drummindiver Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 They gave-up Shintoism combined with its extreme Bushido Code. Also a religion.Took two Atomic Bombs and many fire raids, mind-you. Iraqis survived a wee paddlin' themselves, though not of an atomic scale. Btw, over 80% of Japanese still identify as Shinto. Did you know the fire bmbing of Dresden caused more casualties than either atomic bomb? Diplomacy by extremists has a way of making your enemies see things your way doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) Iraqis survived a wee paddlin' themselves, though not of an atomic scale. Btw, over 80% of Japanese still identify as Shinto. Did you know the fire bmbing of Dresden caused more casualties than either atomic bomb? Diplomacy by extremists has a way of making your enemies see things your way doesn't it? Yeah but the divin' into the aircraft carrier part is gone. Edited September 12, 2016 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 LOL, making excuses for the mass murderer George Bush. What kind of chance is it to kill hundred of thousands and then say you can't live peacefully. Bush may be whatever you say, but the Iraqi ppl chose the path they are on now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 The Tokyo Fire Raid was the most destructive of WW2 if I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Yeah but the divin' into the aircraft carrier part is gone. War when it was more personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 The Tokyo Fire Raid was the most destructive of WW2 if I recall. I just looked. Tokyo was 100,000 ppl. Dresden is pegged between 35,000 and 135,000, but because of immigrants, prisoners etc in city at the time they will never be sure. Makes me a little queasy at the magnitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Yes...it was the Bushido Code that inspired all that Samurai like do-or die Banzai Charges. It wasn't, as some think, a product of desperation. The first big Banzai charge was on Guadalcanal...very early in the war in the Pacific. Courage would win-out over technology being the theory. Incorrect. Islam shares similar concepts...being described as a warrior's religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 I just looked. Tokyo was 100,000 ppl. Dresden is pegged between 35,000 and 135,000, but because of immigrants, prisoners etc in city at the time they will never be sure. Makes me a little queasy at the magnitude. Either way...two cities flattened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted September 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) If you were an innocent child, and George Bush rained down bombs in your neighbourhood murdering your family and maiming you for life you would consider him a terrorist. There are thousands of such examples. George Bush is a terrorist - period. Winston Churchill rained bombs down on the innocent. So did Franklin D Roosevelt. So did John Kennedy in Vietnam. I bet that when Canadians were fighting their way through Italy and the Netherlands a lot of innocent civilians died from artillery and tank attacks. Bombs, unfortunately, do not differentiate between good and evil, and sometimes those groups are intermingling. The west at least tries to limit collateral damage to the best of its ability. Terrorists actually SEEK damage to civilians, as much as possible. Therein lies a major difference which you are not acknowledging. Edited September 12, 2016 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted September 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) The Japanese government attacked the US, the Iraqi government didn't. Japan emerged from the war with a lot of support, stability, and rebuilding into a strong nation. Iraq emerged from peace into a disaster zone. Iraq had the same opportunity as Japan, and could have emerged as the most democratic, free and stable country in the middle east. They preferred to slaughter each other and embrace a fanatic opposition to the Americans. Edited September 12, 2016 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 I'm not sure what you guys are getting ... Facetiousness at it's best. Iraq had the same opportunity as Japan, and could have emerged as the most democratic, free and stable country in the middle east. They preferred to slaughter each other and embrace a fanatic opposition to the Americans. Which set of terrorists do you want to back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 I'm not sure what you guys are getting at but it seems that since western foreign policy sometimes is mistaken then it's okay to commit vicious acts of terrorism against westerners. Or if it's not okay well, at least it's not their fault. It's our fault because sometimes western foreign policy initiatives fail. Have I got that right? People do violent things to each other. You don't get to play the victim card when someone fights back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 If you would actually listen, you might get it. Terrorism bad, regardless who commits it. The acts of George Bush are terrorism. No, they're crimes against humanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 The Japanese government attacked the US, the Iraqi government didn't. False...the Iraqi government attacked the USS Stark (FFG-31) in 1987. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Cuz Iraq is the same as Japan in the 1940s.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Cuz Iraq is the same as Japan in the 1940s.... No...cuz Kuwait was the same as Hawaii in 1941. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted September 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 People do violent things to each other. You don't get to play the victim card when someone fights back. So in other words when a Muslim slaughters innocent civilians he or she is fighting back so it's not their fault. Thank you for making the progressive viewpoint so baldly clear. There is no reason to condemn Islamic terrorism because it is entirely justified and the result of or own actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted September 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 So the beloved progressive feminist Justin Trudeau decided to address some Muslims and his team chose a segregated mosque to do so. Not all mosques are segregated, but progressives don't care how Muslims treat women so they didn't bother to find one that isn't. Trudeau brought a few female MPs along, but they entered through a side door, had their heads covered, and bowed, and didn't dare say a word lest they offend the Muslims. Trudeau was at the mosque Monday to mark Eid al-Adha, considered the holiest of feast days for the world’s Muslims. Three female MPs accompanied Trudeau during his brief remarks, though they had to arrive by a side door and stand with their heads covered. They did not address the mosque. And for those progressives who continue to insist that things will change and Muslims will become more 'Canadianized' over time, we have this line: Nomani said that recent surveys indicate about two of every three mosques separate men from women, but that is up from a decade ago when only about half did. http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/national/98feminist+under+attack+attending+gender+segregated+event+ottawa/12191121/story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 So in other words when a Muslim slaughters innocent civilians he or she is fighting back so it's not their fault. Thank you for making the progressive viewpoint so baldly clear. There is no reason to condemn Islamic terrorism because it is entirely justified and the result of or own actions. Kind of interesting when the West supplies and funds 'freedom fighters' that are terrorists in their own right. The funding of the FSA house out of Turkey is 100% terrorism against Syria. But that would be Muslims slaughtering innocent civilians with our help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Kind of interesting when the West supplies and funds 'freedom fighters' that are terrorists in their own right. The funding of the FSA house out of Turkey is 100% terrorism against Syria. But that would be Muslims slaughtering innocent civilians with our help. Yeah, but that's Muslims slaughtering Muslims and since people in the Middle East are nothing but bunch of "illiterate third-world goat herders." So who cares if they're killed, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Yeah, but that's Muslims slaughtering Muslims and since people in the Middle East are nothing but bunch of "illiterate third-world goat herders." So who cares if they're killed, right? I guess you are right, so we should be supplying BOTH sides so they can kill each other off and we can take over the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) Now you're thinking like an alt-right hack. Good job. Edited September 14, 2016 by cybercoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Only a Progressive would think Muslims saved Aristotle being most copies didn't survive the destruction of the Great Library....by Muslims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Only a Progressive would think Muslims saved Aristotle being most copies didn't survive the destruction of the Great Library....by Muslims.Imagine. Civilizations going to war in BC times and destroying each others' monuments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Imagine. Civilizations going to war in BC times and destroying each others' monuments. AD....Islam was not around BC. You really don't have a clue how it unfolded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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