bush_cheney2004 Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Omni said: Trump contradicts himself on an almost day by day basis. You put your faith in such a quack? More faith than In Trudeau's campaign promises...every one broken. Economics trumps Virtue.
OftenWrong Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 32 minutes ago, Omni said: Yes indeed and I am certainly not laughing in the real sense of the word. Between "Rocket Man" and "Orange Boy" we could end up with some serious entrails overhead. Did you mean contrails?
Omni Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 36 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: More faith than In Trudeau's campaign promises...every one broken. Then you are so easily led. Wait 'till tomorrow though, your leader will have something equally stupid for you to bow down to. Kick out all the brown people maybe.
Omni Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 26 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Did you mean contrails? Oh whatever you like.
blackbird Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, eyeball said: Its not that simple, Trump is not a cause but an effect, - he's a symptom, of the long-term damage that's been done to America's most important institution, its electoral system. It's more likely a result of the general drift to liberalism and lack of action on undocumented migrants, crime, immigration policies, open borders, etc. Hillary and the dems are more interested in defending abortions rights and having gender neutral washrooms than keeping criminals and bad characters out of the U.S. Edited October 13, 2017 by blackbird
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Omni said: Then you are so easily led. Wait 'till tomorrow though, your leader will have something equally stupid for you to bow down to. Kick out all the brown people maybe. Most of the Canadian illegals in the U.S. are not "brown people". Economics trumps Virtue.
OftenWrong Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Omni said: Oh whatever you like. I just find that a curious, coming from someone who claims to be a pilot. Pilots know the word is contrails.
OftenWrong Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 7 hours ago, eyeball said: Its not that simple, Trump is not a cause but an effect, - he's a symptom, of the long-term damage that's been done to America's most important institution, its electoral system. He is a symptom yes, though not purely a result of some sort of flaw in the electoral system. He is the consequence of 8 years of unfettered liberalism. The Obamanation. For every political action, an equal and opposite reaction... 1
Bonam Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: He is a symptom yes, though not purely a result of some sort of flaw in the electoral system. He is the consequence of 8 years of unfettered liberalism. The Obamanation. For every political action, an equal and opposite reaction... I think the unfettered liberalism was not so much on the part of Obama as on the part of universities, coastal cities, celebrities, mainstream media, etc. Unfortunately, these places are only becoming further radicalized in their liberalism as a result of their aversion to Trump and their feeling of a need to "resist".
Omni Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 2 hours ago, OftenWrong said: I just find that a curious, coming from someone who claims to be a pilot. Pilots know the word is contrails. Only until you crash.
Omni Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Most of the Canadian illegals in the U.S. are not "brown people". and your point?
OftenWrong Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 20 minutes ago, Omni said: Only until you crash. So you're not actually a pilot...
hot enough Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 3 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: More faith than In Trudeau's campaign promises...every one broken. The only thing that Americans know less about than the English language, is other countries' everything and their own country's history.
H10 Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 10 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I think he's a symptom of people thinking they know more than they do. They will either start electing smart people (again) or possible go the other way and elect sports team mascots and that giant talking Kool Aid pitcher guy. You know maybe your right, I think this is the fault of the supreme court when they had allowed unlimited money in politics. It meant the wfew politicians around had to simply become huge corporate sell outs, which made Clinton much more competitive than she should have been and Trump.
H10 Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 2 hours ago, blackbird said: It's more likely a result of the general drift to liberalism and lack of action on undocumented migrants, crime, immigration policies, open borders, etc. Hillary and the dems are more interested in defending abortions rights and having gender neutral washrooms than keeping criminals and bad characters out of the U.S. Not really. There are two demcorat parties really. There are the progressive and the "classical liberals" which are basically republicans who are gender confused. These are basically your Hilary Clinton type candidates, they give wishy washy statements on illegals, they claim to be tough on crime, pro open borders, pro foreign trade and usually strong for abortion and and want all kind of weird things like men in women's washrooms. Trump beat Clinton because Clinton is a coward Republican, she believes most of the same things as Trump and is against the working class like Trump, but is too coward to admit it. The voters see right through it.
H10 Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 7 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: GM moving more Equinox SUV production to Mexico....striking CAMI workers in Canada are getting exactly what they deserve...unemployment. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/gm-canada-chevrolet-production-mexico-ingersoll-cami-strike-1.4351282 A Canadian owned car make has yet to build a final assembly plant in the U.S. or Mexico. Buh-bye NAFTA...Buh-bye Canada ! So much for a guy who claims to be pro-canadian, rrejoicing at our jobs going to mexico. On 10/11/2017 at 8:33 PM, bush_cheney2004 said: Doesn't matter...Carter was president and everyday Americans were in economic misery. There was actually a benchmark called the "Misery Index" and Carter set the record. Carter paid for this by losing in a record landslide election won by Ronald Reagan. Misery index is subjective, has nothing to do with president achievements or conduct. Alot of people felt miserable under Obama because Bush had destroyed the economy and they were homeless, alot of people felt miserable under Carter cause Nixon had practically destroyed America. 9 hours ago, blackbird said: Trump is not perfect but he is an improvement over the past presidents that did nothing about a number of serious problems. As far as I know Trump is the only one who advocated building a wall. The wall is badly needed. There are perhaps 11 million undocumented migrants in the U.S. A large number of those are criminals who commit crimes in the U.S. Some have murdered Americans. There are also major drug smuggling operations going on constantly with billions of dollars worth of cocaine and other drugs being smuggled across the border from central and South America. A wall probably won't stop it but it might slow it down somewhat. These drugs are being sold all over the U.S. and in Canada, and destroying the lives of millions of people. Obama basically did nothing about the crime and drugs. In fact the opponents of Trump made many cities "sanctuary cities", compounding the problem and making it harder to get rid of criminals. There are already large portions of wall, walls are ineffective. Most mexican illegals don't cross illegally. They enter America legally under tourist visas or under the guise of visiting family, once they are in they just skip town and don't return. The only people crossing outside the border are people who have already been deported multiple times and get flagged at the border or who don't have enough money to pretend to be a tourist. A wall would not work because the drug smugglers in Mexico have substantial power and access and what they do is tunnel under the walls. Even in Palestine, you have criminal organization tunnelling hundreds of feet under walls that go down to the bedrock. Then it becomes much more profitable to smuggle people too. You want to get rid of crime and drugs, its not going to happen by electing a guy who was on trial for rape and fraud and child rape. 4 hours ago, blackbird said: I'm afraid name-calling and adjectives such as "stupidest, piss away, idiocy, figgin idiot" don't cut it. They don't have any substance. You'll have to think a little deeper and come up with something more meaningful that can be examined for substance. If you had ever read or seen any documentaries, the drugs are coming from central and south Americans in the drug producing areas being brought up by latin Americans, then smuggled into the U.S. by various ways. Billions of dollars worth a year that is harming millions of people in America. But this seemed to be a low priority for Obama and his predecessors. Trump is determined to take action although there are a lot of representatives in government dragging their feet. The latins would argue, why are Americans buying so much drugs, willing buyer, willing seller. Trump is great on talking but where is the action.
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Omni said: and your point? My point is obvious....President Trump will be one of the greatest ever if he can reverse the scourge of illegal immigrants in the United States, including those from Canada. So far he is doing just that..... 1 Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, blackbird said: If you had ever read or seen any documentaries, the drugs are coming from central and south Americans in the drug producing areas being brought up by latin Americans, then smuggled into the U.S. by various ways. Billions of dollars worth a year that is harming millions of people in America. But this seemed to be a low priority for Obama and his predecessors. Trump is determined to take action although there are a lot of representatives in government dragging their feet. Quote The Pharmacies Thriving in Kentucky's Opioid-Stricken Towns In a year, one county filled enough prescriptions for 150 doses of painkillers per resident. Eleven drug stores, mostly independents, are scattered about a tiny city of 1,500 people. Many have opened in the past decade—four in the past three years. Story Building a wall will certainly make it easier for the big American pharmaceutical companies to monopolize the addiction industry. I guess part of making America great again is to put American drug dealers back to work selling drugs instead of employing foreign drug dealers Go Trump Go! Edited October 13, 2017 by eyeball A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Omni Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 11 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: My point is obvious....President Trump will be one of the greatest ever if he can reverse the scourge of illegal immigrants in the United States, including those from Canada. So far he is doing just that..... So far all he has really done is fire everybody from his cabinet that know what they are doing. Tillerson and Kelly will be next it would seem. Pretty soon the cupboard will be bare.
blackbird Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 2 hours ago, eyeball said: Building a wall will certainly make it easier for the big American pharmaceutical companies to monopolize the addiction industry. I guess part of making America great again is to put American drug dealers back to work selling drugs instead of employing foreign drug dealers Go Trump Go! You're mixing two different drug problems. Prescription drugs don't come in illegally and have nothing to do with the billions of dollars worth of illegal drugs like cocaine. Of course the wall has nothing to do with prescription drugs. You should know that much.
