Argus Posted September 5, 2016 Author Report Posted September 5, 2016 You assume wrong, as usual. What I said was that you are entitled to the respect of not being assumed to be a rapist because you are a man and men carry out 99% of all rapes. In the same way, individual Muslims are entitled to the respect of not being assumed to be backwards savages merely because they are Muslim. No, what you said is I want to trample people's rights, and when I asked what rights, the only thing you came back with was I didn't respect Muslims. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted September 5, 2016 Author Report Posted September 5, 2016 The question is not, "why would the resources be assigned differently depending on the gender of the attacker?", but rather, should the resources be assigned based on assumptions about the attacker? No, of course not. We should, as we do now, carefully select 89 year old grandmothers for extra careful pat-downs at airports rather than targeting young Muslim men. Because that makes sooo much sense. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
GostHacked Posted September 5, 2016 Report Posted September 5, 2016 No, of course not. We should, as we do now, carefully select 89 year old grandmothers for extra careful pat-downs at airports rather than targeting young Muslim men. Because that makes sooo much sense. The TSA does that already. Quote
dialamah Posted September 9, 2016 Report Posted September 9, 2016 The TSA does that already. Sometimes they also refuse babies who have certain names. There is nothing they won't do to keep us 'safe'. Quote
drummindiver Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 It's not hating the west, it is hating certain things that our government/military does that puts us in more danger from terrorism. Yes, cause the military makes women wear shorts and look like whores. What tosh. Quote
drummindiver Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 The position of this lefty is that the west slam the door on any more conservatives coming into North America. Everyone else is welcome. Lol...racist and bigoted at the same time. Quote
drummindiver Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 Yes, a lot of them were probably killed by their own countrymen. The blame for the situation however lies firmly at the feet of George Bush. Some people are better off than if Bush never invaded, but far more people are worse off and dead because he did. I wouldn't be surprised if the ratio is 1:1000 or more (better off compared to worse off or dead). Lol....he made me do it. Iraqis are proving that they cannot act in a peaceful manner to create a non violent society. Create a vacuum bullahit..,they had a chance to live in peace and this what they chose, and you can blame no one but them, so lease. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 They need someone/something to blame other than Islam or this entire experiment has been folly. So they blame me...you. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 Lol...racist and bigoted at the same time. Conservatism is a race? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
drummindiver Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 Conservatism is a race? You're right. Just bigoted then. Quote
eyeball Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 Partly I guess. There is a difference between intolerance for ideas and actions but the line has become awfully blurred these last few years. It used to be that conservatives were willing to admit (barely) that the west's behaviour in the ME has been a factor in the metastization of Islamic conservatism into something more intractably sinister. It's pretty clear that western conservatism is metastasizing in the same direction which suggests it's the conservatism that's the problem. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
?Impact Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 Lol....he made me do it. Iraqis are proving that they cannot act in a peaceful manner to create a non violent society. Create a vacuum bullahit..,they had a chance to live in peace and this what they chose, and you can blame no one but them, so lease. LOL, making excuses for the mass murderer George Bush. What kind of chance is it to kill hundred of thousands and then say you can't live peacefully. Quote
Argus Posted September 11, 2016 Author Report Posted September 11, 2016 LOL, making excuses for the mass murderer George Bush. What kind of chance is it to kill hundred of thousands and then say you can't live peacefully. I'm not sure what you guys are getting at but it seems that since western foreign policy sometimes is mistaken then it's okay to commit vicious acts of terrorism against westerners. Or if it's not okay well, at least it's not their fault. It's our fault because sometimes western foreign policy initiatives fail. Have I got that right? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
dialamah Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 (edited) I'm not sure what you guys are getting at but it seems that since western foreign policy sometimes is mistaken then it's okay to commit vicious acts of terrorism against westerners. Or if it's not okay well, at least it's not their fault. It's our fault because sometimes western foreign policy initiatives fail. Have I got that right?Acknowledgement equals taking responsibility for our actions, something conservatives whinge about constantly.Acknowledgement of our mistakes does not mean excusing, supporting or approving terrorism. Edited September 11, 2016 by dialamah Quote
Guest Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 If the actions of many ME nations are an example of the repercussions of western foreign policy, how do we explain Japan or Germany or India, etc? Quote
Argus Posted September 12, 2016 Author Report Posted September 12, 2016 Acknowledgement equals taking responsibility for our actions, something conservatives whinge about constantly. Acknowledgement of our mistakes does not mean excusing, supporting or approving terrorism. It seems to whenever the topic of Islamic terrorism arises. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
?Impact Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 I'm not sure what you guys are getting at If you would actually listen, you might get it. Terrorism bad, regardless who commits it. The acts of George Bush are terrorism. Quote
Argus Posted September 12, 2016 Author Report Posted September 12, 2016 If you would actually listen, you might get it. Terrorism bad, regardless who commits it. The acts of George Bush are terrorism. No, they're actually not. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
?Impact Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 If you were an innocent child, and George Bush rained down bombs in your neighbourhood murdering your family and maiming you for life you would consider him a terrorist. There are thousands of such examples. George Bush is a terrorist - period. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 If you were an innocent child, and George Bush rained down bombs in your neighbourhood murdering your family and maiming you for life you would consider him a terrorist. There are thousands of such examples. George Bush is a terrorist - period. The Japanese loved MacArthur. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
?Impact Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 The Japanese loved MacArthur. The Japanese government attacked the US, the Iraqi government didn't. Japan emerged from the war with a lot of support, stability, and rebuilding into a strong nation. Iraq emerged from peace into a disaster zone. Lots of other differences, but if you can't see those two big ones then you are lost. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 We make a lot of excuses for Islam. Islam started this war back in the Middle Ages. It exists for only one reason. To stick it to the other religions. A faith based on revenge rather than forgiveness. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
drummindiver Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 The Japanese government attacked the US, the Iraqi government didn't. Japan emerged from the war with a lot of support, stability, and rebuilding into a strong nation. Iraq emerged from peace into a disaster zone. Lots of other differences, but if you can't see those two big ones then you are lost. What is the difference? Japanese wanted to build a peaceful society. Iraqis have proven over and over they do not. Quote
drummindiver Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 If you were an innocent child, and George Bush rained down bombs in your neighbourhood murdering your family and maiming you for life you would consider him a terrorist. There are thousands of such examples. George Bush is a terrorist - period. JT is a terrorist. If you ain't against them, you're for them. http://www.torontosun.com/2016/09/12/trudeau-visits-mosque-with-terror-connections Quote
DogOnPorch Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 What is the difference? Japanese wanted to build a peaceful society. Iraqis have proven over and over they do not. They gave-up Shintoism combined with its extreme Bushido Code. Also a religion. Took two Atomic Bombs and many fire raids, mind-you. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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