photo taken in event night. Why his eyes are closed ? Do they not any other photos of him ? Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
-TSS- Posted October 2, 2017 Report Posted October 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Hudson Jones said: Another white nationalist terrorist kills people, but OMG MUSLIMS ARE THE REAL DANGER! I'm sure his mental stability and health will be brought up by the Islamophobes. Only because he's not a Muslim. I don't think white nationalists consider country-music as their primary target of hate. 1 Quote
capricorn Posted October 2, 2017 Report Posted October 2, 2017 21 minutes ago, Altai said: Now a question, this is the attacker and this is his last photo taken in event night. Why his eyes are closed ? Do they not any other photos of him ? Maybe he's asleep at the bar...maybe he's signing a lullaby. Do you really need to see his eyes? Me, I don't want to see any pictures of him...none...ever. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Hudson Jones Posted October 2, 2017 Report Posted October 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, Boges said: See what happened in Edmonton. Yes, and the usual suspects on this forum have blamed Islam. Not the guy's mental instability or any other variables that are/may be involved. They decided to take this one sample and blame Islam. Because every other Muslim in Canada, who condemns an act like this does not represent Islam. Only the people who commit crimes do. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Boges Posted October 2, 2017 Report Posted October 2, 2017 48 minutes ago, Hudson Jones said: Yes, and the usual suspects on this forum have blamed Islam. Not the guy's mental instability or any other variables that are/may be involved. They decided to take this one sample and blame Islam. Because every other Muslim in Canada, who condemns an act like this does not represent Islam. Only the people who commit crimes do. I think there are several other samples to take from to determine that fundamentalist Islam is a global problem. Quote
Argus Posted October 2, 2017 Report Posted October 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Goddess said: Where does the British connection come in? WTF is it talking about this time? Why do you even read IT? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted October 2, 2017 Report Posted October 2, 2017 Why did it take an hour to stop this guy? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 Interesting family history: http://nationalpost.com/news/world/who-is-stephen-paddock-nothing-secret-or-strange-about-retiree-behind-las-vegas-shooting I wonder if open venues near high-rise buildings will need to be reviewed? Insurance costs may rise. Quote
Boges Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Argus said: Why did it take an hour to stop this guy? How could you tell which floor to go to and go there? Anyone who could see the muzzle flash was probably taking cover. I heard that they knew he was on the 32nd floor because smoke detectors went off in his room from all the gunfire. Quote
The_Squid Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) Seems the best way to get a 2nd-Amendment-gun-lovin-country-music-playin' cowboy to say he wants gun control RIGHT NOW is to take a few shots at him..... changes his tune immediately! Funny that.... https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/10/2/16404900/josh-abbott-band-guitarist-caleb-keeter-las-vegas-shooting-gun-control A bunch of children murdered in a school didn't phase him.... Edited October 3, 2017 by The_Squid Quote
ReeferMadness Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 This guy had 23 guns in the hotel room, some of which had apparently been modified for rapid fire (much faster than normal semi but not quite full automatic). He had another 19 guns he left at home. He had several thousand rounds of ammo. But hey, let's not be crazy and mention gun control. cuz the framers of 2a had exactly this situation in mind when they wrote it. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Altai Posted October 3, 2017 Author Report Posted October 3, 2017 9 hours ago, Altai said: Now a question, this is the attacker and this is his last photo taken in event night. Why his eyes are closed ? Do they not any other photos of him ? I see there is no answer. I read that there is a method to focus on the reflections in the victim eyes to detect what is around or to detect who is in front of him. May be someones closed his eyes with photoshop or especially shared a photo while he blinks. His partner has open eyes in the same photo but her eyes are soo small and slanted and may not have enough reflection. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 3, 2017 Author Report Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) He brings more than 10 suitcases full of weapons in the hotel room without getting caught by any security forces. Do you believe in this ? I dont. Edited October 3, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Boges Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 5 hours ago, ReeferMadness said: This guy had 23 guns in the hotel room, some of which had apparently been modified for rapid fire (much faster than normal semi but not quite full automatic). He had another 19 guns he left at home. He had several thousand rounds of ammo. But hey, let's not be crazy and mention gun control. cuz the framers of 2a had exactly this situation in mind when they wrote it. I'm pretty sure having that many guns kitted to go fully auto is already illegal. Quote
Altai Posted October 3, 2017 Author Report Posted October 3, 2017 6 hours ago, Altai said: He brings more than 10 suitcases full of weapons in the hotel room without getting caught by any security forces. Do you believe in this ? I dont. Now I believe, because this hotel has no security in entrance. People are freely getting in. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Boges Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, Altai said: Now I believe, because this hotel has no security in entrance. People are freely getting in. Yeah that's called living in a free country. He was a customer of the hotel since Thursday. Perhaps there should have been warning signs, but the hotel has some 3,300 rooms. Hard to keep tabs on everyone. Quote
Altai Posted October 3, 2017 Author Report Posted October 3, 2017 59 minutes ago, Boges said: Yeah that's called living in a free country. He was a customer of the hotel since Thursday. Perhaps there should have been warning signs, but the hotel has some 3,300 rooms. Hard to keep tabs on everyone. Wtf ? Can you enter a government offices without being searched ? or can you enter an airport without being searched in your "free" country ? Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
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