The U.S. Launched 59 Cruise Missiles against an airfield in Syria .

taxme · April 12, 2017

On 4/7/2017 at 11:36 AM, -1=e^ipi said:

How do we know Assad did the gas attack and not the 'moderate rebels'?
Where is the evidence?

On 4/7/2017 at 0:07 PM, -1=e^ipi said:

Yep. ISIS is losing ground. Assad is winning in Syria. So after years of fighting, Assad is suddenly going to use chemical weapons to give the USA and other countries a reason to intervene?

Or maybe ISIS did it cause then they use the West to fight Assad so that they can fill the power vacuum.

I agree, it doesn't make sense.

When it comes to American policy, nothing ever makes any sense. The only thing that makes sense to America is how can we keep wars going so that we can make more money. Bloody sad when all these warmongering corporations can think about is wanting to create more havoc and chaos, and the maiming and killing of innocent people, all for a fist full of dollars. Those scum bags would like to get a WW3 going if they could. And while they can run and hide in their thick walled bunkers, we the people get to be bombed. Wow, what a deal for them, eh?

Assad is innocent alright. Why would Assad want to destroy any chance of taking out ISIS? Lucky for Syria, Russia has his back. Why Trump did this or who told him to do this is something we will never learn. I think his zionist son-in-law Kushner was behind getting Trump to do this bombing. Some on the internet are even saying and are convinced that Kushner is the real president of the USA. Hey, you never know.

taxme · April 12, 2017

On 4/7/2017 at 11:58 AM, capricorn said:

Assad is a madman. He doesn't need incentive to kill his own people. The Syrian army is there to carry out the madman's orders lest they suffer the same fate as those he executed.

Why does a madman wait to do anything. Your guess is as good as mine. I would say that Assad knew that Russia had his back and would be there to help him out of the pickle they caused by killing civilians.

Assad is not a madman. The zionist warmongering elite are the madmen. They may have been behind this so-called chemical attack that was supposed to have been done by Assad. Why do people still believe the lies of the American media and pretty much most of it's phony lying politicians. America needs wars to survive.

Michael Hardner · April 12, 2017

2 hours ago, taxme said:

The zionist warmongering elite are the madmen.

Your scapegoating of this incident to Jews is utterly baseless. Which of Rupert Murdoch, Time-Warner, Trump are the shadowy 'Zionists' behind this ? Your assessment of world events seems to be unnaturally placed as blame upon the Jewish people. When you take into consideration Spicer's holocaust denial, which you described as 'fun and games', it's pretty clear to me that you are intent on framing all world events in a certain hue that is disingenuous, false, disproven...

Really there is nothing we can do about your opinion, except pointing out that your rhetoric and point of view are inconsistent but for the anti-Semitic undertones.

kactus · April 12, 2017

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Your scapegoating of this incident to Jews is utterly baseless. Which of Rupert Murdoch, Time-Warner, Trump are the shadowy 'Zionists' behind this ? Your assessment of world events seems to be unnaturally placed as blame upon the Jewish people. When you take into consideration Spicer's holocaust denial, which you described as 'fun and games', it's pretty clear to me that you are intent on framing all world events in a certain hue that is disingenuous, false, disproven...

Really there is nothing we can do about your opinion, except pointing out that your rhetoric and point of view are inconsistent but for the anti-Semitic undertones.

Same can be said when certain groups who blame everything scapegoating every incident to Iranians, Turks, Arabs etc.....Whilst it is wrong to make a mockery of historical events I think there is just too much importance attached to one event (holocaust) whilst ignoring many mini holocausts happening right now!

You have seen the blanket statements some make on an entire country with no basis. What I have seen here is a bunch of members colluding together defending an argument to an irrational point with many biases and the occasional interjection by moderators calling for thread drift.....

I guess the question I am getting at is why does that moral judgement work for some like a one way street?

Edited April 12, 2017 by kactus

GostHacked · April 12, 2017

11 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

You're free to think Canada gave Iraq nerve gas...or the USA...or Israel...etc. Those folks are too stupid to make these things without our assistance...am I right???

Right, let's throw some more evidence out there to back my assertions.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-153210/Rumsfeld-helped-Iraq-chemical-weapons.html

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As an envoy from President Reagan 19 years ago, he had a secret meeting with the Iraqi dictator and arranged enormous military assistance for his war with Iran.

