Canadians FEAR Trump...Big Time

[bush_cheney2004]

1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Trump is a trash based on his racist sexist speeches and ideas and American people today are going to put him where he belongs that is the trash bag of the history.

 

Actually, Donald Trump is going to win many states in the election.   Even in defeat, he will have exceeded all expectations, gone much farther than Bernie Sanders, and given voice to those who wish to collectively raise their middle fingers to Washington and the status quo. 

Canada will have to accept the result either way....it has no choice in the matter.

[CITIZEN_2015]

9 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Actually, Donald Trump is going to win many states in the election.   Even in defeat, he will have exceeded all expectations, gone much farther than Bernie Sanders, and given voice to those who wish to collectively raise their middle fingers to Washington and the status quo. 

Canada will have to accept the result either way....it has no choice in the matter.

If that is the case (and I doubt that is the case) after all revelations and his sexist racist arrogant remarks what does that would tell about Americans?? 

[bush_cheney2004]

12 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

If that is the case (and I doubt that is the case) after all revelations and his sexist racist arrogant remarks what does that would tell about Americans?? 

 

It tells us that Americans voters today are the same as those who have voted before.  They even voted for Bill Clinton, who was eventually impeached.

[CITIZEN_2015]

1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

It tells us that Americans voters today are the same as those who have voted before.  They even voted for Bill Clinton, who was eventually impeached.

And they voted for Bush TWICE (though the first time it was rigged thanks to his brother) who destroyed the US by war, economic mismanagement, many Americans killed, out of work, ..... Yes it tells much about Americans and their intelligent.

Edited November 8, 2016 by CITIZEN_2015

[bush_cheney2004]

35 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

And they voted for Bush TWICE (though the first time it was rigged thanks to his brother) who destroyed the US by war, economic mismanagement, many Americans killed, out of work, ..... Yes it tells much about Americans and their intelligent.

 

Voted for FDR too....far more Americans killed. 

[Ash74]

24 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Voted for FDR too....far more Americans killed. 

Lincoln killed the most and he destroyed the economy. Are you gonna compare Him to Bush?

 

[bush_cheney2004]

20 minutes ago, Ash74 said:

Lincoln killed the most and he destroyed the economy. Are you gonna compare Him to Bush?

 

 

Yes...if that be the measure desired.   Canadians FEARed that FDR would not get thousands of Americans killed in their empire's war.

[Ash74]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Yes...if that be the measure desired.   Canadians FEARed that FDR would not get thousands of Americans killed in their empire's war.

How was it an empire war?

Japanese empire I guess. 

Or are you saying Hitler was just misunderstood?

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Ash74 said:

How was it an empire war?

Japanese empire I guess. 

Or are you saying Hitler was just misunderstood?

 

Getting off topic.....but it sure wasn't the Americans.   Canadians wanted the U.S. to join their empire's wars...twice.   I suppose the same cross border expressions and desires to influence extend to this day and election.   Clinton is the "right" choice for Canada, or so they think.   Most Americans do not vote for a president based on what Canada wants or FEARs.

[Derek 2.0]

18 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

given voice to those who wish to collectively raise their middle fingers to Washington and the status quo. 

 

And that's what its looking like.......This looks like a collective middle finger to the establishment by the American voters.

[eyeball]

It looks more similar to a collective expression of Guy Fawkes' sentiments.

[OftenWrong]

The Canada Immigration web site crashed last night due to an overwhelming number of hits from USA. Google servers had an uptick in searches, such that when you now type in "Can" on Google it immediately offers up "Canada immigration".

Seems to me evidence that it is Americans who truly fear Donald Trump... Big Time

[betsy]

On 2/24/2016 at 3:55 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

Just another election cycle in the USA, but this time there is a new wrinkle. Despite claims that American voters are supporting Trump (or Sanders) out of fear instead of anger and disillusionment, polling results "north of the border" suggest that the true source of any such "fear" actually comes from Canada.

