Canadians FEAR Trump...Big Time

[BubberMiley]

The problem is they are dealing in a region of chaos, and it's a lot easier to say they should establish supports exclusively for the Christian people on the ground than to do it. Instead, they've tried to best serve as many needy people as they can without implementing a religion test to see if individuals are worthy of their help. It's a complicated situation and creating a religious hierarchy would complicate it further.

[betsy]

The problem is they are dealing in a region of chaos, and it's a lot easier to say they should establish supports exclusively for the Christian people on the ground than to do it. Instead, they've tried to best serve as many needy people as they can without implementing a religion test to see if individuals are worthy of their help. It's a complicated situation and creating a religious hierarchy would complicate it further.

Surely they can do better than that.

No room in America for Christian refugees

At the end of World War II, the Jewish survivors of Europe’s Holocaust found that nearly every door was closed to them. “Tell Me Where Can I Go?” was a popular Yiddish song at the time. Decades later, the Christians of the Middle East face the same problem, and the Obama administration is keeping the door shut.

Why? Because the Department of State is adhering with all the rigidity of a Soviet era bureaucracy to the rule that only people at risk from massacres launched by the regime qualify for refugee status. The rapes of Christian women and the butchery of Christian children do not count. No matter how moved Americans were this Christmas season by the plight of their fellow Christ followers in Syria and Iraq, no matter how horrific the visuals of beheadings, enslavement, and mass murder, the Christians fleeing death do not engender the compassion of this president.

The Christians are being raped, tortured, and murdered by militias, not by the Syrian government. This technicality condemns them to continue to be victims without hope. And this technicality is being adhered to with all the tenacity with which President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s State Department manipulated quotas and created subterfuges to keep out the Jews fleeing the oppression of Nazi Germany. Obama no more wants the Middle East’s Christian refugees than Roosevelt wanted Europe’s Jewish refugees.

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/228670-no-room-in-america-for-christian-refugees

I hope American Christians remember the obligation we have to our brothers and sisters, and apply pressure to have them be granted refuge.

Proverbs 24

¹⁰ If you falter in a time of trouble,

how small is your strength!

¹¹ Rescue those being led away to death;

hold back those staggering toward slaughter.

¹² If you say, “But we knew nothing about this,”

does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?

Does not he who guards your life know it?

Will he not repay everyone according to what they have done?

Edited March 29, 2016 by betsy

[BubberMiley]

Surely they can do better than that.

You think there should be a hierarchy where people of certain religions are singled out and given preferential treatment? That's really the only option to fix the problem.

[betsy]

You think there should be a hierarchy where people of certain religions are singled out and given preferential treatment? That's really the only option to fix the problem.

Christians are singled out for slaughter. They can't got to UN refugee camps because they're singled out even there, and are targetted for rapes and killings.

The question is: Who's slaughtering them?

CNN anchor clashes with Trump on Syrian Christians

WND searched the federal refugee database and found the facts are much closer to Trump’s position on the issue than Cuomo’s.

WND has further reported in previous articles that Christians are afraid to even show up in the United Nations refugee camps because they are targeted by Muslims in the camps for violent attacks and rapes. Most are hiding out in churches and at the homes of other Christians as they run from their Islamic persecutors.

This has been confirmed by sources on the ground through agencies such as Aid to the Church in Need, a Catholic aid group that works in Syria, and also by Lord George Carey, the former archbishop of Canterbury in England, WND reported.

The world’s largest U.N. refugee camp, Dadaab Camp in Kenya, is filled with some 300,000 Muslim Somali refugees.

The camp is known to be inhabited by many Islamic jihadists, and the president of Kenya, Uhuru Kenyatta, threatened to shut it down in April, as reported by the Washington Post. The camp is not only unsafe for Christians, but the Muslims in the camp are suspected of launching attacks in Kenya, including the attack on a university in April that killed 147 Christian students at a prayer meeting.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/cnn-anchor-clashes-with-trump-on-syrian-christians/#eWTEIKIBteUS4ata.99

Edited March 29, 2016 by betsy

[BubberMiley]

The question is: Who's slaughtering them?

ISIS.

[betsy]

ISIS.

So, you're saying refugee camps contain ISIS members.

How do we know the so-called refugees being vetted in by UN, aren't ISIS members posing as refugees?

Look at the refugee camp in Kenya. Infiltrated by Al-Shabab.

Based on your response....that supports the argument given by Trump that Muslims should be banned from entering the USA, "UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON."

Clearly you're saying, being vetted in by the UN, offers no guarantee that the USA isn't taking in jihadists.

Edited March 29, 2016 by betsy

[BubberMiley]

How would we know the so-called Christians you say should be let in are not ISIS members posing as Christians? Especially if you institute a preferential admission scheme.

Edited March 29, 2016 by BubberMiley

[Michael Hardner]

This is going too far off topic. Trump's anti-Muslim-immigration stance is but one aspect of his policies that are posited as being 'feared' in this thread. What are others ?