The CIA had already warned that Iraq was using chemical weapons almost daily. But Mr Rumsfeld, at the time a successful executive in the pharmaceutical industry, still made it possible for Saddam to buy supplies from American firms.

They included viruses such as anthrax and bubonic plague, according to the Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/iraq/stories/wartech091790.htm

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Some of those weapons are already available and likely to be used by Iraq in any military showdown with U.S. forces. The bleak irony is that much of the technology and expertise that created those weapons was bought by Iraq in the West, sometimes by deception but often with the silent acquiescence of Western governments. Those sales continued even after Saddam's regime was accused of using chemical weapons against Iran and Iraq's own Kurdish citizens.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-and-iraq-go-way-back/

I'll just pose this link as to not be accused of 'selective quoting' by certain MLW members.

GostHacked · April 12, 2017

It's only been 6 years since the start of this proxy war and Assad is still in power. Talk about being ineffectual. How many times has the red line been crossed? What changes this time to require action?

What a joke this is.

DogOnPorch · April 12, 2017

1 hour ago, GostHacked said:

Right, let's throw some more evidence out there to back my assertions.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-153210/Rumsfeld-helped-Iraq-chemical-weapons.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/iraq/stories/wartech091790.htm

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-and-iraq-go-way-back/

I'll just pose this link as to not be accused of 'selective quoting' by certain MLW members.

So GH will continue with the USA supplied Saddam's nerve gas fantasy. Even though his expert articles do not support this assertion...

Were any Arab/Muslim countries responsible for Saddam having nerve gas or was it just all the USA in your opinion?...the USA which had given-up chemical weapons in the late 1960s under Nixon...how about the Russians? Both Iraq and Syria were Soviet client states.

Did the Americans save some with the idea of giving them to Saddam 15-30 years down the road??

Edited April 12, 2017 by DogOnPorch

kactus · April 12, 2017

Typical argument....Just because Russians and other Arab countries may have supplied Iraq with chemicals it's ok for US...Those handshakes between Saddam and Rumpy in eighties are not just a publicity stunt.....One minute Saddam is the darling of the West for gassing Iranian Kurds in Halabja with western supplied chemicals next he becomes the bad boy....How quickly we forget....

I guess the US does not need to be reminded about "Chemical Ali" legacy of Reagan....The hypocrites..,,

Edited April 12, 2017 by kactus

DogOnPorch · April 12, 2017

48 minutes ago, kactus said:

Typical argument....Just because Russians and other Arab countries may have supplied Iraq with chemicals it's ok for US...Those handshakes between Saddam and Rumpy in eighties are not just a publicity stunt.....One minute Saddam is the darling of the West for gassing Iranian Kurds in Halabja with western supplied chemicals next he becomes the bad boy....How quickly we forget....

I guess the US does not need to be reminded about "Chemical Ali" legacy of Reagan....The hypocrites..,,

The US has never supplied anything for nerve agent production to Iraq or Syria. You'll have to deal with the truth one day. Now, I've asked 'what is thiodiglycol' and none of you experts can tell me what it is...because the US DID supply Saddam with quantities of that restricted chemical.

Any clue what it is used for? Any?

C'mon experts...

Edited April 12, 2017 by DogOnPorch

eyeball · April 12, 2017

2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

The US has never supplied anything for nerve agent production to Iraq or Syria.

Yes it has.

DogOnPorch · April 12, 2017

Just now, eyeball said:

Yes it has.

No it has not.

kactus · April 12, 2017

3 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

The US has never supplied anything for nerve agent production to Iraq or Syria. You'll have to deal with the truth one day. Now, I've asked 'what is thiodiglycol' and none of you experts can tell me what it is...because the US DID supply Saddam with quantities of that restricted chemical.

Any clue what it is used for? Any?

C'mon experts...

So?

kactus · April 12, 2017

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Yes it has.

There is no hope in trying to convince him...Evidence is there....The poor people who Saddam Hussein used those chemicals on were sadly at the receiving end and nothing is gonna change that fact.

eyeball · April 12, 2017

I'm not trying to convince DOP, I'm simply providing a fact check. You get banned for calling people liars around here so...

taxme · April 12, 2017

12 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Your scapegoating of this incident to Jews is utterly baseless. Which of Rupert Murdoch, Time-Warner, Trump are the shadowy 'Zionists' behind this ? Your assessment of world events seems to be unnaturally placed as blame upon the Jewish people. When you take into consideration Spicer's holocaust denial, which you described as 'fun and games', it's pretty clear to me that you are intent on framing all world events in a certain hue that is disingenuous, false, disproven...

