Refugee crisis escalating

[CITIZEN_2015]

20 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

???   Some Haitians speak better French than Canadians...what could go wrong ?

 

So they speak French. That makes them compatible? Just look how people live in Haiti and how unsafe the country is. There is an almost civil war there for years.

Edited August 5, 2017 by CITIZEN_2015

[bush_cheney2004]

9 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

So they speak French. That makes them compatible? Just look how people live in Haiti and how unsafe the country is. There is an almost civil war there for years.

 

So send them all to Quebec....then they can fight the Anglophones for independence !

[hot enough]

1 hour ago, capricorn said:

I guess you haven't noticed that all politicians of all stripe suck up to minorities and special interest groups to win their vote.

As eyeball has pointed out, you are being a hypocrite and only when you were called out on your hypocrisy did you backtrack and try to make out that you are balanced, which is of course a huge laugh. 

[hot enough]

55 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Canada has very much had a historical role in destabilizing Haiti.   Enjoy the Haitian refugee "blowback".....

Up pops Miss War Crimes, Miss Terrorism, Miss Baby Killer, Miss Grand Larceny, Miss Rapist attempting to lecture others. Aren't you just the dictionary definition of GRAND HYPOCRISY! 

For as Bush says, 'If you aren't with us you are with the terrorists', [the phony ones he created]. And you, b_c, are the biggest lover of all this deep evil. 

[hot enough]

29 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Just look how people live in Haiti and how unsafe the country is. There is an almost civil war there for years.

For phucks sakes, do you folks ever read anything that isn't in your bubble? The US wrecked Haiti, the US has stolen the vast majority of Haiti's wealth, the US has created the havoc and turmoil that is Haiti, because that is all the US ever does!

[hot enough]

2 hours ago, AngusThermopyle said:

I'm not the least bit surprised that you ignore a valid question because you can't answer it, as usual. Back of the bus for you, the short bus.

Lord, you conservative Everybodyaphobes are intellectual midgets!!

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Canada has very much had a historical role in destabilizing Haiti.   Enjoy the Haitian refugee "blowback".....

 

 

1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Canada has very much had a historical role in destabilizing Haiti.   Enjoy the Haitian refugee "blowback".....

 

We should not be involved in Haiti at all.  We need to get out of that place and have nothing to do with it.  It's a disaster zone and they will only bring troubles to Canada.

[CITIZEN_2015]

1 hour ago, hot enough said:

For phucks sakes, do you folks ever read anything that isn't in your bubble? The US wrecked Haiti, the US has stolen the vast majority of Haiti's wealth, the US has created the havoc and turmoil that is Haiti, because that is all the US ever does!

If true then send them to US why the hell Canada should pay a price whenever there is instability or war somewhere on this planet!!!!!!.

Edited August 5, 2017 by CITIZEN_2015

[GostHacked]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

Oh ffs...real lefties were warning you about this nearly 15 years ago. But did you listen? 

No, you were to busy laughing and rolling your eyes.

Was it too much to ask governments to address the issues that were causing refugees? Of course it was because that would have interfered with efforts to exacerbate those issues.

We deserve 10 times the amount of refugees we're getting. And fyi...you still haven't seen anything yet.

This all was predictable.  But interesting that most of these people heading to QC are from Haiti.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, capricorn said:

I guess you haven't noticed that all politicians of all stripe suck up to minorities and special interest groups to win their vote.

Yes but what's most noticable is that you only whine about it when you perceive anything left of the conservatives doing it.

[GostHacked]

6 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

If true then send them to US why the hell Canada should pay a price whenever there is instability or war somewhere on this planet!!!!!!.

Well, when the quake hit Haiti, we should have helped, but instead there was a lot of focus on a corrupt government instead of helping the people of Haiti.

[hot enough]

20 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

If true then send them to US why the hell Canada should pay a price whenever there is instability or war somewhere on this planet!!!!!!.

That doesn't absolve you of your stunning ignorance.

Canada has long supported the war criminal/terrorist USA and Canada is, in a tiny tiny fashion, paying for its war crimes and support of these vicious war criminals/terrorists.

Edited August 5, 2017 by hot enough

[hot enough]

13 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yes but what's most noticable is that you only whine about it when you perceive anything left of the conservatives doing it.

Covered that posts ago. 

