eyeball Posted December 31, 2016 Report Posted December 31, 2016 I pointed out that Putin had a new boi in Washington weeks ago. I've been predicting a right wing US/Russian Co- Dominiun for years now. A plutocratic oligarchy. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
blueblood Posted December 31, 2016 Report Posted December 31, 2016 14 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Again with the outright falsehoods. It was not just California and New England, Clinton got won the popular vote in 20 states plus DC. Why do the alt right always have to lie in order to make a point, why can't they stick to the truth? Why does the alt left lie? New England along with the west coast is about 20 states. God forbid there's some estimating. Trump won the popular vote in more states! Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 31, 2016 Author Report Posted December 31, 2016 Relevance to this topic ? Did Putin cause Democrats to be in disarray ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted December 31, 2016 Report Posted December 31, 2016 No, America did. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 31, 2016 Author Report Posted December 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: No, America did. Good.....America has more choices than Canada....in elections, and international relations. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
?Impact Posted December 31, 2016 Report Posted December 31, 2016 7 minutes ago, blueblood said: Why does the alt left lie? New England along with the west coast is about 20 states. God forbid there's some estimating. Trump won the popular vote in more states! New England is about 5 states (those east of New York), but labeling it as New England is an attempt to make it sound like one. It is pathetic that the alt-right try to confuse the issue by pretending that Clinton only won 2 out of 50 when in fact she won 21 out of 51. If you stick to the facts then I would not have a problem, when you present them as fabrications it becomes an issue. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 31, 2016 Author Report Posted December 31, 2016 No matter how you count it....Hillary Clinton lost the election. Democrats are in disarray..... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
blueblood Posted December 31, 2016 Report Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ?Impact said: New England is about 5 states (those east of New York), but labeling it as New England is an attempt to make it sound like one. It is pathetic that the alt-right try to confuse the issue by pretending that Clinton only won 2 out of 50 when in fact she won 21 out of 51. If you stick to the facts then I would not have a problem, when you present them as fabrications it becomes an issue. I put New England with New York for the sake of brevity. If you want to split hairs fine. Either way 21 out of 51 wasn't enough. The areas that voted for her were the northeast, the west coast, Colorado New Mexico, Illinois and Minnesota - that's a lot of alphabet soup to get the point across many more states voted for trump this time and many more states voted for Obama twice previously Edited December 31, 2016 by blueblood Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Omni Posted December 31, 2016 Report Posted December 31, 2016 16 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Relevance to this topic ? Did Putin cause Democrats to be in disarray ? Judging by his wacky 3 am tweets I think we all know who is actually in disarray. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 31, 2016 Author Report Posted December 31, 2016 Just now, Omni said: Judging by his wacky 3 am tweets I think we all know who is actually in disarray. That's OK...Trump likes it that way. That's how he won a presidential election...kept the Senate and House. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
?Impact Posted December 31, 2016 Report Posted December 31, 2016 1 minute ago, Omni said: Judging by his wacky 3 am tweets I think we all know who is actually in disarray. With all the hubbub about Obama's Blackberry, what will become of the twits twitter account in a couple of weeks? Quote
BubberMiley Posted December 31, 2016 Report Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) 19 hours ago, sharkman said: Trump is showing his mettle, however, by using Obama's actions against him and becoming the good cop to Obama's bad cop. It's hilarious watching Trumpsters whine about Obama being heavy-handed with poor Vlad and trying to pretend Trump will be anything but a servile puppet. They are really needing to ignore reality to not see the writing on the wall. Fortunately the GOP hasn't yet succumbed entirely to treason. Edited December 31, 2016 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
blueblood Posted December 31, 2016 Report Posted December 31, 2016 1 minute ago, Omni said: Judging by his wacky 3 am tweets I think we all know who is actually in disarray. His wacky 3 am tweets help get his message out. Nothing like twitter to circumvent the media. Enough people liked his wackiness to win the White House Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Omni Posted December 31, 2016 Report Posted December 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, blueblood said: His wacky 3 am tweets help get his message out. Nothing like twitter to circumvent the media. Enough people liked his wackiness to win the White House So I guess we cam conclude that wacky attracts wacky. Makes sense I guess. Quote
blueblood Posted December 31, 2016 Report Posted December 31, 2016 25 minutes ago, Omni said: So I guess we cam conclude that wacky attracts wacky. Makes sense I guess. The left doesn't get it. How did "the basket of deplorables" go? Talking down to people has the democrats at one of their lowest seat counts in history... Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
