Canadians FEAR Trump...Big Time

[bush_cheney2004]

It is? Didn't you just post that Canadians were concerned about Obama's rhetoric? Are you failing to realize the problems with Trump aren't limited to a single position but rather the entirety of his campaig thus far?

Thank you for agreeing than anti-NAFTA/TPP campaign rhetoric is not sufficient grounds for FEARING Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton has also flip-flopped on the TPP.

[GostHacked]

Me too. But only for the entertainment value.

That's all the US is good these days. for well that and war. Their elections are a complete joke!

[?Impact]

It seem not only Canadians fear trump, the Republican National Committee fear him as well: We believe that Donald Trump's divisiveness, recklessness, incompetence, and record-breaking unpopularity risk turning this election into a Democratic landslide, and only the immediate shift of all available RNC resources to vulnerable Senate and House races will prevent the GOP from drowning with a Trump-emblazoned anchor around its neck.

[WestCoastRunner]

It seem not only Canadians fear trump, the Republican National Committee fear him as well: We believe that Donald Trump's divisiveness, recklessness, incompetence, and record-breaking unpopularity risk turning this election into a Democratic landslide, and only the immediate shift of all available RNC resources to vulnerable Senate and House races will prevent the GOP from drowning with a Trump-emblazoned anchor around its neck.

Not only them. Experts worry Trump's war on American's Democratic Institutions could do long term damage:

“This is not just excessive rhetoric, or a bloviating ignoramus who happens to be a presidential candidate and is upset because he can’t understand how possibly he could be losing. This is a real threat to the fabric of the political system and the republic,” said Norman Ornstein, a prominent scholar at the conservative American Enterprise Institute."

"Trump’s critics worry that the Republican presidential nominee is doing long-term damage to the credibility of entities essential to the country’s democratic health. More pressingly, they fear that he is signalling a desire to undermine critical checks and balances in pursuit of autocratic leadership if he wins the presidency in November."

“When he’s trying to discredit every single guidepost, every single standard, he’s not just an authoritarian, he’s a postmodern authoritarian: he not only has these authoritarian tendencies, but he really wants to shape reality to his own agenda,” said Charlie Sykes, a conservative Wisconsin talk radio host. “He wants to break down all of these possible credible authorities that might challenge him. And that’s what’s sort of genuinely creepy about him.”

[bush_cheney2004]

Donald Trump has been so destructive to the party, more voters went to the Republican primaries than in 2012 or 2008:

The GOP did indeed have the highest primary turnout since at least 1980, according to our analysis – 14.8%, compared with 11% in 2008 and 9.8% in 2012.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/06/10/turnout-was-high-in-the-2016-primary-season-but-just-short-of-2008-record/

[dialamah]

Donald Trump has been so destructive to the party, more voters went to the Republican primaries than in 2012 or 2008:

The GOP did indeed have the highest primary turnout since at least 1980, according to our analysis – 14.8%, compared with 11% in 2008 and 9.8% in 2012.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/06/10/turnout-was-high-in-the-2016-primary-season-but-just-short-of-2008-record/

Damage to any process is usually done by ignorance, rather than maliciousness.

[bush_cheney2004]

Damage to any process is usually done by ignorance, rather than maliciousness.

If higher voter turnout improves "democracy", then Trump has improved the "process". Does Canadian FEAR include higher voter turnout in another country ?

[?Impact]

then Trump has improved the "process"

Yes, higher voter turnout is a good thing. Characterizing it as a Trump victory however is the same as the example given the other day of cheering Trump's action plan on homelessness (more Soylent Green).

[bush_cheney2004]

Canadian tech firms and mayors hope that Trump FEAR will reverse the large "brain drain" to the United States. Something tells me it will take a lot more than Donald Trump to scare 300,000 tech workers back to Canada's low loonie, higher prices, and scarce opportunities. Canada is far scarier to high skilled tech talent.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/video/canada-using-trump-fears-poach-182225402.html

Edited August 29, 2016 by bush_cheney2004

[WestCoastRunner]

Canadian tech firms and mayors hope that Trump FEAR will reverse the large "brain drain" to the United States. Something tells me it will take a lot more than Donald Trump to scare 300,000 tech workers back to Canada's low loonie, higher prices, and scarce opportunities. Canada is far scarier to high skilled tech talent.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/video/canada-using-trump-fears-poach-182225402.html

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What?? Where's your Canadian source?

[bush_cheney2004]

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What?? Where's your Canadian source?

It moved to the U.S., just like so many Canadian tech workers. Maybe Trump FEAR will scare them back across the border.

[WestCoastRunner]

It moved to the U.S., just like so many Canadian tech workers. Maybe Trump FEAR will scare them back across the border.

Where's your American source?

[bush_cheney2004]

Where's your American source?

Bloomberg is American. Even when it is possible to find a Canadian source, it often just links back to an American feed.

[WestCoastRunner]

Bloomberg is American. Even when it is possible to find a Canadian source, it often just links back to an American feed.

