Donald vs Hillary

bush_cheney2004 · October 20, 2016

8 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

Just think, I we had Gore as President we won't have Iraq, ISIS, largest recession since the Great depression, and the fallout from them like Libya and Syria.

"We" ? Clinton and Gore bombed and invaded Iraq years before George Bush.

Wilber · October 20, 2016

1 hour ago, cybercoma said:

I'm not going to call you a liar. I will just correct you and point out that Trump said he had never met Putin. His exact words were, "I dont know Putin. I have no idea . . . I never met Putin. This is not my best friend." You can see that in the video HERE. You are so biased toward Trump that you will literally ignore the things he says (or deliberately lie, which I honestly doubt you're doing).

One day Trump says he knows Putin, the next day he says he's never met Putin. He says whatever he thinks will work best at that minute. Who the hell knows if he ever met Putin.

?Impact · October 20, 2016

12 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

"We" ? Clinton and Gore bombed and invaded Iraq years before George Bush.

True that, but it didn't lead to destabilization and rise of ISIS. Even earlier daddy Bush also bombed Iraq.

?Impact · October 20, 2016

This just keeps getting better and better. It appears that Trump funded the project Veritas video that has been circulating the past few days through his Trump Foundation.

bush_cheney2004 · October 20, 2016

1 hour ago, ?Impact said:

True that, but it didn't lead to destabilization and rise of ISIS. Even earlier daddy Bush also bombed Iraq.

Good thing "we" (wink wink) got Libya and Syria instead with Hillary Clinton's experience and leadership.

WestCoastRunner · October 20, 2016

Trump has made it abundantly clear how misogynistic he is when he called Hillary 'A nasty woman'. I guarantee that just about every woman I know can immediately relate to that comment and hopefully turned some of his base female voters off.

?Impact · October 20, 2016

8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Good thing "we" (wink wink) got Libya and Syria instead with Hillary Clinton's experience and leadership.

I'm not sure how much of Syria is hers but yes she has to wear Libya.

bush_cheney2004 · October 20, 2016

17 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

I'm not sure how much of Syria is hers but yes she has to wear Libya.

Hillary Clinton will continue to exalt and execute the "primacy of American foreign policy", just as her husband and other much hated "neoconservatives" have done.

It is remarkable to read so many American (and Canadian) liberals and progressives embrace her in the role of POTUS.

?Impact · October 21, 2016

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

It is remarkable to read so many American (and Canadian) liberals and progressives embrace her in the role of POTUS.

Really, could you point me to one of them?

bush_cheney2004 · October 21, 2016

17 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

Really, could you point me to one of them?

Here is one poll....Canadians pretending to vote in the election:

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/hillary-clinton-would-earn-a-record-landslide-victory-if-canadians-were-casting-the-ballots

?Impact · October 21, 2016

3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Here is one poll

That is over a year old, and I don't see any gushing. When faced with two bad choices, pick the least bad one. I am surprised Jeb Bush did so poorly, I think that has more to do with big bro than anything.

bush_cheney2004 · October 21, 2016

3 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

That is over a year old, and I don't see any gushing. When faced with two bad choices, pick the least bad one. I am surprised Jeb Bush did so poorly, I think that has more to do with big bro than anything.

75% for Clinton is most certainly gushing....that's more "support" than for Justin Trudeau. Two bad choices means making a third choice or none at all.

?Impact · October 21, 2016

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Two bad choices means making a third choice or none at all.

Doesn't sound like they were offered that option. Besides how many Americans, let alone Canadians have any idea who Stein or Johnson are? Now roll back the clock 16 months and answer that question again. None at all is not an option, no matter how much we would like it to be.

I bet you that a significant percentage of Canadians don't even know that other options exist. Most would probably think that you can only have Republicans or Democrats, kind of like a Communist state but with two parties instead of one. For most practical purposes of course they are right. I would be surprised if I couldn't count on one hand the number of third party representatives in federal politics during my lifetime, and I bet the majority of those switched to and/or from one of the two parties anyway. Bernie Sanders is a Democrat, is he not?

bush_cheney2004 · October 21, 2016

Just now, ?Impact said:

I bet you that a significant percentage of Canadians don't even know that other options exist. Most would probably think that you can only have Republicans or Democrats, kind of like a Communist state but with two parties instead of one. For most practical purposes of course they are right. I would be surprised if I couldn't count on one hand the number of third party representatives in federal politics during my lifetime, and I bet the majority of those switched to and/or from one of the two parties anyway.

