bush_cheney2004 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Posted December 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Argus said: Did they insert a special tax provision to help their own companies? Presidents do not insert anything....amendments come from Congress. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Cum Laude Posted December 21, 2017 Report Posted December 21, 2017 2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Presidents do not insert anything....amendments come from Congress. You are absolutely correct BC, and a wage slave is often a debt slave as well. I hear so many say that they will just have to work until they die, a more retarded statement has never been made. Unless of course you are planning on dying young or hold a seat in the US Senate or Congress, but then you’re not really working. It amazes me how a simple catch phrase or cliché can justify retarded behavior in stupid people. Everyone seems to have forgotten the wisdom of old in the sayings, of “a fool and his money are soon parted”, or “never give a sucker an even break”. The horror, the horror… Quote
Argus Posted December 21, 2017 Report Posted December 21, 2017 18 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Presidents do not insert anything....amendments come from Congress. And this is never done at the behest of presidents, even by a supine congress which fights each other to come up with the most obsequious flattery of its demented, senile president? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
taxme Posted December 22, 2017 Report Posted December 22, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 3:58 PM, Kerfuffle said: SUN TV a right wing cable station Did not last long as viewers dwindled and debt climbed And the Trudeau/Brazeau fight was also televised on the Sun News Network, Canada's version of Fox News, if Fox News was completely broke and taped out of a divorced dad's basement. Sun News eventually did go under and morphed into The Rebel, which is basically Canada's Breitbart, if Breitbart was taped out of a divorced dad's shed. For sheer entertainment value, our right wing can't possibly compete with the American right wing. Show me a conservative in Canada who sincerely believes that Barack Obama was born in Kenya or that Sarah Palin would make a terrific president. Next to American conservatives, our conservatives are wimps. Who's going to stay glued to Sun TV when it lands that exclusive interview with Vic Toews? Oh and the fight results if you cant remember...the fight ended, with the ref calling it as Brazeau—nose bleeding/legs weak/mom's spaghetti—was completely unable to defend himself any longer. My error. I meant to say Sun News Network. Indeed, our conservatives are just as liberal as the liberals are. Not one of them will dare speak political incorrectness. They are a bunch of wimps. Canada has become a very wimpy country in the past few decades. We can't even stop apologizing anymore. I wished that Brazeau had kicked Trudeau's butt. 1 Quote
Boges Posted January 3, 2018 Report Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) Is comparing the world ending nuclear button you have on your desk a productive way to deal with a rogue state. Trump has more in common with Kim Jong Un than differences. Edited January 3, 2018 by Boges Quote
Argus Posted January 3, 2018 Report Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) Uh oh, what are the Trump loyalists to make of this quote from one of their saints? "The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor - with no lawyers. They didn't have any lawyers," Bannon said in the book in excerpts seen by Reuters. "Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad shit, and I happen to think it's all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately." https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/us-politics/bannon-calls-trump-jr-meeting-with-russians-treasonous-in-new-book/article37479201/ Edited January 3, 2018 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Boges Posted January 3, 2018 Report Posted January 3, 2018 I'd love to see Trump clap back Bannon on for accusing his son of treason. . . he won't though. Quote
Kerfuffle Posted January 3, 2018 Report Posted January 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Argus said: Uh oh, what are the Trump loyalists to make of this quote from one of their saints? "The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor - with no lawyers. They didn't have any lawyers," Bannon said in the book in excerpts seen by Reuters. "Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad shit, and I happen to think it's all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately." https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/us-politics/bannon-calls-trump-jr-meeting-with-russians-treasonous-in-new-book/article37479201/ Oh Boy....get the popcorn ready Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 3, 2018 Report Posted January 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, Boges said: I'd love to see Trump clap back Bannon on for accusing his son of treason. . . he won't though. Nope, he has now turned the attack on Bannon. The alt-right kaleidescope of conspiracy will have a tough time making sense of this one. They may suggest that the conflict is made up by CNN and the Clintons and the MSM, or alternately that it's a set-up to ensnare Obama somehow ie. that Bannon and Trump are still cohorts. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Boges Posted January 3, 2018 Report Posted January 3, 2018 You're right https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/01/03/trump-blasts-former-chief-strategist-bannon-he-lost-his-mind.html I wonder where Trump is without the support of Briebart? Quote
Kerfuffle Posted January 3, 2018 Report Posted January 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, Boges said: You're right https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/01/03/trump-blasts-former-chief-strategist-bannon-he-lost-his-mind.html I wonder where Trump is without the support of Briebart? Trump will be ok...He has Nixon coaching him. Quote
Boges Posted January 3, 2018 Report Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Kerfuffle said: Trump will be ok...He has Nixon coaching him. On how to get impeached? Edited January 3, 2018 by Boges Quote
Argus Posted January 3, 2018 Report Posted January 3, 2018 55 minutes ago, Boges said: On how to get impeached? He can't get impeached unless the democrats win control of congress. And the US has thus far done precisely NOTHING to secure their electoral systems from Russian hacking and interference. For some reason... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
