America under President Trump

Boges · December 6, 2019

12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

One thing worth pointing out about those strong job numbers is that the vast majority of the jobs that are created under a Republican/Conservative government are in the private sector, and they don't cost the taxpayers anything at all - they actually contribute to the economy and broaden the tax base.

When we elect socialist governments, like the NDP were in Alberta, they post a lot of strong-looking job numbers but the bulk of them are public sector jobs which are just a drain on the budget.

What if those Private sector jobs were attracted by giving generous tax breaks to the company?

Yzermandius19 · December 6, 2019

Politicians are hypocrites? Who knew?

bush_cheney2004 · December 6, 2019

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

Trump mocked Obama's good job figures as fake.

Good ole Hypocrisy.

It works for Trump....mocking Obama was good for at least another 5,000,000 votes.

Boges · December 6, 2019

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

It works for Trump....mocking Obama was good for at least another 5,000,000 votes.

Embrace the Hypocrisy.

When there is a bad jobs number, I'm sure the impeachment will be to blame. :rolleyes:

bush_cheney2004 · December 6, 2019

Just now, Boges said:

Embrace the Hypocrisy.

When there is a bad jobs number, I'm sure the impeachment will be to blame.

The employment trend under Trump has been good for a long time....better than Obama...with real wage growth now.

Trump polls highest with American voters when it comes to the economy.

"The economy, stupid". - James Carville (1992)

WestCanMan · December 6, 2019

22 minutes ago, Boges said:

What if those Private sector jobs were attracted by giving generous tax breaks to the company?

The point of the tax breaks was to bump the economy, so it would be money well spent.

WestCanMan · December 6, 2019

20 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Politicians are hypocrites? Who knew?

I wish that Trudeau's worst quality was that he was a hypocrite. There's lots of room to be a hypocrite and still do a reasonable job of running the country.

Boges · December 6, 2019

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

I wish that Trudeau's worst quality was that he was a hypocrite. There's lots of room to be a hypocrite and still do a reasonable job of running the country.

Hypocrisy is one of the worst qualities anyone can have.

Cannucklehead · December 6, 2019

15 billion dollars right down the toilet due to a ladder that probably cost about 20 dollars. :lol:

bush_cheney2004 · December 7, 2019

4 hours ago, Cannucklehead said:

15 billion dollars right down the toilet due to a ladder that probably cost about 20 dollars.

Cars and trucks do not normally climb ladders.

New border wall is going up in Texas:

Yzermandius19 · December 7, 2019

7 hours ago, Boges said:

Hypocrisy is one of the worst qualities anyone can have.

This is politicians we are talking about, expecting them not to be hypocrites is to be naive.

Edited December 7, 2019 by Yzermandius19

Rue · December 7, 2019

10 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

This is politicians we are talking about, expecting them not to be hypocrites is to be naive.

Making excuses for TRump for being corrupt, mentally ill, incompetent is what exactly? The issues are not about what other people

do they are about what Trump has done and is doing. You deflect from that trying again to resurrect the argument that since

politicians have syphilis its ok Trump has syphilis. No its not. He is spreading it. Saying others spread it does not stop him

from spreading it and if the President is supposed to show leadership on preventing syphilis not how to spread it.

Shady · December 7, 2019

On 12/6/2019 at 8:39 AM, Boges said:

We don't "barely" contribute. We just don't contribute at a comparable level to the US. There are no Western Democracies that do. The US are sitting out on a ledge alone with the Military Industrial Complex they have. But that's what being the world's only Super Power gets you.

The US spend so much on defence yet they lag behind these "deadbeat" nations (Canada Included) with most of the KPIs of a happy prosperous nation.

We don’t contribute equal to the benefits we receive. Don’t let Trump so affect you that you don’t acknowledge basic facts. Besides, America is the most prosperous nation in the world, with a population 10 times larger than most NATO member countries. So comparisons aren’t exactly apt. Also consider the massive influx of poor non-English speaking immigrants that come through their Southern border, in most cases illegally that negatively impact certain key indicators like education and healthcare.

Shady · December 7, 2019

22 hours ago, Boges said:

What if those Private sector jobs were attracted by giving generous tax breaks to the company?

Somebody getting to keep more of their own money, in order to expand their business and/or workforce isn’t “costing” tax payers. It’s not the government’s money in the first place. It’s still a net positive. Has your Trump Derangement Syndrome turned you into that much of a statist/socialist? You gotta stop letting Trump make you think and act in a different manner than you otherwise would.

Shady · December 7, 2019

22 hours ago, Boges said:

Trump mocked Obama's good job figures as fake.

Good ole Hypocrisy.

Yep. And Obama mocked Bush’s. Did you just start following politics a couple of years ago? Mocking jobs has been around since the beginning. Democrats used to mock Reagan’s as all hamburger flipping jobs, You really need better perspective.

