Ouch !!! Russian ambassador have been assassinated in Turkiye

kactus · December 20, 2016

This is taking place live

Fettullah Gülen movement has denied involvement...Allegedly....

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/12/19/500622/turkey-russia-envoy-putin-erdogan

Edited December 20, 2016 by kactus

betsy · December 20, 2016

9 hours ago, Smallc said:

Putin - right wing hero.

A whole lot better than the left-wing hero whose main objective is to attend all Gay Pride parades. :lol:

betsy · December 20, 2016

1 hour ago, Altai said:

Find another video from another point of view.

How many angles do you want to see the Russian Ambassador being murdered?

Smallc · December 20, 2016

47 minutes ago, betsy said:

A whole lot better than the left-wing hero whose main objective is to attend all Gay Pride parades.

I support that wholeheartedly.

Wilber · December 20, 2016

19 hours ago, Altai said:

Yes this is how they wash brains with these "logical" stories and hide the main criminals. Read the OP, its almost proven that done by CIA.

Logic, the mortal enemy of false news. Indira Gandhi was murdered by her own bodyguard for basically the same reasons.

No such thing as "almost proven".

Topaz · December 20, 2016

When I heard that the Russian had been shot, I thought boy Obama works fast! The news was pointing more to terrorists but I heard Putin said that IF HE find out Turkey had anything to do with it, he going to wipe Turkey off the face of the earth and if NATO was to get involve he'll take them on too!

Altai · December 20, 2016

Now US have a serious problem. Russian State TV said that the assassination is done by FETO. Now everyone to the shelters, please dont panic and give priority for women and children Dont take your pets with you, we have limited amount of food and oxygen.

Edited December 20, 2016 by Altai

Wilber · December 20, 2016

6 minutes ago, Topaz said:

When I heard that the Russian had been shot, I thought boy Obama works fast! The news was pointing more to terrorists but I heard Putin said that IF HE find out Turkey had anything to do with it, he going to wipe Turkey off the face of the earth and if NATO was to get involve he'll take them on too!

Answer me one simple question that you should be asking yourself. What does the US or Obama have to gain from this?

DogOnPorch · December 20, 2016

Russia is the ENEMY...right?

Wilber · December 20, 2016

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

Russia is the ENEMY...right?

Maybe but after doing very little to stop Russian interference in this region, Obama supposedly wants to start WW3 one month before he leaves office. Geez Louise, how moronic can people be?

Topaz · December 20, 2016

Wilber, the US usually uses the term "in our interest" which can be anything,why they do anything BUT if the US wouldn't gain anything then why did Obama make a big deal and threaten to seek revenge??

Wilber · December 20, 2016

27 minutes ago, Topaz said:

Wilber, the US usually uses the term "in our interest" which can be anything,why they do anything BUT if the US wouldn't gain anything then why did Obama make a big deal and threaten to seek revenge??

He was telling Putin personally that the US would respond to Russian interference in its elections. Where do you get that he "threatened revenge"? What do you think a US president should do in such a situation, just let it pass? It certainly doesn't mean they are declaring open season on Russian diplomats and certainly not a situation that would risk an all out war between NATO and Russia. As a NATO member, we would be involved in any such war. Obama had eight years to pick a fight with Russia, four of them he had your favourite devil incarnate, war monger Hillary as his Secretary of State. How come it never happened? Why now? Just ask yourself the simple questions.

Topaz · December 21, 2016

Wilber, first of all there is no proof that Russia did anything Obama said he did. I was listening to a former CIA agent on the weekend and HE said there is no proof because Russia didn't do anything, The Chinese has hacked the US system months before but Russia hasn't and they are using the same scam as the they did with Hussein to start a war, Haven't enough Americans and others died over the NATO/US INTEREST???

Wilber · December 21, 2016

4 minutes ago, Topaz said:

Wilber, first of all there is no proof that Russia did anything Obama said he did. I was listening to a former CIA agent on the weekend and HE said there is no proof because Russia didn't do anything, The Chinese has hacked the US system months before but Russia hasn't and they are using the same scam as the they did with Hussein to start a war, Haven't enough Americans and others died over the NATO/US INTEREST???

Dream on Topaz. The only reason the Cold War remained cold was the existence of NATO. In 1945 when an American diplomat remarked to Stalin how grateful he must be to see Russian troops in Berlin, he replied "Tsar Alexander reached Paris".

