Refugee crisis escalating

[hot enough]

13 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

You can't handle the facts....or your complicit dependence on them.

Yes, I can. It is you that tries to divert away from US deep evil. You know that no country comes close to the evil done by the USA, your genocidal, war criminal, terrorist, lying "nation", born of terrorism and genocide, both of which you all have perfected thru long practice. 

Did you ever get to play gook hockey, slash off women's breasts, murder children?

Edited August 7, 2017 by hot enough

[capricorn]

1 hour ago, betsy said:

Without the USA.....the landscape across the world would be very different.  Maybe, there wouldn't be any democracy at all.

Right now we enjoy a military...the US military. Without the USA and its military we would not be able to defend our homeland ourselves.

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1 hour ago, PIK said:

Thank god for USA. Just imagine if it was not them in charge, all the idiots here would not have a safe forum to spout off thier nutty conspiracy theories.It is so sad that there are people here that think the world did not start till GW was in power.

Yeah, that's exactly what all the more than 70 countries illegally invaded by the USA think too. Thank god for carpet bombing us, for slaughtering our children, for poisoning our children and our environment, for supplying our kids with cluster bombs to play with, for raping our sons and daughters, for torturing our kith and kin, for stealing our wealth. 

How come the USA isn't at all like any of the bullshit movies that you have been brainwashed by, PIK?

[hot enough]

25 minutes ago, capricorn said:

Right now we enjoy a military...the US military. Without the USA and its military we would not be able to defend our homeland ourselves.

More nutty propaganda, capricorn. Dog almighty, you are one gullible, brainwashed sheep. There has never been anyone, ever, who wanted to or could have attacked us. Use your brain for once. Have we been threatened by Nicaragua, Vietnam, Korea, Iran, Guatemala, Chile, Brazil, Mexico, Cuba, Haiti, ..., all the poor third world countries the US has invaded and raped and pillaged?

Edited August 7, 2017 by hot enough

[capricorn]

29 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Prove that you whined about it.

Do I ask you to research your stuff? No and I would not. You raised the matter that Conservatives did it too so do your own research. In any case, you're so confrontational and unyielding in your ideology I find you unpleasant in most of your exchanges.

[Omni]

13 minutes ago, hot enough said:

There has never been anyone, ever, who wanted to or could have attacked us. 

How about the Japanese in WWII. Use your brain for once.

[hot enough]

16 minutes ago, capricorn said:

Do I ask you to research your stuff? No and I would not. You raised the matter that Conservatives did it too so do your own research. In any case, you're so confrontational and unyielding in your ideology I find you unpleasant in most of your exchanges.

capricorn planning her escape.

[hot enough]

9 minutes ago, Omni said:

How about the Japanese in WWII. Use your brain for once.

The Japanese did not attack Canada. Use your brain for once. And stop your Omni fabricating. 

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Omni said:

How about the Japanese in WWII. Use your brain for once.

I'm sure the Germans in WWII would have gotten around to it eventually, had they not been stopped elsewhere.  The idea that a country does not need defences simply puts the onus on others.

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[Omni]

3 minutes ago, hot enough said:

The Japanese did not attack Canada. Use your brain for once. And stop your Omni fabricating. 

Use your "brain" and go google up a place called Estevan Point.

[hot enough]

17 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I'm sure the Germans in WWII would have gotten around to it eventually, had they not been stopped elsewhere. 

Just as the British got around to invading other countries to steal their wealth. 

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The idea that a country does not need defences simply puts the onus on others.

The notion that we need defences as portrayed by the USA is only because the USA is a war mongering "nation", a war criminal nation, a terrorist nation that steals from the poor. You all know this yet you still defend such evil. 

Edited August 7, 2017 by hot enough

[Hal 9000]

HE notwithstanding, I think we can all agree that we benefit from the US military and our proximity to that country.  

[hot enough]

11 minutes ago, Omni said:

Use your "brain" and go google up a place called Estevan Point.

More Omni fabrications. 

[hot enough]

8 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

HE notwithstanding, I think we can all agree that we benefit from the US military and our proximity to that country.  

Of course you do. The question is, do you want to benefit from the war crimes, the terrorism, the crimes against humanity of a country that is the equal/worse than the Nazis, just because it is convenient/comfortable for you to do so?

What kind of a people are comfortable with the slaughter of tens of millions?

[Hal 9000]

Just now, hot enough said:

Of course you do. The question is, do you want to benefit from the war crimes, the terrorism, the crimes against humanity of a country that is the equal/worse than the Nazis, just because it is convenient/comfortable for you to do so?

What kind of a people are comfortable with the slaughter of tens of millions?

We all have to pick a side to be on, so yeah, I'm comfortable with the side I've chosen.  