[cybercoma]

Who cares? The entire premise of the thread is faulty as I showed earlier with reference to the original poll that was misinterpreted for the purpose of trolling. Let the thread burn like the pile of crap that it is.

[BubberMiley]

This is a tread about why Canadians think Trump is scary. A major reason why people think Trump is scary is his immigration stance and his refugee policy. That's too "off topic" now so we should find another scary thing to talk about? How about his open discussion of his penis? Perfect! I find Trump's discussion of his penis very disturbing for a potential world leader. What do you think of Trump's penis?

[betsy]

This is going too far off topic. Trump's anti-Muslim-immigration stance is but one aspect of his policies that are posited as being 'feared' in this thread. What are others ?

The Wall between the US-Mexico border, is another one I could think of....although I wonder if Canadians actually fear this? The topic does refer to Canadians' fear, so since I'm pro-Trump - I actually don't know exactly what Canadians fear.

Perhaps if someone can clarify this.

Edited March 29, 2016 by betsy

[Topaz]

Well, there's some one OR a group of people that fear Trump because someone spent a lot of money to place his tombstone in New York. As article says, it has to be someone with a lot of money, so lets say, some of the elites are wanting him dead, or at least , sending him another death threat. My guess, its the Clintons, the GOP and the very rich elite or anyone else that would benefit, if he died and opened up the road to the White House. I wonder what poor soul would be brainwashed into doing for THEM, like in the past. http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/mysterious-donald-trump-tombstone-pops-up-in-central-park/ar-BBr3rkh?li=AAggFp5&ocid=SK2MDHP

[betsy]

This is a tread about why Canadians think Trump is scary. A major reason why people think Trump is scary is his immigration stance and his refugee policy. That's too "off topic" now so we should find another scary thing to talk about? How about his open discussion of his penis? Perfect! I find Trump's discussion of his penis very disturbing for a potential world leader. What do you think of Trump's penis?

Did he actually say his "penis?" What's the exact quote on that?

Anyway, why should referral to anatomy be scary? Children in school are talking about vaginas and penises......

[betsy]

Well, there's some one OR a group of people that fear Trump because someone spent a lot of money to place his tombstone in New York. As article says, it has to be someone with a lot of money, so lets say, some of the elites are wanting him dead, or at least , sending him another death threat. My guess, its the Clintons, the GOP and the very rich elite or anyone else that would benefit, if he died and opened up the road to the White House. I wonder what poor soul would be brainwashed into doing for THEM, like in the past. http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/mysterious-donald-trump-tombstone-pops-up-in-central-park/ar-BBr3rkh?li=AAggFp5&ocid=SK2MDHP

That could be translated as a call, or an instigation for his assassination.

Edited March 29, 2016 by betsy

[Big Guy]

I read in a recent newspaper:

There are about 300,000,000 people in the United States.

It is generally accepted that about 5% of any society suffers from mental problems.

That means that there are about 15,000,000 people in the United States with mental problems.

There are about 400,000,000 guns in the United States.

This means that ...

[BubberMiley]

Did he actually say his "penis?" What's the exact quote on that?

Anyway, why should referral to anatomy be scary? Children in school are talking about vaginas and penises......

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/donald-trump-small-hands-marco-rubio/

[Guest]

Trump’s communications director Stephanie Cegielski has officially resigned from the campaign and penned an open letter to those who support him explaining exactly what the campaign was supposed to be and how absurd it has become.

The goal was to run a strong, second place protest candidacy that would convince the establishment that the American people were tired of the status quo and ruffle some feathers for the good of the country. The problem became that Trump’s racism and xenophobic rhetoric became popular with the low-hanging fruit of America and the stupid began coming out in droves to support him.

Stephanie's open letter can be found here: http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

Some excerpts:

He certainly was never prepared or equipped to go all the way to the White House, but his ego has now taken over the driver's seat, and nothing else matters. The Donald does not fail. The Donald does not have any weakness. The Donald is his own biggest enemy.

What was once Trump's desire to rank second place to send a message to America and to increase his power as a businessman has nightmarishly morphed into a charade that is poised to do irreparable damage to this country if we do not stop this campaign in its tracks.

I'll say it again: Trump never intended to be the candidate. But his pride is too out of control to stop him now.

You can give Trump the biggest gift possible if you are a Trump supporter: stop supporting him.

[betsy]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/donald-trump-small-hands-marco-rubio/

Well, I mean.....it's not gross as I assumed it is (based on what you've said about his penis).

It was Rubio who made a crude referral (otherwise why would he apologise for it?) , and I think the Donald answered with risque humour. He didn't actually mention his penis!

You just read between the lines.....it could be a referral to his brain for all we know.

Edited March 29, 2016 by betsy

[BubberMiley]

Speaking of how frightening he is, this one stood out: "The man does not know policy, nor does he have the humility to admit what he does not know — the most frightening position of all."

