Shady Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 No, I believe you as the stated expert...the U.S. in untrained and not very helpful in this or many other instances. All the USA has is that dumb Smokey Bear ad campaign. Don't you know that we don't know what was offered! Probably some Girl Scouts and landscaping professionals. Wouldn't be like fire experts or trained firefighters or anything. /facepalm Quote
Smallc Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 Don't you know that we don't know what was offered! If you know, please share it. Wouldn't be like fire experts or trained firefighters or anything. /facepalm The people who told him, we didn't need/want the help, were experts as well. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 Your feelings are hurt far too easily. Tell that to the Albertans who have lost their homes. "We got this ! " Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 Tell that to the Albertans who have lost their homes. "We got this ! " You mean the Albertans that didn't lose their lives? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 You mean the Albertans that didn't lose their lives? No....tell them all they are too sensitive about boreal forest fires. They should trust the self appointed experts. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 They should trust the self appointed experts. 'Self appointed' experts with years of training in firefighting, emergency management, and workplace safety? Yeah, I'll take their word. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 The insurance companies won't. "We got this ! " Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
The_Squid Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 Russian and/or American firefighters would have saved Fort Mac from losing homes? LOL Might be the stupidest argument yet... Quote
waldo Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 Russian and/or American firefighters would have saved Fort Mac from losing homes? LOL Might be the stupidest argument yet... I don't know how that outside help from Ontario and Quebec made it through the blockade that bastardo Trudeau set up! As many as 29 water tankers were flying... that point about supposed "air saturation" was just a, uhhh... smokescreen... to ensure that commie Putin didn't get a foothold for his commie propaganda! And who can be at all surprised that the dogged pressure finally had Rachel Notley admit she personally started the gawdDamn wildfire! “It is time to confess my sins,” said an emotional Notley at a press conference announcing the news. “Not only did I ignore the wildfire as it spread, not only did I divert resources from firefighters in order to house Syrian refugees and fund gay weddings, I actually travelled in secret to an area outside Fort McMurray and started a fire using gasoline and a flame thrower.” Despite their success, the province’s social media deputies were not ready to rest on their laurels, as they were already hot on the trail of Notley’s suspected accomplice: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. . Quote
Topaz Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 Those people who had homes burn, can they decide to take the insurance money then leave FT. Mac or do they have rebuild there? Quote
Accountability Now Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 Those people who had homes burn, can they decide to take the insurance money then leave FT. Mac or do they have rebuild there? Insurance typically only covers the cost for your possessions and for the house itself. It does not cover the land as you can rebuild on it. So if one chose to leave then they would have to sell the land, which might not be too difficult but does present a task. Quote
The_Squid Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 It would be very difficult to sell in Fort Mac given the depressed resource economy and the fact that you'd be selling an empty lot. Also, many people bought when prices were extremely inflated and now they would get a fraction of that. My nephew just bought a boat from Albertans selling their expensive toys very cheaply! He got a great deal! Quote
-1=e^ipi Posted May 18, 2016 Report Posted May 18, 2016 Foreign help is looking appealing... Oh well, guess its better to let Alberta burn to the ground. They are only evil people selling toxic sludge and harming to planet. It's not like they are Quebecois or anything. Quote
Smallc Posted May 18, 2016 Report Posted May 18, 2016 Foreign help is looking appealing... To whom? Uninformed pundits? Quote
msj Posted May 18, 2016 Report Posted May 18, 2016 To whom? Uninformed pundits? And uninformed armchair firefighters. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
msj Posted May 18, 2016 Report Posted May 18, 2016 And uninformed armchair firefighters. I want to see their charity calendar pics! Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Derek 2.0 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Posted May 18, 2016 To whom? Uninformed pundits? How many Americans are fighting fires in Manitoba? Quote
Smallc Posted May 18, 2016 Report Posted May 18, 2016 How many Americans are fighting fires in Manitoba? I think none now. There were some last week, along with two air tankers. That was, of course, a totally different circumstance. Quote
-1=e^ipi Posted May 18, 2016 Report Posted May 18, 2016 Yes, cause Canada is so small that all these planes will collide with each other due to lack of airspace. Not like there are out of control fires or anything. Quote
cybercoma Posted May 18, 2016 Report Posted May 18, 2016 Yes, cause Canada is so small that all these planes will collide with each other due to lack of airspace. Not like there are out of control fires or anything. Yes. The wildfire has spread out across ALL of Canada! The entire area of the country. Great argument. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) I think none now. There were some last week, along with two air tankers. That was, of course, a totally different circumstance. How so? Did the Manitoba fires threaten a major economic resource? ---------- Forgot the burning of the city, if this fire, now moving north-northeast, torches Suncor's Firebag project, we're talking a halt in production near equal to some nations total daily production..........the loss of Libya during the onset of the civil war, which as a nation only produced slightly more than one of Suncor's sites, had worldwide follow on effects with the oil markets..........only this time, we won't benefit nearly as much from a bump in the price of oil. If there was reason to allow Americans to join the fight in Manitoba, I see no reason that outside help should be turned away, especially now with those fighting the fire having been at it with little rest for a week+ and now the fire actually threatening to burn a major economic engine for our country........economics aside, if full storage tanks go, it will be a major environmental disaster. Edited May 18, 2016 by Derek 2.0 Quote
msj Posted May 18, 2016 Report Posted May 18, 2016 Should have left it in the ground, eh? Bwahahahhahahahahah.... Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Posted May 18, 2016 Canada knows best...let it burn ! Think of all the money that will be saved for firefighting budgets. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted May 18, 2016 Report Posted May 18, 2016 What lasts longer? The wildfire or Justin as PM? Right now I think it's probably 50/50. Wildfires can burn for a pretty long time. 1 Quote
waldo Posted May 18, 2016 Report Posted May 18, 2016 What lasts longer? The wildfire or Justin as PM? Right now I think it's probably 50/50. Wildfires can burn for a pretty long time. hey now! Latest days old polling results from Forum research has the Liberals at 52%... that's superMajority territory! When's the honeymoon over, hey? . Quote
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