BubberMiley Posted December 31, 2016 Report Posted December 31, 2016 1 hour ago, blueblood said: The left doesn't get it. How did "the basket of deplorables" go? Talking down to people has the democrats at one of their lowest seat counts in history... Right-wingers don't talk down to people like the libtards do. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
?Impact Posted December 31, 2016 Report Posted December 31, 2016 8 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: Right-wingers don't talk down to people like the libtards do. Right-wingers are clueless. Quote
blueblood Posted December 31, 2016 Report Posted December 31, 2016 44 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Right-wingers are clueless. Clueless enough to win the senate, house, presidency, state legislatures... clueless enough to know that low tax policies create growth, clueless enough not to be cowed by Hollywood celebrities. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
kimmy Posted December 31, 2016 Report Posted December 31, 2016 2 hours ago, blueblood said: The left doesn't get it. How did "the basket of deplorables" go? Talking down to people has the democrats at one of their lowest seat counts in history... Hillary didn't say all Trump supporters were deplorable. But there's clearly a substantial number of Trump supporters who are pretty... uh, deplorable. The PizzaGaters, the Alex Jones conspiratards, the David Dukes and Stormfronters and Klansmen, the people who deluged Megyn Kelly with death threats because she asked Trump a question he didn't like, the people who intimidated and threatened the press with violence at Trump events, the people who threatened the press with violence for reporting on Trump's various issues, the guy who chanted "Jew S. A! Jew S. A!" at reporters at Trump's rally, the people who've been going around taunting non-white people that they're gonna get deported now that Trump won, ... I think that just about everybody would agree this kind of conduct has been "deplorable" by most peoples' standards. Many Trump supporters seem to be doing their level best to prove that they really are deplorable. Trump won the election... so now we're supposed to treat deplorable conduct with respect? -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
kimmy Posted January 1, 2017 Report Posted January 1, 2017 2 hours ago, BubberMiley said: Right-wingers don't talk down to people like the libtards do. I suspect this went right over his head. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
blueblood Posted January 1, 2017 Report Posted January 1, 2017 32 minutes ago, kimmy said: Hillary didn't say all Trump supporters were deplorable. But there's clearly a substantial number of Trump supporters who are pretty... uh, deplorable. The PizzaGaters, the Alex Jones conspiratards, the David Dukes and Stormfronters and Klansmen, the people who deluged Megyn Kelly with death threats because she asked Trump a question he didn't like, the people who intimidated and threatened the press with violence at Trump events, the people who threatened the press with violence for reporting on Trump's various issues, the guy who chanted "Jew S. A! Jew S. A!" at reporters at Trump's rally, the people who've been going around taunting non-white people that they're gonna get deported now that Trump won, ... I think that just about everybody would agree this kind of conduct has been "deplorable" by most peoples' standards. Many Trump supporters seem to be doing their level best to prove that they really are deplorable. Trump won the election... so now we're supposed to treat deplorable conduct with respect? -k I think your missing the point. What your saying isn't wrong, just something missing. Nobody is arguing that there aren't jack asses supporting either candidate. However when Hillary publicly said that an extremely large proportion of trump supporters are deplorables, a lot of people who are considering change got turned off the democrats. Every person is a potential voter and to write people off like that was a big mistake. plenty of trump supporters were also intimidated in kind. The problem is you didn't hear trump calling potential Hillary supporters deplorable in spite of his many "gems" the problem is if you were a voter who wanted to vote republican because you didn't agree with high regulations high taxes and obamacare to be implied that you are deplorable is a big turn off. I mean Hillary said a substantial amount of trump supporters are deplorable. What's deplorable, being a stormfronter or someone who wants a republican in office? It's a bad message and continued with the democrats and Hollywood knows best that a lot of reasonable people got sick of and voted the bums out. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 1, 2017 Author Report Posted January 1, 2017 "Deplorables" still have the right to vote.....so now Hillary gets to watch the inauguration on TV. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
kimmy Posted January 1, 2017 Report Posted January 1, 2017 24 minutes ago, blueblood said: I mean Hillary said a substantial amount of trump supporters are deplorable. What's deplorable, being a stormfronter or someone who wants a republican in office? She made it clear who she thought was deplorable, and the idea that she was describing all Republican voters was just spin... spin that worked, unfortunately. Good for Kellyanne and good for Breitbart, and good for the Stormfronters and Pizzagaters and the rest of them as well for getting the Republicans to stand up for them I guess. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 1, 2017 Author Report Posted January 1, 2017 Democrats ran a candidate who thought she was owed her turn just for being female....many women didn't buy into that nonsense. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
kimmy Posted January 1, 2017 Report Posted January 1, 2017 Many Americans opted for a completely different brand of nonsense instead. PT Barnum and HL Menken are long dead, but their observations about the American public are more astute than ever. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
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