Nearly two-in-three of Canadian voters surveyed — 65 percent — said they feared the very prospect of Donald Trump getting elected president of the United States, while 23 percent said they did not. The survey, conducted by Canadian polling firm Leger and sponsored by the newspapers Le Journal de Montréal and Le Devoir, also found majority support for Hillary Clinton becoming the 45th president.

 

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/does-canada-like-trump-219017

 

So why do polled Canadians, and by extension many other Canadians, FEAR Donald Trump's election campaign and possible U.S. term as president ?

What are the reasons for such FEAR compared to other candidates and previous presidents ?

Is the FEAR rational ?

What do fearful Canadians think a President Trump means to them or their lives across the border ?

Why are they so afraid ?

 

The spate of news after Trump's victory - showing worried Canadians reacting to Trump's victory -  vindicate your claim.  

  There must be hysteria in some quarters too, since the CBC even featured a cartoonist', "Keep Calm and Canadian On."

[eyeball]

23 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Seems to me evidence that it is Americans who truly fear Donald Trump... Big Time

Consider how Trump feels  - like the proverbial dog who actually caught a car was a suggestion that had me laughing.

[betsy]

My observation:

 

NATO and UN are scared.  If I'm not mistaken, USA foots 25% of the bill.....so, without the USA, that's a big chunk lost. 

 

Angela Merkel doesn't only looks scared......she looked stricken beside Obama, as he talked about Trump. We know what Trump thinks of her since he accused Hillary of wanting to be the Angela Merkel of America.

 

The first time that a nation's PM met with a president-elect instead of the current one still sitting.  Japan's reaction - prompt meeting - with Trump is already proof that Trump is making the world know and understand that the USA is still the world leader.  Respect is coming back.....and he's not even sitting yet.

 

Canadian media is scared.  Not only do they talk about Trump and the impact on our economy......but they also really covered the recent Cabinet picks of Trump, and they all talked about the "controversy" behind each pick.

 

Our PM acted scared.  He's announced he's willing to re-open the NAFTA negotiation even before he was officially asked to re-negotiate.

Edited November 19, 2016 by betsy

[Canadianjim]

On 2016-02-24 at 0:55 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

Just another election cycle in the USA, but this time there is a new wrinkle. Despite claims that American voters are supporting Trump (or Sanders) out of fear instead of anger and disillusionment, polling results "north of the border" suggest that the true source of any such "fear" actually comes from Canada.

Nearly two-in-three of Canadian voters surveyed — 65 percent — said they feared the very prospect of Donald Trump getting elected president of the United States, while 23 percent said they did not. The survey, conducted by Canadian polling firm Leger and sponsored by the newspapers Le Journal de Montréal and Le Devoir, also found majority support for Hillary Clinton becoming the 45th president.

 

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/does-canada-like-trump-219017

 

So why do polled Canadians, and by extension many other Canadians, FEAR Donald Trump's election campaign and possible U.S. term as president ?

What are the reasons for such FEAR compared to other candidates and previous presidents ?

Is the FEAR rational ?

What do fearful Canadians think a President Trump means to them or their lives across the border ?

Why are they so afraid ?

Fascism ... Read some history.

[bush_cheney2004]

37 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

Fascism ... Read some history.

 

So were Canadians equally FEARful of FDR ?   Or was his brand of fascism very much desired by Canadian interests ?

[Canadianjim]

31 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

So were Canadians equally FEARful of FDR ?   Or was his brand of fascism very much desired by Canadian interests ?

I wouldn't call it fearful since Canadians don't scare easily and give up their freedoms like you did after 911. Fascism as referred to nazism ,neo nazism etc... is always a concern. If you want to know the future you have to understand the past . There is a reason Canada  rates in the top 3 countries in the world for an educated citizenry and  America doesn't rate in the top 10. So of course we would have  a better understanding.