Really there is nothing we can do about your opinion, except pointing out that your rhetoric and point of view are inconsistent but for the anti-Semitic undertones.

The internet is full of many websites that have questioned or challenged the holocaust event. And what is wrong with that? Is the holocaust suppose to be some kind of taboo or sacred cow subject that must never be discussed. I could question just about any historical event in history, and would never be attacked as much as questioning the holocaust. I am not blaming all the world's problems on the Jews. Where do you get this from? Zionists are not suppose to be real Jews anyway according to many websites.

IHR.org is a great website for wanting to discuss the holocaust. It never hurts to get to know the other side of the story. Having an open mind is such a beautiful.thing. And who can really say that the Hollywood version of the Holocaust is the real story, a story that has been told to us all for many decades now? I am only questioning like so many others have. I see no problem with it. Politics is all just fun and games being played by our fearless leaders, and all at we the peoples expense. Why must any historical event be off topic?

taxme · April 12, 2017

2 hours ago, kactus said:

There is no hope in trying to convince him...Evidence is there....The poor people who Saddam Hussein used those chemicals on were sadly at the receiving end and nothing is gonna change that fact.

Another false flag of Saddam dumping chemicals on his people. Apparently, Saddam wanted to start using Euros and get rid of the dollar for his oil. This was not going to be allowed by the Zio banksters, and so Saddam had to go. As long as people keep listening too and believing what the main scream zio liberal media has to say as gospel, and not bother to check out the other side of the story, then no one will end up really knowing anything at all.

Michael Hardner · April 12, 2017

Taxme, we need to take this to a relevant thread:

Argus · April 13, 2017

17 hours ago, taxme said:

Assad is not a madman.

So you approve of him slaughtering people the way he is, dropping barrel bombs on civilians, torturing and executing prisoners and their family, using chemical weapons against people? This is something you personally approve of?

Argus · April 13, 2017

2 hours ago, taxme said:

IHR.org is a great website for wanting to discuss the holocaust. It never hurts to get to know the other side of the story. Having an open mind is such a beautiful.thing.

Having an empty mind is not so beautiful. But as for open minded, the guy who used to publish that magazine, Mark Weber, finally admitted that the Germans murdered millions of Jews. Did you know that? And he stopped publishing Holocaust denial stories. I mean, he still hates Jews, of course. He doesn't have THAT open a mind. But he focuses on condemning them in other ways rather than Holocaust denial.

Michael Hardner · April 13, 2017

Sorry, I took that topic to another thread. Please take it there.

Goddess · April 13, 2017

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/syrias-assad-says-chemical-attack-100-percent-fabrication/ar-BBzOgoe?li=AAggNb9

Assad is saying there was NO gas attack....it's all fabricated by the media. :wacko:

Edited April 13, 2017 by Goddess

DogOnPorch · April 13, 2017

28 minutes ago, Goddess said:

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/syrias-assad-says-chemical-attack-100-percent-fabrication/ar-BBzOgoe?li=AAggNb9

Assad is saying there was NO gas attack....it's all fabricated by the media.

I, too, have issues with the veracity of this event. Sarin poisoning isn't just like mixing Ammonia and Bleach and succumbing to the vapors...the rescuers would have been affected since they were not wearing any CBW gear....and they apparently were not.

DogOnPorch · April 13, 2017

The only "cure" for sarin...and the antidote is nearly as bad as the nerve agent.

GostHacked · April 16, 2017

So if Syria uses weapons the reaction is to destroy more stuff by launching missiles at Syria. So when can I expect the bombs to fly here??

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/aleppo-syria-bus-convoy-explosion-1.4072206

hot enough · April 17, 2017

On 4/7/2017 at 0:53 PM, Army Guy said:

Chemical wpns are classified as wpns of mass destruction....And the US coalition found thousands of chemical devices, mass production sites.....

That is laughable. It's one thing to try and lamely defend Afghanistan as not a war crime, which it is, but Iraq.