[taxme]

5 hours ago, hot enough said:

The US doesn't do war, they do illegal invasions, they have slaughtered tens of millions. They have done their genocides in as brutal a fashion as anyone in the world. The Indonesian genocide saw machetes dismembering people alive, people beheaded with piano wire, one US proxy claimed to have beheaded 1000 people with piano wire, bragged about it. US State Department officials provided death lists and checked off names as they were done in. The US trained and supported butchers brag about their deeds openly and to this day. They say how they loved to watch US gangster movies to discover new, barbaric ways to slaughter people, all with the full support of the USA. 

Was it not barbaric, Betsy, to plan the genocide against the Iraqi people, where the US knew full well, discussed ahead of time, how destroying the water treatment plants would see possibly millions die? 

And you come out with this goofy, totally unsubstantiated notion that I support these actions in other countries. Pure Betsy piffle, a "christian" bearing false witness. The US supports these actions around the world by ALWAYS installing and supporting vicious right wing dictatorships. 

And those crimes were not done by the ordinary American. Those kinds of crimes you mentioned above are being committed by scumbags that control America, and who are behind making America look not so great. If you have not figured that one out yet then there is no hope for you.  

[Omni]

15 minutes ago, hot enough said:

More Omni fabrications. 

Look it up before you continue to make a further fool of yourself.

[jacee]

17 minutes ago, Omni said:

Use your "brain" and go google up a place called Estevan Point.

NEVER heard of that before!

Probably because they didn't hit a thing.

 

[hot enough]

16 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

We all have to pick a side to be on, so yeah, I'm comfortable with the side I've chosen.  

That's the big lie, that's the huge moral conundrum. What you are saying is that "yeah, had the Germans won, I would be totally comfortable with hunting down any Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, and other Nazi deemed undesirables and shipping them off to Death Camps". 

You believe that the US government did 911 and you are comfortable with that? Is that why you offer such tepid involvement?

[Omni]

Just now, jacee said:

NEVER heard of that before!

Probably because they didn't hit a thing.

 

They tried to shell the lighthouse but missed. Maybe there was a little too much Saki consumption on the sub that night.

[hot enough]

14 minutes ago, taxme said:

And those crimes were not done by the ordinary American. Those kinds of crimes you mentioned above are being committed by scumbags that control America, and who are behind making America look not so great. If you have not figured that one out yet then there is no hope for you.  

They have always been supported by large percentages of Americans. The US couldn't be a war mongering country without war mongering citizens. 

And yes, US troops did a lot of those crimes until the US clued in to hiring proxy butchers to do the work for them. 

America is full of scumbags that make "America look not so great". There's Bush, Bush, Reagan, Clinton, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Bolton, Powell, the US scuzzbag media masquerading as news media, all the CIA, the FBI, the department officials, ... .

[Argus]

1 hour ago, jacee said:

Sometimes evil masquerades as 'good' to trick gullible people.

The destruction of Syria by the USA and allies is pure greed, pure evil.

So was Iraq.

So was Afghanistan.

The US didn't destroy any of those places. Their own people did. Why is it the far left ALWAYS exempts locals from any responsibility, and always tries to blame the West?

1 hour ago, jacee said:

Anywhere in the world where there is conflict, you can bet the US corporatocracy is doing its evil work to take control of the government and its finances, and the country's resources.

Really? Funny how most of the world doesn't do what the US wants then. Funny how most of the third world goes against American interests and votes against them in the UN. If you want to see evil and ruthless corporatations at work look at what Chinese government corporations are doing throughout the third world. But of course, you won't.

1 hour ago, jacee said:

John Perkins, author of 'Economic Hitman' calls it 

"mutant ... viral ... predatory ... capitalism"

It is US based, and it is evil.

 

Sebastian Mallaby, economics columnist of the Washington Post, reacted sharply to Perkins' book:^[4] describing him as "a conspiracy theorist, a vainglorious peddler of nonsense,  According to Wikipedia. He says the NSA is the one organizing world economic domination but the NSA is a cryptographic intelligence gathering/counter intelligence organization and has no involvement in economics. There's no evidence to support any of his claims.

What is not arguable is that the world is richer now, there are fewer people in poverty, than at any time in history, and there is a direct correlation between that and the rise of capitalism.

[hot enough]

13 minutes ago, Omni said:

They tried to shell the lighthouse but missed. Maybe there was a little too much Saki consumption on the sub that night.

Omni steps right up to show us it was Omni fabricating/prevaricating again. 

[bush_cheney2004]

3 minutes ago, hot enough said:

They have always been supported by large percentages of Americans.

 

...and millions upon millions of immigrants...legal and illegal...from all over the world.

USA is #1 for immigrants don'tcha know ?

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, hot enough said:

Omni steps right up to show us it was Omni fabricating/prevaricating again. 

It says right on the Wikipedia page that it happened.  Of course, it doesn't mention the theory that no Japanese were actually involved in the shelling, or explain the nanothermite found in the lighthouse afterwards.  The plot thickens...

Edit> It must have been such a relief for the the submarine crew involved.  While all their mates were involved in a real war, with depth charges and other nasty things, they get to go shell Vancouver Island.  I bet they took their time...

Edited August 7, 2017 by bcsapper