Benz · December 21, 2016

The US are very mad at this Russia-Turkiye friendship. But this assassination in that context is not the way they use to proceed. It would be to easy for their enemies to track down a link with them. I do not think USA has something to do, even if it could have serve their interests, but it is not impossible. The first place I would look at, is a religious group that seek more power either in Syria or in Turkey. Killing a Russian ambassador in Turkey can be a good way to destabilize Erdogan. The kind of very simple reasonning extremists might think but, I doubt Putin will fall for it. The attempt might also have the goal to make Russia look vulnerable but, they did not target the population like the terrorists use to do. The target is political and it is clear that the Russian authority is targetted more than its population. Not exactly the same kind of terror the extremists are doing recently.

I remain open on all possibilities as for who sponsored that crime. USA, Islamists, Turkey opposition, even Russia. To me, it looks like one sacrificed its Bishop to take a Pawn on a chess game.

kactus · December 21, 2016

3 hours ago, Benz said:

The US are very mad at this Russia-Turkiye friendship. But this assassination in that context is not the way they use to proceed. It would be to easy for their enemies to track down a link with them. I do not think USA has something to do, even if it could have serve their interests, but it is not impossible. The first place I would look at, is a religious group that seek more power either in Syria or in Turkey. Killing a Russian ambassador in Turkey can be a good way to destabilize Erdogan. The kind of very simple reasonning extremists might think but, I doubt Putin will fall for it. The attempt might also have the goal to make Russia look vulnerable but, they did not target the population like the terrorists use to do. The target is political and it is clear that the Russian authority is targetted more than its population. Not exactly the same kind of terror the extremists are doing recently.

I remain open on all possibilities as for who sponsored that crime. USA, Islamists, Turkey opposition, even Russia. To me, it looks like one sacrificed its Bishop to take a Pawn on a chess game.

Woudn't this be considered an act of terrorism against another state?

Moonlight Graham · December 21, 2016

You'd think it wouldn't be such a headache to get some cheap oil into my car.

Altai · December 21, 2016

Anglo - Saksons keeps behave like abandoned psychopatic lover.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/turkey-and-russias-marriage-of-convenience-5vz28h0zw

Benz · December 22, 2016

6 hours ago, kactus said:

Woudn't this be considered an act of terrorism against another state?

Yes. Of course. But my point is, usually, the islamic terrorists are targetting innocent people that can be anyone to create a feeling of terror. This time the target was an ambassador. Not anyone can be an ambassador. Maybe I am wrong, but I think this homicide is more planned than it looks like.

Ash74 · December 22, 2016

On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Topaz said:

Wilber, the US usually uses the term "in our interest" which can be anything,why they do anything BUT if the US wouldn't gain anything then why did Obama make a big deal and threaten to seek revenge??

I don't see the benefit in less somebody stupid thought this would move the Russians away from Turkey. Erdogan is desperate for power and will do anything to please mother Russia right now.

He seems to have ambitions to recreate the Ottoman Empire and is desperate for allies that might let him.

http://www.politico.eu/article/recep-tayyip-erdogan-pursues-his-plan-for-even-greater-power-turkish-president-akp/

Altai · December 22, 2016

Now its 100% that this event is done by US tool FETO but officials thinks that its not planned by US but looks like planned by Britain but you wont hear anything about Britain.

Michael Hardner · December 22, 2016

3 hours ago, Altai said:

Now its 100% that this event is done by US tool FETO but officials thinks that its not planned by US but looks like planned by Britain but you wont hear anything about Britain.

Do you have a cite for this claim ?

Altai · December 22, 2016

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Do you have a cite for this claim ?

What does cite mean ? If it mean "quote", for the US part, I dont think we need to quote someones to see such a clear event. For the Britain part, no I cant reveal my source but I can give some more details. First of all, officials thinks that there is no logical reason for US to plan such an assassin, this event is against the interests of US in many ways. But its quite logical when we look at the event from Britain side, they would like to plan such a thing to put the US in a difficult situation in front of Turkiye and Russia.

Edited December 22, 2016 by Altai

Michael Hardner · December 22, 2016

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8 minutes ago, Altai said:

What does cite mean ? If it mean "quote", for the US part, I dont think we need to quote someones to see such a clear event. For the Britain part, no I cant reveal my source but I can give some more details. First of all, officials thinks that there is no logical reason for US to plan such an assassin, this event is against the interests of US in many ways. But its quite logical when we look at the event from Britain side, they would like to plan such a thing to put the US in a difficult situation in front of Turkiye and Russia.

It is not clear to me. Are these just your own ideas or do you have a link where you read this?

Altai · December 22, 2016

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

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It is not clear to me. Are these just your own ideas or do you have a link where you read this?

You can easily find links if you are another TV zombie who is not able to use his thinking power. Turkish president and Russians said its done by FETO. Read the OP, I ve posted many informations there. After all if you still not able to understand, please close the topic or delete the posts, thats what you do best.