Dictionary

fas·cism

ˈfaSHˌizəm/

noun

noun: fascism; noun: Fascism; plural noun: Fascisms

1. an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
2. synonyms:        3    authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, autocracy; MoreNazism, rightism;
   nationalism, xenophobia, racism, anti-Semitism;
   jingoism, isolationism;
   neofascism, neo-Nazism
   "a film depicting the rise of fascism in the 1930s"
           4    
       
   • (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.
   •  

Edited December 18, 2016 by Canadianjim

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Canadianjim said:

I wouldn't call it fearful since Canadians don't scare easily and give up their freedoms like you did after 911. Facsism as referred to nazism ,neo nazism etc... is always a concern. If you want to know the future you have to understand the past . There is a reason Canada  rates in the top 3 countries in the world for an educated citizenry and  America doesn't rate in the top 10. So of course we would have  a better understanding.

 

In other words, you conveniently have no idea what brand of fascism was championed and enforced by FDR.  

Far more Canadians still go to the USA each year than do Americans to Canada, and the U.S. has 10X the population.    The future will be the same as the past....more Canadians emigrating to the U.S., more Canadians wintering in the U.S., and more Canadians working in the U.S., because there is far more opportunity in the United States.

Economics trumps FEAR.

[Canadianjim]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

In other words, you conveniently have no idea what brand of fascism was championed and enforced by FDR.  

Far more Canadians still go to the USA each year than do Americans to Canada, and the U.S. has 10X the population.    The future will be the same as the past....more Canadians emigrating to the U.S., more Canadians wintering in the U.S., and more Canadians working in the U.S., because there is far more opportunity in the United States.

Economics trumps FEAR.

I posted the dictionary definition. Yes Canadians winter in places like America, Cuba, etc.. . i noticed the militarization of your police force indicating a move to more authoritarianism.  Canada was declared the  No.1 country in the world for personal freedoms. America isn't even mentioned in the top 10 so i am sure you are happy and proud you lead the world in killing your children in schools. But thats the AMERKAN way. i get it.

[Canadianjim]

On 2016-11-08 at 1:24 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

It tells us that Americans voters today are the same as those who have voted before.  They even voted for Bill Clinton, who was eventually impeached.

Bill Clinton impeached for consensual sex. Meanwhile the Republicans elected the  speaker of the house that oversaw  the impeachment who was  Denis Hastert a republican pedophile that  molested little boys..  Now you might excuse the Gop for not knowing, however recently over  40 republican law makers wrote a letter to the judge asking for leniency for Hastert. And they were offended by consensual sex. The American republicans at their finest.

Edited December 18, 2016 by Canadianjim

[Canadianjim]

43 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

I posted the dictionary definition. Yes Canadians winter in places like America, Cuba, etc.. . i noticed the militarization of your police force indicating a move to more authoritarianism.  Canada was declared the  No.1 country in the world for personal freedoms. America isn't even mentioned in the top 10 so i am sure you are happy and proud you lead the world in killing your children in schools. But thats the AMERKAN way. i get it.

Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe, influenced by national syndicalism. Fascism originated in Italy during World War I and spread to other European countries. Fascism opposes liberalism, Marxism and anarchism and is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[3][4]

[bush_cheney2004]

1 hour ago, Canadianjim said:

I posted the dictionary definition. Yes Canadians winter in places like America, Cuba, etc.. . i noticed the militarization of your police force indicating a move to more authoritarianism.  Canada was declared the  No.1 country in the world for personal freedoms. America isn't even mentioned in the top 10 so i am sure you are happy and proud you lead the world in killing your children in schools. But thats the AMERKAN way. i get it.

 

Good, because there will always be those in KanaDuh who FEAR 'Murica.   They even define their identities that way.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 hour ago, Canadianjim said:

Bill Clinton impeached for consensual sex.

 

Nope....Bill Clinton was impeached for lying under oath in a federal court (perjury), and obstruction of justice.

[bush_cheney2004]

41 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe,

 

Study some more history....including FDR's brand of fascism.   Unlike in Europe, FDR was very successful with internments, confiscation, state controlled industry, racism, and alleged war crimes.   Canadians did not FEAR this brand of fascism because Canada was doing it as well and the Empire needed it.