Big Guy Posted April 29, 2016 Report Posted April 29, 2016 Now that Canada has realized what a waste of time it was to have our airships dropping bombs on anything that moved in Iraq and Syria, we have decided to send ground troops to "train" our allies. At least now we get to find out who our allies are. Canadian troops are now on the ground working with the Kurds in a planned attack on Mosul: http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.2879589 They will be subjected to "indirect fire" and will probably fire if/when fired at. Where have we heard that before? I assume that will be the mantra until the body bags start coming home. By the way, the Kurds are the enemies of Turkey so I guess we are now enemies of Turkey - are we not? These folks should publish a scorecard so the Canadians know who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. How soon before we get out of this insanity and let those folks fight their own civil wars. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
?Impact Posted April 29, 2016 Report Posted April 29, 2016 We should not be training on the front lines. The argument that it is more effective is irrelevant, it is not our place to be in the front lines in a civil war. Quote
PIK Posted April 29, 2016 Report Posted April 29, 2016 The kurds need and deserve our help. And the bombing is working. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Topaz Posted April 30, 2016 Report Posted April 30, 2016 IF the bombing is working(?) its because Russia got involved but in my view, twenty years from now, we'll still probably be there bombing. Quote
G Huxley Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 I support training the Kurds, but getting further embroiled in the America's crusade is a waste of time and counterproductive. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 Of course Canada supports training Kurds, just as it supports Canadian oil services contracts in the region, like those for Range Energy Resources: VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA--(Marketwired - Apr 5, 2016) - Range Energy Resources Inc. ("Range" or the "Company") (CSE:RGO) (YGK.F) announces that on April 5th, 2016, Gas Plus Khalakan ("GPK"), the sole contractor of the Khalakan PSC in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq, issued a statement regarding the successful testing and completion of the Shewashan-2 development well. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sheweshan-2-well-successfully-tested-155921270.html;_ylt=AwrC0F9DlSdXbSsAtG.TmYlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTE0Z3E2ODkzBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM0BHZ0aWQDVklEUUJDS18xBHNlYwNzYw-- Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 Of course Canada supports training Kurds, just as it supports Canadian oil services contracts in the region, like those for Range Energy Resources: please clarify the 'Canada support' for a private company 'bit player' in an initiative principally fronted by New Age (African Global Energy) Limited as supported by the (KRG) Kurdistan Regional Government's Ministry of Natural Resources... . Quote
eyeball Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 please clarify the 'Canada support' for a private company 'bit player' in an initiative principally fronted by New Age (African Global Energy) Limited as supported by the (KRG) Kurdistan Regional Government's Ministry of Natural Resources... . If we're in for a penny we're in for a pound. We deserve a pounding too, especially in light of our truckin' and tradin' with Saudi Arabia. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 If we're in for a penny we're in for a pound... Perfectly understandable and consistent with Canadian oil services contracts in several nations for the region, not just Iraq. Like Chretien, Martin, or Harper, PM Trudeau will be supportive of Canadian mining and oil services interests around the world. Training Kurdish military forces in Iraq is consistent with this objective. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Yep. If you've seen one western war-pig you've seen them all. Edited May 2, 2016 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
waldo Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 Perfectly understandable and consistent with Canadian oil services contracts in several nations for the region, not just Iraq. Like Chretien, Martin, or Harper, PM Trudeau will be supportive of Canadian mining and oil services interests around the world. Training Kurdish military forces in Iraq is consistent with this objective. "will be supportive"... now you're into your crystal ballin'! you thought you had something with your last post on that private 'somewhat minuscule' company venture. Sorry to have burst your bubble there... why the way you perpetually flogged that pic of Paul Martin in the desert tent through MLW thread after MLW thread, one would have thought you could update on that and actually present something on Harper providing direct Canadian support in regards your reference to Kurdistan oil. oh wait... didn't your efforts to highlight Canadian interests in Iraq somewhat back-fire on ya - should we resurrect a thread, hey! It's always humourous to realize just how far you've reached to try to deflect away the shyte-storm results U.S. Iraq "regime change" has wrought, hey! . Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 Yep. If you've seen one western war-pig you've seen them all. Mine is not to pass judgement...just the facts. Kurdistan has even bigger goals than making Canada some oil money. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 The kurds need and deserve our help. And the bombing is working. We could help the Kurds, but one of our allies (Turkey) does not want to help them at all. Turkey go out of it's way to make sure the Kurds have a hard life. Quote