That doesn't make any sense given the multiple parties in Canada, including a Green Party which gets minimal seats each election. Certainly Canadians with dual citizenship who vote in U.S. elections would know who is on the ballot. Ross Perot got 18% of the vote in 1992.

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Bernie Sanders is a Democrat, is he not?

Bernie Sanders is the longest serving independent in U.S. congressional history.

?Impact · October 21, 2016

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

That doesn't make any sense given the multiple parties in Canada, including a Green Party which gets minimal seats each election. Certainly Canadians with dual citizenship who vote in U.S. elections would know who is on the ballot. Ross Perot got 18% of the vote in 1992.

Bernie Sanders is the longest serving independent in U.S. congressional history.

I asid a significant percentage, not all. Perhaps half or more though. Yes, Perot, wasn't he that rich guy that ran against Clinton? Must be a Republican like Romney & Trump. What do you mean Bush, wasn't he the outgoing President? You guys have term limits so he wasn't running, was he?

Sanders was? But I remember hm running against Clinton in the primaries so that makes him a Democrat doesn't it?

bush_cheney2004 · October 21, 2016

10 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

I asid a significant percentage, not all. Perhaps half or more though. Yes, Perot, wasn't he that rich guy that ran against Clinton? Must be a Republican like Romney & Trump. What do you mean Bush, wasn't he the outgoing President? You guys have term limits so he wasn't running, was he?

The 1968 and 1992 elections demonstrated the significant percentage impact on the outcome by third parties. One could argue for the same with 2000 (Buchannan and Nader). Perot was the Reform Party candidate in 1996 and ran as an independent in 1992.

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Sanders was? But I remember hm running against Clinton in the primaries so that makes him a Democrat doesn't it?

No...he can affiliate with any party as an independent, even in Congress.

Edited October 21, 2016 by bush_cheney2004

The_Squid · October 21, 2016

How many electoral college votes did Perot get when he ran?

cybercoma · October 21, 2016

7 minutes ago, The_Squid said:

How many electoral college votes did Perot get when he ran?

But the electoral college doesn't matter....except when Al Gore won the popular vote...then the electoral college matters.

Hal 9000 · October 21, 2016

3 hours ago, WestCoastRunner said:

Trump has made it abundantly clear how misogynistic he is when he called Hillary 'A nasty woman'. I guarantee that just about every woman I know can immediately relate to that comment and hopefully turned some of his base female voters off.

If any woman chooses to not vote Trump because of that comment, it should be embarrassing for them. It only serves to show their immaturity and hypocrisy.

taxme · October 21, 2016

On 10/19/2016 at 6:07 PM, The_Squid said:

Do any of them have names? Name a couple!! Or is this just a boogeyman?

How about the Rothchilds and Rockerfellers for starters. Those two are really scary globalist elites.

taxme · October 21, 2016

4 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

If any woman chooses to not vote Trump because of that comment, it should be embarrassing for them. It only serves to show their immaturity and hypocrisy.

Trump called her a nasty woman for a reason. Some of her staff and security detail can tell you all about it. She is a miserable bi-ch behind the scenes. She has a very bad temper.

BubberMiley · October 21, 2016

15 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

If any woman chooses to not vote Trump because of that comment, it should be embarrassing for them. It only serves to show their immaturity and hypocrisy.

I'm sure it wouldn't be just for that reason. The perpetual lying probably has something to do with it too.

The_Squid · October 21, 2016

12 minutes ago, taxme said:

How about the Rothchilds and Rockerfellers for starters. Those two are really scary globalist elites.

The 1920's called..... they want their famous families back!

taxme · October 21, 2016

4 minutes ago, The_Squid said:

The 1920's called..... they want their famous families back!

Good, send them back. Works for me.

The_Squid · October 21, 2016

23 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

If any woman chooses to not vote Trump because of that comment, it should be embarrassing for them. It only serves to show their immaturity and hypocrisy.

Yeah.... that's the only reason why women might take exception to Trump... . :rolleyes: