betsy Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) What happens next door almost, always ends up happening here. Right on the heels of Charlottesville rally, a nationalist group had announced a rally on September at the University of Toronto. Right wing extremism is on the rise - which shouldn't come as a surprise. I've been saying it for a decade now, that the pendulum tend to swing from one extreme end to the other. Extreme left wing ideology and extreme right wing. Quote U of T says no 'nationalist rally' to be hosted on campus, not ruling out possibility Event 'the beginning of something more,' researcher on right-wing extremism says A Facebook page for the "Toronto Nationalist Rally" describes the event as scheduled to take place on Sept. 14 on the university grounds. "Join us ... as we discuss the nationalist movement in Canada the future of our country," says the page for the event hosted by the Canadian Nationalist Party. The page also says "anyone who violates the freedom of expression or the physical well-being of another person will be immediately escorted out and handed over to law enforcement." The website for the Canadian Nationalist Party — not a registered political party in Canada — outlines a 21-point platform calling for the removal of the "destructive stance of multiculturalism" from the Charter and the formation of a national citizen militia for the purpose of "self-defense [sic]," among other things. Perry says while the white supremacist movement may be more "muted" in Canada, she's starting to see such groups operate in a much more public way. "We're certainly seeing a dramatic shift," she said, adding that she's already heard of two demonstrations planned for later this month. "They're becoming ever bolder, I think, and quite happy and quite comfortable being in the public eye." http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/university-of-toronto-nationalist-rally-1.4247068 Edited August 15, 2017 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) Extreme left isn't an influential presence. That is just a rationalization for fascists. Edited August 15, 2017 by Michael Hardner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 What would you do if someone create an armed native-nationalist group attacking Canadian police and soldiers, even civilians ? Because technically you are invaders there in Canada according to today's understanding of politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, Altai said: What would you do if someone create an armed native-nationalist group attacking Canadian police and soldiers, even civilians ? Because technically you are invaders there in Canada according to today's understanding of politics. Then hand Turkey back to its "rightful owners"...the Greeks/Macedonians 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Extreme left isn't an influential presence. That is just a rationalization for fascists. From what I've read 20% of the NDP caucus are extreme Left and want to nationalize industries, including the banks and auto industries. How much of a presence do you think Nazis hold in the Conservative party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Then hand Turkey back to its "rightful owners"...the Greeks/Macedonians This is not an answer for my question. Please start another topic for another country. Yes, you are invaders there and native people legally has right to kick you out. What would you do if such an armed resistence happen one day in future ? Edited August 15, 2017 by Altai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Just now, Altai said: This is not an answer for my question. Please start another topic for another country. Yes, you are invaders there any native people legally has right to kick you out. What would you do if such an armed resistence happen one day in future ? Turkey occupies Greek territory. Get out you invaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Turkey occupies Greek territory. Get out you invaders. Not just Turkey. Syria was a Christian land, as well. So was Egypt, for well over a thousand years, in fact, until Muslim invaders took over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Argus said: Not just Turkey. Syria was a Christian land, as well. So was Egypt, for well over a thousand years, in fact, until Muslim invaders took over. It was all non-Muslim. Before Islam, Allah was a local Moon god of the Arabs. Edited August 15, 2017 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 And by occupation...I mean literally places like Smyrna (renamed Izmir by the Turkish invaders) where 10s of thousands died fleeing the Turks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_fire_of_Smyrna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 How come American natives cannot organize to start a freedom movement while any groups around the World can do such things, even the ones has no right to do so. Because these poor oppressed people are not supported by any countries there in America. They are isolated, stuck and massacred. What would you think if Latina countries and Russia support them strategically and logistically ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonJowett Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 25 minutes ago, Argus said: From what I've read 20% of the NDP caucus are extreme Left and want to nationalize industries, including the banks and auto industries. How much of a presence do you think Nazis hold in the Conservative party? What have you read? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Altai said: How come American natives cannot organize to start a freedom movement while any groups around the World can do such things, even the ones has no right to do so. Who says they can't organize a movement? They've done their protests, too. Edited August 15, 2017 by betsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Extreme left isn't an influential presence. That is just a rationalization for fascists. It may not be influential. Since you have not been the target of extreme and not so extreme leftist discrimination on campus, you might have a bias as to whether it influences let alone if it influences.. I would on this one agree with Besty that the left's intolerance and the right's intolerance can be a reaction to each other's views-I don't think they operate independently of one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 5 hours ago, Altai said: What would you do if someone create an armed native-nationalist group attacking Canadian police and soldiers, even civilians ? Because technically you are invaders there in Canada according to today's understanding of politics. Ask that of Armenians or Kurds in regards to Turkey and get back to me. It will help me shape my answer. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 9 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Then hand Turkey back to its "rightful owners"...the Greeks/Macedonians No, claim Earth for the Earthlings and get your stupid countries off our planet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Just now, eyeball said: No, claim Earth for the Earthlings and get your stupid countries off our planet. Sure thing, Mr Borg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 7 hours ago, Argus said: How much of a presence do you think Nazis hold in the Conservative party? More than enough. All it takes is a smidge - like polonium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Just now, eyeball said: More than enough. All it takes is a smidge - like polonium. Names? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Sure thing, Mr Borg. You're free to leave. Absorbing you would be like absorbing polonium, who needs it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 1 minute ago, eyeball said: You're free to leave. Absorbing you would be like absorbing polonium, who needs it? At least you admit you wish to destroy society and create chaos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Names? 22 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: At least you admit you wish to destroy society and create chaos. You have to get rid of the old to make room for the new. It's natures way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Just now, eyeball said: You have to get rid of the old to make room for the new. It's natures way. Sure thing, Herr Heydrich. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 You got it Mo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capricorn Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: You have to get rid of the old to make room for the new. It's natures way. What is the cut off age of humans you want to get rid of? Would that be all seniors over 65? Or would you start with seniors who are white? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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