Big Guy Posted May 3, 2016 Author Report Posted May 3, 2016 We could help the Kurds, but one of our allies (Turkey) does not want to help them at all. Turkey go out of it's way to make sure the Kurds have a hard life. Turkey is an enemy of the Kurds and vice versa. They have been at war for years. Canada is an ally of the Kurds. Canada is an ally of Turkey. ??????????????????????????? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
dre Posted May 3, 2016 Report Posted May 3, 2016 One single dime spent in the middle east is too much. Let them fight if they want to fight. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
GostHacked Posted May 3, 2016 Report Posted May 3, 2016 We should not be training on the front lines. The argument that it is more effective is irrelevant, it is not our place to be in the front lines in a civil war. That's if you consider it to be a civil war and not just a continuation of the war from over 10 years ago. Quote
Big Guy Posted May 4, 2016 Author Report Posted May 4, 2016 The Americans have a few troops in Iraq but they are only in a support and teaching role and not expected to be involved in combat in that civil war: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/defense-secretary-carter-american-killed-combat-iraq-38835260 Looks like an American SEAL did not read the instructions. Fortunately for Canada, our troops in Iraq are only for a support and teaching role and not expected to be involved in combat in that civil war. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
dre Posted May 4, 2016 Report Posted May 4, 2016 There's no need for any of this at all. Never mind sending troops, aircraft, or "trainers".... We should not even pay the long distance charges to TALK to people in the middle east about this conflict (that our allies caused in an epic act of stupidity). Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 4, 2016 Report Posted May 4, 2016 Canadians would still go to the ME for the mining and oil services contracts, just like they always have. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted May 4, 2016 Report Posted May 4, 2016 Canadians would still go to the ME for the mining and oil services contracts, just like they always have. you keep beating on this point; again, what do private citizens representing private companies pursuing, "mining and or oil services contracts in the Middle East, proper", have to do with whatever Canadian military decision/deployment the Canadian government chooses to enact/sanction within Iraq... you know, what this thread is about, hey? . Quote
Big Guy Posted May 6, 2016 Author Report Posted May 6, 2016 So our troops are teaching and supporting Iraqi troops? Why are they wearing Kurdish flags on their uniforms? http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/05/canadian-troops-iraq-wearing-kurdish-flag-160505171906785.html The Kurds are in a war with Turkey. Who the hell are we helping there and why? When did we start wearing the flags of other countries? Why are we still in this deadly civil war? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
eyeball Posted May 6, 2016 Report Posted May 6, 2016 Why are we still in this deadly civil war? Like the rest of the west I think we're mostly there to keep up appearances. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
dre Posted May 6, 2016 Report Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) So our troops are teaching and supporting Iraqi troops? Why are they wearing Kurdish flags on their uniforms? http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/05/canadian-troops-iraq-wearing-kurdish-flag-160505171906785.html The Kurds are in a war with Turkey. Who the hell are we helping there and why? When did we start wearing the flags of other countries? Why are we still in this deadly civil war? Because of civilian leaders that simply dont have a clue about middle eastern regional dynamics, and the do-gooders here at home that support them and think we should go racing across the world to provide security every time they see an upsetting video on youtube. The stupid leading the stupid. Never a great combination. Edited May 6, 2016 by dre Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
BC_chick Posted May 6, 2016 Report Posted May 6, 2016 So our troops are teaching and supporting Iraqi troops? Why are they wearing Kurdish flags on their uniforms? http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/05/canadian-troops-iraq-wearing-kurdish-flag-160505171906785.html The Kurds are in a war with Turkey. Who the hell are we helping there and why? When did we start wearing the flags of other countries? Why are we still in this deadly civil war? If wearing Kurdish flags decrease the chances of being attacked by the kurds, doesn't it by the same token increase the dangers from the side which we are supposedly supporting? Nothing in that article made any sense. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Big Guy Posted May 6, 2016 Author Report Posted May 6, 2016 If wearing Kurdish flags decrease the chances of being attacked by the kurds, doesn't it by the same token increase the dangers from the side which we are supposedly supporting? Nothing in that article made any sense. Our involvement over there does not make sense. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
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