Yzermandius19 · December 7, 2019

2 hours ago, Rue said:

Making excuses for TRump for being corrupt, mentally ill, incompetent is what exactly? The issues are not about what other people

do they are about what Trump has done and is doing. You deflect from that trying again to resurrect the argument that since

politicians have syphilis its ok Trump has syphilis. No its not. He is spreading it. Saying others spread it does not stop him

from spreading it and if the President is supposed to show leadership on preventing syphilis not how to spread it.

All politicians are hypocrites, it's like calling water wet. He isn't spreading nothing, it's baked into the cake of politics. All politicians were hypocrites before Trump, all politicians will be hypocrites after Trump, if you only notice the hypocrisy when Trump is in power, that's called Trump Derangement Syndrome. No POTUS has ever not been a hypocrite, that's not a thing that has ever happened, you need to learn to deal instead of expecting saints to get elected to higher office.

Politicians have never been the selfless public servants they claim themselves to be, and that is never going to change no matter how much you virtue signal that it should change. Holding onto that, as if it's realistic possibility is just pure naivete.

The game is out there, it's either play, or get played.

Edited December 7, 2019 by Yzermandius19

WestCanMan · December 7, 2019

On 12/6/2019 at 12:25 PM, Boges said:

Hypocrisy is one of the worst qualities anyone can have.

I totally agree that it's a horrible quality for a person to have, it's just not the worst quality that the leader of your country can have.

WestCanMan · December 7, 2019

On 12/6/2019 at 2:22 PM, Cannucklehead said:

15 billion dollars right down the toilet due to a ladder that probably cost about 20 dollars.

Riiiight. The point of a wall isn't that it makes it thoroughly impossible to cross. It makes it thoroughly impossible for thousands of people to cross quickly.

If that was just an open stretch of border 20 yards wide then 30,000 people could have crossed in that time span.

If that was an open stretch of border then you'd need guards and dogs and copters and cameras and drones patrolling it 24/7, and the guards would have to arrest and detain and feed the thousands of people that cross until they were processed by the bureaucracy.

What the idiotic Dems don't realize is that if you have a country where everything is free from healthcare, dental care, K-12 plus university, and everyone is guaranteed a living wage, then open borders don't work. You actually need a wall.

Cannucklehead · December 7, 2019

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Riiiight. The point of a wall isn't that it makes it thoroughly impossible to cross. It makes it thoroughly impossible for thousands of people to cross quickly.

If that was just an open stretch of border 20 yards wide then 30,000 people could have crossed in that time span.

If that was an open stretch of border then you'd need guards and dogs and copters and cameras and drones patrolling it 24/7, and the guards would have to arrest and detain and feed the thousands of people that cross until they were processed by the bureaucracy.

What the idiotic Dems don't realize is that if you have a country where everything is free from healthcare, dental care, K-12 plus university, and everyone is guaranteed a living wage, then open borders don't work. You actually need a wall.

But they had a wall before. Trump first wanted a concrete wall that was 30 feet high (and for Mexico to pay for it)

And now he said this one will be inpenetrable, and yet people are climbing it and sawing holes through it like cheese.

WestCanMan · December 7, 2019

29 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:

But they had a wall before. Trump first wanted a concrete wall that was 30 feet high (and for Mexico to pay for it)

And now he said this one will be inpenetrable, and yet people are climbing it and sawing holes through it like cheese.

But, but, but. The wall does what walls do. It's far better than what thousands of guards and dogs and cameras and drones do. People cross at their own risk, there's no worries about negative interactions with border guards, like when the lady got tear-gassed at the border while she was carrying a baby. "BAD BAD BORDER GUARDS! What were they thinking doing that to a woman carrying a baby!" right? There's no onus on a mother to keep her baby out of harm's way, right?

Bear Claw · December 8, 2019

On 12/6/2019 at 5:22 PM, Cannucklehead said:

15 billion dollars right down the toilet due to a ladder that probably cost about 20 dollars.

If Trump saw this video, he would be crying!

He just might want to start a ladder factory in Mexico

Cannucklehead · December 8, 2019

3 hours ago, Bear Claw said:

If Trump saw this video, he would be crying!

He just might want to start a ladder factory in Mexico

https://www.thenation.com/article/trump-food-stamps-homeless/

He's probably going to start one in america :lol:

Shady · December 8, 2019

7 hours ago, Bear Claw said:

If Trump saw this video, he would be crying!

He just might want to start a ladder factory in Mexico

All this proves is that like with any wall of fence, surveillance is also important. As far as I know, important walls, like around Fort Knox or the White House, etc, are still up, with no plans for removal due to this video.

Cannucklehead · December 8, 2019

9 minutes ago, Shady said:

All this proves is that like with any wall of fence, surveillance is also important. As far as I know, important walls, like around Fort Knox or the White House, etc, are still up, with no plans for removal due to this video.

Lol those are fenced and not nearly as high.

Go back to Berlin.