[betsy]

Trump’s communications director Stephanie Cegielski has officially resigned from the campaign and penned an open letter to those who support him explaining exactly what the campaign was supposed to be and how absurd it has become.

The goal was to run a strong, second place protest candidacy that would convince the establishment that the American people were tired of the status quo and ruffle some feathers for the good of the country. The problem became that Trump’s racism and xenophobic rhetoric became popular with the low-hanging fruit of America and the stupid began coming out in droves to support him.

Stephanie's open letter can be found here: http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

Some excerpts:

He certainly was never prepared or equipped to go all the way to the White House, but his ego has now taken over the driver's seat, and nothing else matters. The Donald does not fail. The Donald does not have any weakness. The Donald is his own biggest enemy.

What was once Trump's desire to rank second place to send a message to America and to increase his power as a businessman has nightmarishly morphed into a charade that is poised to do irreparable damage to this country if we do not stop this campaign in its tracks.

I'll say it again: Trump never intended to be the candidate. But his pride is too out of control to stop him now.

You can give Trump the biggest gift possible if you are a Trump supporter: stop supporting him.

I can't find much about that woman other than that news now. I found this, however: HOPE HICKS

The only young woman in Donald Trump’s inner political circle sits a few feet away from him on his private jet, head down, working on a laptop.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2015/07/27/hope-hicks-flies-quietly-in-the-eye-of-the-trump-storm/

The article doesn't imply Trump never intended to end up in the White House.

Perhaps, Cegielski was never among those in the inner circle, and wasn't exactly given the whole picture.

She said:

Almost a year ago, recruited for my public relations and public policy expertise, I sat in Trump Tower being told that the goal was to get The Donald to poll in double digits and come in second in delegate count. That was it.

Perhaps, that's all what she was told. That's the extent of her role.

Edited March 29, 2016 by betsy

[Guest]

The article doesn't imply Trump never intended to end up in the White House.

Perhaps, Cegielski was never among those in the inner circle, and wasn't exactly given the whole picture.

Perhaps, that's all what she was told. That's the extent of her role.

Or perhaps she is telling the truth. Trump's campaign would certainly say otherwise, but then again Trump is far and away the least honest candidate according to Politifact. I'd suggest that Ms. Hicks does the talking for Trump though as campaign manager Corey Lewandowski has already been charged with assaulting a reporter, an act which was witnessed by others.

I suppose it's hard to know who to trust when all involved are fundamentally dishonest. What a winner of a candidate. So much winning. They win so much they must get tired of all the winning. People love Trump and all the winning. People come up to him and say 'Donald how do you win so much?'

Edited March 29, 2016 by Guest

[betsy]

Or perhaps she is telling the truth. Trump's campaign would certainly say otherwise, but then again Trump is far and away the least honest candidate according to Politifact. I'd suggest that Ms. Hicks does the talking for Trump though as campaign manager Corey Lewandowski has already been charged with assaulting a reporter, an act which was witnessed by others.

I suppose it's hard to know who to trust when all involved are fundamentally dishonest. What a winner of a candidate. So much winning. They win so much they must get tired of all the winning. People love Trump and all the winning. People come up to him and say 'Donald how do you win so much?'

Political sabotage is part of strategy now in politicking. Infiltration is part of it.

I find it too down pat that Cegielkski would quit over the remarks of Trump that, "I alone can solve it." He's said more outrageous and sensational statement than that.

As for honesty....I can't say which candidate is by far the most dishonest, or the ugliest. Clinton was rumored to be involved in a murder conspiracy:

In real life, Vince Foster was distraught at the prospect of being grilled about the shady affairs of Hillary Clinton.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-508210/The-man-knew-The-truth-death-Hillary-Clintons-close-friend-Vince-Foster.html#ixzz44JYZOLTh

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Then, there was Benghazi.

Such is politics this days that you just can't take the media at face value, either. Definitely, not the media.

(Fields subsequently resigned from Breitbart after editors refused to back her.)

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/corey-lewandowski-arrested/475827/

Edited March 29, 2016 by betsy

[Argus]

Ha!

Claim that Trump is a successful businessman and that's just a ok.

But challenge the lies behind such a claim and show that he is as much of a "loser" as he likes to call other people losers and it becomes "so what [if he's a loser]".

Look, I don't find bankruptcies impressive either. But there's really no way to dispute he's a successful businessman.

[Argus]

I like the platform of Trump! Especially what he promises to do for Christians and Christianity!

Letting churches engage in political activities while still retaining charitable status is not going to 'empower' Christians. It's just going to confuse them.

Edited March 30, 2016 by Argus

[TimG]

Look, I don't find bankruptcies impressive either. But there's really no way to dispute he's a successful businessman.

If he invested his inheritance in the S&P index in the 1970s he would have more than he has today. I would say he is a mediocre businessman who did not blow his entire inheritance but should been able to do better given the risks he took.