OftenWrong Posted January 4, 2018 Report Posted January 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Argus said: He can't get impeached unless the democrats win control of congress. And the US has thus far done precisely NOTHING to secure their electoral systems from Russian hacking and interference. For some reason... Maybe you didn't mean hacking. I haven't heard of outright hacking of the computers suspected, but plenty about how Russians used social media to spread misinformation. Anyone can do that though, and I don't think it's a crime. If stupid people believe you and vote that way, it's not illegal. So they used it to persuade people to vote for Trump over Hillary. I don't doubt that for a second and anyone who knows how these elections work should be aware, election meddling or interference happens every time, in every country in the world and in each case there's a superpower doing the meddling. Trump is an asshole, but there are plenty of people who feel that he's exactly the kind of person the US needs right now to reestablish its dominant position. As to the impeachment that so many liberals are eagerly hoping for, I can;t think of what he's done that's PROVEN, that would justify impeachment. Quote
Boges Posted January 4, 2018 Report Posted January 4, 2018 Other than family and, perhaps, KellyAnn Conway who's been a constant Trump ally from the early parts of his candidacy to today? Bannon, Priebus, The Mootch, Spicer, Manafort, Flynn. All have, either voluntary, by FBI investigation or involuntarily been forced out of MAGAland. There can't be many people left who'll stand with him till the bitter end. Quote
Argus Posted January 4, 2018 Report Posted January 4, 2018 15 hours ago, OftenWrong said: Maybe you didn't mean hacking. I haven't heard of outright hacking of the computers suspected, WASHINGTON — The federal government on Friday told election officials in 21 states that hackers targeted their systems before last year’s presidential election. The notification came roughly a year after officials with the United States Department of Homeland Security first said states were targeted by hacking efforts possibly connected to Russia. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/22/us/politics/us-tells-21-states-that-hackers-targeted-their-voting-systems.html Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Boges Posted January 4, 2018 Report Posted January 4, 2018 Bannon has threatened to sue over Trump's Press Release saying he's lost his mind. Quote
taxme Posted January 4, 2018 Report Posted January 4, 2018 23 hours ago, Argus said: He can't get impeached unless the democrats win control of congress. And the US has thus far done precisely NOTHING to secure their electoral systems from Russian hacking and interference. For some reason... The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming. Hurry, go run and hide from those scary and evil Russians as fast as you can. They will have you for dinner if they catch you. When will this chit about Russian hacking ever end with all those liberals and conservatives fools out there who think that Russia is the biggest threat to America and humanity. How many countries has Russia invaded compared to how many countries America invaded? Think about it. The old Stalinist communist Russia is gone. Get with the program and into the 21st century will you. Some people's kids. Shocking. Quote
taxme Posted January 4, 2018 Report Posted January 4, 2018 28 minutes ago, Boges said: Bannon has threatened to sue over Trump's Press Release saying he's lost his mind. It would appear as though Bannon has lost his bloody mind. Why attack someone who said that they(Trump)were going to drain the swamp and where Bannon was in full agreement with Trump on draining that swamp. And now this. This now just creates more problems within the ranks of the republican/conservative movement all to the joy of the democrat/liberals out there. I just don't get it anymore. Politics really does stink. The whole gawd dam political system needs to be dumped and replaced by a more intelligent common sense one. But how can this be done is the question of the day. When it comes to liberals they stick together, no matter what. When it comes to conservatives they appear to like to stick it to each other over whatever they can get on that other conservative. It is no wonder that the conservative movement has a tough time of it. They appear to not understand the word teamwork. Quote
Argus Posted January 4, 2018 Report Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, taxme said: The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming. Hurry, go run and hide from those scary and evil Russians as fast as you can. They will have you for dinner if they catch you. When will this chit about Russian hacking ever end with all those liberals and conservatives fools out there who think that Russia is the biggest threat to America and humanity. Russia IS the biggest threat to the West, and has been for seventy years now. It's run by a megalomaniac butcher without a soul and a thoroughly corrupt collection of his oligarch friends, has systematically robbed its people of their wealth and destroyed freedom wherever they found it. I question either the intelligence or the patriotism of anyone who doesn't agree. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 4, 2018 Report Posted January 4, 2018 57 minutes ago, taxme said: It would appear as though Bannon has lost his bloody mind. Why attack someone who said that they(Trump)were going to drain the swamp Because he made no attempt whatsoever o drain the swamp? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
OftenWrong Posted January 4, 2018 Report Posted January 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Argus said: WASHINGTON — The federal government on Friday told election officials in 21 states that hackers targeted their systems before last year’s presidential election. The notification came roughly a year after officials with the United States Department of Homeland Security first said states were targeted by hacking efforts possibly connected to Russia. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/22/us/politics/us-tells-21-states-that-hackers-targeted-their-voting-systems.html Thanks for the link. Reading through it shows that the phrase "targeted" does not mean that the software was hacked and compromised. So basically this is about attempted hacking, which is commonplace in every election. Russians try to hack US, America tries to hack Russia, other countries, etc. This is very much part of the problem with the media today- they are not outright lying, but promoting half-truths which the public can then interpret in predictable (but not necessarily accurate) ways. Headlines, sound bites are being carefully crafted to promote an agenda. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 4, 2018 Report Posted January 4, 2018 Interesting to go back through this thread a year or so and pick out predictions: On 11/16/2016 at 12:19 AM, August1991 said: Scott Adams has suggested that President Trump, as reparations for slavery, will forgive the current student loans of all black students. I suggested that President Trump will name Barack Obama to the Supreme Court. (It's happened before. Taft.) Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 More foreshadowing: Quote On 12/16/2016 at 12:54 AM, sharkman said: I love how the left thinks that Trump's a dunce. They are being bamboozled by the master and they never saw him coming. ) Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 Predicting first surplus in decades: Quote On 12/16/2016 at 11:42 AM, sharkman said: Better get used to it, there'll be a lot of firsts, highest rates of growth, smallest budget deficit, first surplus in decades, etc. Never predict anything, folks... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
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