The Battle of Charlottesville

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Wilber said:

That's pretty cynical and I don't think it is true of many people, some of them American rich white men

 

You're free to believe in the better angels of our nature. Just try not to look shocked as the bayonet goes through your tummy-tum.

[hot enough]

9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

 Complete hyperbole.

The tens of millions dead, the over 70 countries illegally invaded, the myriad rapes, the planned genocides of peoples, ... all illustrate that your empty words are Michael Hardner at his best. 

[hot enough]

11 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

You're free to believe in the better angels of our nature. Just try not to look shocked as the bayonet goes through your tummy-tum.

We know where you stand, dop, fine upstanding citizen that you are. 

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, hot enough said:

We know where you stand, dop, fine upstanding citizen that you are. 

 

ESL students never get analogies.

[hot enough]

9 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

ESL students never get analogies.

From a big supporter of war criminals/terrorists/genocides, to a guy that will outright lie/fabricate/state things with no evidence, of what value do you consider your words have?

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, hot enough said:

From a big supporter of war criminals/terrorists/genocides, to a guy that will outright lie/fabricate/state things with no evidence, of what value do you consider your words have?

 

You thought they were my words. That's awesome!

Four score and....

[GostHacked]

On 8/17/2017 at 7:27 PM, Michael Hardner said:

I don't think violence is a good way to counter fascists, but I also reject the idea that there is moral equivalence here.

Then you might want to re-think the whole war on terror. If violence won't work here, it won't work there either.

[hot enough]

9 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

You thought they were my words. That's awesome!

Four score and....

Typical DogOnPorch deception. Right out of left field.

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, GostHacked said:

Then you might want to re-think the whole war on terror. If violence won't work here, it won't work there either.

 

The US Civil War did end with a victory for the Union over the Confederacy. It took four solid years of some of the bloodiest fighting imaginable. Even by so-called modern standards.

[GostHacked]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

There are things called books that explain history.  That's why we don't need to send our children to Hitler High to figure it out.

HIstory is written by the winners, and has a slight slant of who are the good guys. History is almost objective in this post-truth era of the Internet. Simply because there is no way for anyone to really vet anything they see online.

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, GostHacked said:

HIstory is written by the winners, and has a slight slant of who are the good guys. History is almost objective in this post-truth era of the Internet. Simply because there is no way for anyone to really vet anything they see online.

Not true. Some of the absolute best histories are written by the losers.

 

[hot enough]

On 8/17/2017 at 4:38 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Quite to the contrary, I readily admit and acknowledge such policies in the United States, with no need to tear down statues or plaques.

Your tallest tale yet.

[hot enough]

11 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

The US Civil War did end with a victory for the Union over the Confederacy. It took four solid years of some of the bloodiest fighting imaginable. Even by so-called modern standards.

Reality is of no consequence to you, dop. 

[DogOnPorch]

4 minutes ago, hot enough said:

Typical DogOnPorch deception. Right out of left field.

Well, now time passed and now it seems
Everybody’s having them dreams
Everybody sees themselves
Walkin’ around with no one else
Half of the people can be part right all of the time
Some of the people can be all right part of the time
But all of the people can’t be ALL right ALL of the time
I think Abraham Lincoln said that
“I’ll let you be in my dreams if I can be in yours”
I said that.

---Bob Dylan

[GostHacked]

On one side of me, I am opposed to the statues in the cities. But on the other side, they should still remain in some fashion.  Put them all in a museum as a reminder of what it represents.

We need to remember history, not wipe it out.

[Wilber]

14 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

You're free to believe in the better angels of our nature. Just try not to look shocked as the bayonet goes through your tummy-tum.

I think the actions of many wealthy people with an interest in preserving history have demonstrated it. Of course they are often at odds with greedy people who have no interest in preserving it.

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, GostHacked said:

On one side of me, I am opposed to the statues in the cities. But on the other side, they should still remain in some fashion.  Put them all in a museum as a reminder of what it represents.

We need to remember history, not wipe it out.

 

Where will pigeons sit???? Let's rethink this.

[Michael Hardner]

14 minutes ago, hot enough said:

The tens of millions dead, the over 70 countries illegally invaded, the myriad rapes, the planned genocides of peoples, ..

Those aren't the hallmarks of Nazism

 

[Michael Hardner]

9 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

Then you might want to re-think the whole war on terror. If violence won't work here, it won't work there either.

I don't think I have expressed an opinion on the war on terror.

 

[hot enough]

10 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

We need to remember history, not wipe it out.

History, in the open and free west, has long been wiped out. When genocides can be so easily hidden, just think what else can.

[hot enough]

10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Those aren't the hallmarks of Nazism

Michael Hardner being coy, just before he flees. 

[Michael Hardner]

8 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

HIstory is written by the winners, and has a slight slant of who are the good guys. History is almost objective in this post-truth era of the Internet. Simply because there is no way for anyone to really vet anything they see online.

That sounds post.modernist and nonsensical.  Also, doesn't really address the point I was responsible to.

[GostHacked]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't think I have expressed an opinion on the war on terror.

 

The notion is the same. Not surprised you failed to see that.

[GostHacked]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

That sounds post.modernist and nonsensical.  Also, doesn't really address the point I was responsible to.

Most of your points recently have been terrible and counter productive.

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Wilber said:

I think the actions of many wealthy people with an interest in preserving history have demonstrated it. Of course they are often at odds with greedy people who have no interest in preserving it.

 

Money greater than good will.