But you had to go all the way to the UK. And it's a video. The US is slacking off.

[?Impact]

Bloomberg is American.

Yes, unlike Donald Trump, Michael Bloomberg is an excellent example of an American (from New York city) becoming a great business and political success. Here is what he had to say about Trump: "He has run the most divisive and demagogic presidential campaign I can remember, preying on people’s prejudices and fears. Abraham Lincoln, the father of the Republican Party, appealed to our ’better angels.’ Trump appeals to our worst impulses.”

Edited August 31, 2016 by ?Impact

[bush_cheney2004]

Yes, unlike Donald Trump, Michael Bloomberg is an excellent example of an American (from New York city) becoming a great business and political success.

And yet, Mr. Bloomberg does not have his name atop tall buildings in Canadian cities.

[?Impact]

And yet, Mr. Bloomberg does not have his name atop tall buildings in Canadian cities.

And yet, Mr. Bloomberg does not have his name atop tall buildings in Canadian cities.

Bloomberg is well known on Bay street, he doesn't have to satiate his ego.

[bush_cheney2004]

Bloomberg is well known on Bay street, he doesn't have to satiate his ego.

Of course...he is just another rich American like Trump. Their capital is always welcomed in Canada.

[?Impact]

Of course...he is just another rich American like Trump. Their capital is always welcomed in Canada.

Wrong on all counts.

Bloomberg sees Canada as a market, and has been very successful here selling his wares. He has not made any significant capital investments in Canada. He has a product that provides value, unlike Trump.

Trump also does not invest in Canada, he just sold his name to Val Levitan and Alex Shnaider, both Russian-Canadian businessmen who put up the capital.

Edited September 1, 2016 by ?Impact

[bush_cheney2004]

.... he just sold his name to Val Levitan and Alex Shnaider, both Russian-Canadian businessmen who put up the capital.

So why don't those patriotic Russian-Canadian names adorn the towers instead ? Because the Trump brand and luxury management team can do it better than the Russians ? I guess the monied fat cats in Canada don't fear Trump so much after all.

https://www.trumphotelcollection.com/international-hotel-collection.php

[bush_cheney2004]

The CBC still has the anti-Trump campaign cranked up to "11". Here is the latest reason to FEAR Donald Trump:

...But when it comes to trade, Canadians better take notice of what the Republican nominee is saying. It goes beyond the singular scapegoating of Mexico, which has been the staple of the Trump campaign.

Mexico is the U.S.'s second-largest trading partner. Canada, of course, is No. 1. And even if this country isn't always on the tip of Trump's tongue, it's very much at the back of his mind.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-canada-trade-nafta-1.3744994

Trump is right...scrap NAFTA and start over. Oh...somebody tell the CBC that China is now the #1 U.S. trading partner (because of the Canadian peso and oil exports).

[?Impact]

Oh...somebody tell the CBC that China is now the #1 U.S. trading partner (because of the Canadian peso and oil exports).

In total trade, Canada is still #1 but you are right that China is very close and will probably overtake Canada next year. The difference is however Canada/US trade is bi-lateral with about 50% imports and 50% exports. With China the trade is 20% exports to 80% imports. Even Mexico (#3 trading partner) is much closer to bi-lateral trade than China (about 42% exports).

[bush_cheney2004]

In total trade, Canada is still #1 but you are right that China is very close and will probably overtake Canada next year. The difference is however Canada/US trade is bi-lateral with about 50% imports and 50% exports. With China the trade is 20% exports to 80% imports. Even Mexico (#3 trading partner) is much closer to bi-lateral trade than China (about 42% exports).

Nope...China is now #1 because of low CAD and oil exports.

The total value of trade in goods between the US and China reached $441.6 billion in the first nine months of this year, surpassing Canada for the first time in history.

http://qz.com/544496/china-has-passed-canada-as-the-biggest-us-trading-partner-thanks-to-oil-prices/

Canada can no longer assume it will always have trade preferences with the world's largest economy, especially if NAFTA is scrapped. No wonder Trudeau whines so much about how it is "so important to us", even as he makes deals in China.

China is the future....Canada is the past.

Edited September 2, 2016 by bush_cheney2004

[?Impact]

Canada can no longer assume it will always have trade preferences with the world's largest economy, especially if NAFTA is scrapped.

Again you totally ignore the fact that Chain represents 7% of American exports while Canada represents 19% of American exports. Bleeding hundreds of billion in trade deficits to China is your idea of something good?

[bush_cheney2004]

Again you totally ignore the fact that Chain represents 7% of American exports while Canada represents 19% of American exports. Bleeding hundreds of billion in trade deficits to China is your idea of something good?

Yes, as China and other so called "emerging" markets have far more trade upside than mature markets in Canada....that is where real growth can come from. GM already sells more cars in China than in Canada. Even Trudeau understands this as he tries to establish more trade with China.

China also is the largest foreign owner of U.S. national debt at about 8%, something that Canada is incapable of doing.

Edited September 4, 2016 by bush_cheney2004