[hot enough]

35 minutes ago, blackbird said:

 

We should not be involved in Haiti at all.  We need to get out of that place and have nothing to do with it.  It's a disaster zone and they will only bring troubles to Canada.

But Canada has been involved in myriad US war crimes, if not actively then often behind the scenes. 

Canada should not be involved in WAR CRIMES AND TERRORISM!

[capricorn]

11 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yes but what's most noticable is that you only whine about it when you perceive anything left of the conservatives doing it.

How would you know that I didn't whine about it back when Conservatives did it? Did you research my past posts? If not STFU about it.

[eyeball]

37 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

If true then send them to US why the hell Canada should pay a price whenever there is instability or war somewhere on this planet!!!!!!.

Well, you were warned a decade and a half ago that standing around with our thumbs up our butts while our allies diddled smaller weaker countries would come back to haunt us.

Why weren't you paying attention? Having too much fun laughing and rolling your eyes at all the silly lefties who were warning you would be my guess.

[eyeball]

24 minutes ago, capricorn said:

How would you know that I didn't whine about it back when Conservatives did it? Did you research my past posts? If not STFU about it.

I inferred as much from your opening post in this thread.

Besides, Mulroney was a lefty as evidenced by the qualifier Progressive in his party's name.

[capricorn]

9 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Well, you were warned a decade and a half ago that standing around with our thumbs up our butts while our allies diddled smaller weaker countries would come back to haunt us.

You like to shoot off your mouth without ever providing anything to back up your pearls of wisdom. How about you provide proof that "we" were warned101/2 years ago about something you know but you won't share.

[hot enough]

11 minutes ago, capricorn said:

You like to shoot off your mouth without ever providing anything to back up your pearls of wisdom. How about you provide proof that "we" were warned101/2 years ago about something you know but you won't share.

Try honesty for once in your life, capricorn, you might like it. 

[Argus]

2 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

So they speak French. That makes them compatible? Just look how people live in Haiti and how unsafe the country is. There is an almost civil war there for years.

Decades. Crime and violence, political or otherwise, has been intertwined with the Haitian culture for generations.

[Argus]

12 minutes ago, capricorn said:

You like to shoot off your mouth without ever providing anything to back up your pearls of wisdom. How about you provide proof that "we" were warned101/2 years ago about something you know but you won't share.

Oh Christ don't get them started or we'll have another 9/11 thread. Just recognize some people are not stable and ignore them.

[Argus]

1 hour ago, GostHacked said:

Well, when the quake hit Haiti, we should have helped, but instead there was a lot of focus on a corrupt government instead of helping the people of Haiti.

You help people through their government. It's not our country. We don't know it or understand it or its peoples. Nor do we have any desire to rule the place.

[capricorn]

2 minutes ago, Argus said:

Decades. Crime and violence, political or otherwise, has been intertwined with the Haitian culture for generations.

Coming to Canada en masse to be intertwined with our culture.

[betsy]

"Trudeau is giving mixed messages," says one of the news channels.  His "welcome mat" is confusing would-be applicants,  and causing the mass exodus of refugees to Canada.

Haitians fleeing the USA, are under the false impression that everyone is welcome.  They don't know that Canada had already started deporting Haitians who were temporary refugees (Earthquake) about 2 years ago.

In the meantime, we'll have to house everyone that comes here.........while they go about the long process of applying as refugees.  Imagine the monumental cost that comes with that!  From board and lodgings, to health care etc..,  Can they work while they apply?  If not, do they get welfare?

More likely, screening and vetting will be lax just so to be able to  keep up!

 

The Liberals are really saddling us with future catastrophic problems!

 

Edited August 6, 2017 by betsy

[betsy]

20 hours ago, capricorn said:

There are so many different terms used in the media it's not easy determining which are accurate. Even Trudeau uses different terminology.

As I understand, the US will not be renewing the visas for Haitians to remain in the US and they refuse to return to Haiti. Many of them are now claiming they will be persecuted if they return to Haiti, hoping for some sympathy from Canadian officials.

I read Montreal was at capacity in July in terms of facilities to receive asylum seekers/refugee claimants, hence the need use the Big O to house them.

As you and scribblet point out, Trudeau and the Liberals hope their largess toward these people will earn them future votes. Looks to me this objective is not going according to plan.

Montreal prides itself as a sanctuary.  Let them handle all the illegals!  Just don't have us non-Montrealers pay for their stupidity.