Omni Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 So Trump announces just now he is sending the Iran deal back to congress for a little re-jigging. At least he didn't excersise his authority to rip it up as he blathered on about doing during his campaign. Again I suspect the "grown ups" around the WH explained to him that being able to keep an eye on Iran is better than having the door slammed in his face.
xul Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: My point is obvious....President Trump will be one of the greatest ever if he can reverse the scourge of illegal immigrants in the United States, including those from Canada. So far he is doing just that..... I would agree with you if you stated "President Trump would be one of the greatest ever if he could reverse something..." I remember you put your faith in President Bush, but he didn't save the day. Then you put your faith in President Obama, but he also didn't save the day. Now you put your faith in President Trump, I'm sure that he will fail you and his voters. Trump is an American president, not the dictator of China Deng Xiao Ping, so he can't force any reform on Americans by tanks like what Deng Xiao Ping did to Chinese in 1989. To perform such kind of reform, Trump need to do what all the greatest presidents before him did during their days: Trump needs to persuade the majority of American people, but he charisma ends up at extreme right wingers. Trump needs to co-operate and compromise with other political leaders, include opposite leaders, but from his behavior, it seems like he hasn't realized that the election is over. Trump needs more Made in America to make America great again, but what we have read from papers and TVs are President Trump targets F-35, President Trump targets Air Force One, President Trump, LOL, President Trump's fans target J-Law.....All of these targets are Made of America. It seems like the only American brand President Trump in favour of is Ivanka, which is Made in China, you know.... As a military personal, I suppose you know that if you want to win a war or battle, you not only need to set a target, but also need a feasible plan, which President Trump has none, and above all, a qualified commander, which President Trump...if Trump was a pilot, would you want to aboard a B-52 flying with him? Edited October 13, 2017 by xul
taxme Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 5:16 PM, Kerfuffle said: The three stooges Donald Trump, Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan are neck and neck for having the dubious honor of being the worst Commander in Chief. It's slowly sinking in on Republicans that Trump is working towards becoming the worst president ever. Some of Donald Trumps achievement’s so far… talking about his penis size during a presidential debate, who talked about grabbing women’s genitals without her consent, who lied about the size of the crowds on his inauguration day, coordination between Donald Trump's campaign and the Russian government during the presidential election, who suggested equivalency between white supremacists and anti-racists. And the list goes on in his short 7 month tenure. No matter how much cheerleading Faux News does, Republicans are realizing that their Republican president is authenticating that he is an idiot. So who do you think is the worst president? Make America Great Again (When Trump is run out of office) I see that you are a fanatical follower of CNN, MSNBC and CBC and as to where you get all you're bs from. Trump sneezes and he will get blamed for half of Americans getting a cold. Trump is mostly surrounded by RINO McCain traitors who are just as corrupt as the dumbocrats Obama and Hillary were. 60 million Americans voted for Trump and are still followers because they know that he is the man for the job. Those fake news outlets mentioned above come up with all kinds of lies to try and make Trump look bad for America. Obamarama and Clinton and Bush were the worse three presidents that I can think of right now. The only one that can make America great again is the Donald. Trump is pissing off plenty of those losers and liars and corrupt politicians who fear that they just might get booted from their positions as liars and crooks in the future. I hope that they all do get canned for trying to destroy America and turn it into a third world hell hole. You should worry more about how our dear fearless feminist leader PM and his trying to turn Canada into a third world hell hole, and stop worrying about Trump as much as you do.
taxme Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 17 hours ago, Omni said: Then you are so easily led. Wait 'till tomorrow though, your leader will have something equally stupid for you to bow down to. Kick out all the brown people maybe. And all this coming from someone who thought that any day now Trump would be impeached, and that the Russians hacked the election, and Mueller was going to get Trump. So far all you have shown us here is that your predictions have all amounted to nothing. And people should still believe what you say? Ha-ha-ha. Stop listening to fake news outfits like CNN, MSNBC, CBC and start listening to Fox and Hannity for a change. Learn something other than always trying to spread liberal cabal bankster manure around the place. What is needed in America and Canada is to kick out all illegals and start saving the taxpayer's billions of tax dollars for a change instead of blowing it on illegal migrant criminals who should not be here. Why don't you ever show and start giving a chit about Canada for a change instead of always worrying about Trump? Did Trump take a toy away from you and now you are mad at home? Well?
Omni Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, taxme said: And all this coming from someone who thought that any day now Trump would be impeached, and that the Russians hacked the election, and Mueller was going to get Trump. So far all you have shown us here is that your predictions have all amounted to nothing. And people should still believe what you say? Ha-ha-ha. Stop listening to fake news outfits like CNN, MSNBC, CBC and start listening to Fox and Hannity for a change. Learn something other than always trying to spread liberal cabal bankster manure around the place. What is needed in America and Canada is to kick out all illegals and start saving the taxpayer's billions of tax dollars for a change instead of blowing it on illegal migrant criminals who should not be here. Why don't you ever show and start giving a chit about Canada for a change instead of always worrying about Trump? Did Trump take a toy away from you and now you are mad at home? Well? Already well known the Russians hacked the election. Mueller is far from finished. Trump is running scared. You get your info from Faux news I suspect or even further right wing nut bat sources. You and Trump should keep your toys and leave the serious issues to grown ups.
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