Donald vs Hillary

On Guard for Thee · January 23, 2016

Yeah, that's it. The Left HATES her because she's "self-made." This forum provides so much keen insight, it blows my mind.

Yep, "self-made" AND, she is positioned to keep an eye on Russia. Too bad Pallin ran into Katie Couric, a smart self made woman.

Wilber · January 23, 2016

Speaking of smart self made women, how about Tina Fey.

On Guard for Thee · January 24, 2016

Speaking of smart self made women, how about Tina Fey.

She should run. Some humor, some smarts, I'd vote for her if I could.

Hal 9000 · January 24, 2016

Yep, "self-made" AND, she is positioned to keep an eye on Russia. Too bad Pallin ran into Katie Couric, a smart self made woman.

The fact that you don't understand the context of that comment says more about you than it does her.

On Guard for Thee · January 24, 2016

The fact that you don't understand the context of that comment says more about you than it does her.

Oh believe me, the context of her statement says a lot more about her than it does about me. But that she hooked up with Trump is sort of congruent in that they each make equally ridiculous ones.

Here are a few more in case you missed/neglected the wacky humor generated by Sarah at her "endorsement" speech.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/us/politics/sarah-palin-endorsement-speech-donald-trump.html?_r=1

Edited January 24, 2016 by On Guard for Thee

Hal 9000 · January 24, 2016

Oh believe me, the context of her statement says a lot more about her than it does about me. But that she hooked up with Trump is sort of congruent in that they each make equally ridiculous ones.

OK, explain it to me!

On Guard for Thee · January 24, 2016

OK, explain it to me!

Well if you look at a map, you will see Alaska is close to Russia. Apparently Sarah can see it from where she lives in Alaska. Beyond that it's pretty tough to explain a lot of what she says. Often because she seems incoherent.

Hal 9000 · January 24, 2016

Well if you look at a map, you will see Alaska is close to Russia. Apparently Sarah can see it from where she lives in Alaska. Beyond that it's pretty tough to explain a lot of what she says. Often because she seems incoherent.

Exactly, just as I thought, you didn't understand the significance!

On Guard for Thee · January 24, 2016

Exactly, just as I thought, you didn't understand the significance!

And apparently you don't get the joke, but hey, you are free to support whoever you wish. Regardless how stupid they sound.

GostHacked · January 24, 2016

Exactly, just as I thought, you didn't understand the significance!

She thinks by being in that kind of proximity to Russia she would be the perfect candidate to deal with Russia. She can't even deal with her own family's dumb happenings. I guess she is not even sure of the context she is trying to use when she lets words out of her mouth.

Wilber · January 24, 2016

She thinks by being in that kind of proximity to Russia she would be the perfect candidate to deal with Russia. She can't even deal with her own family's dumb happenings. I guess she is not even sure of the context she is trying to use when she lets words out of her mouth.

I've been to Wasilla, it's over 600 miles from Russia with a few mountain ranges and some ocean in between.

Edited January 24, 2016 by Wilber

Hal 9000 · January 24, 2016

She thinks by being in that kind of proximity to Russia she would be the perfect candidate to deal with Russia. She can't even deal with her own family's dumb happenings. I guess she is not even sure of the context she is trying to use when she lets words out of her mouth.

Wrong!

On Guard for Thee · January 24, 2016

She thinks by being in that kind of proximity to Russia she would be the perfect candidate to deal with Russia. She can't even deal with her own family's dumb happenings. I guess she is not even sure of the context she is trying to use when she lets words out of her mouth.

She even went as far in her speech to try and blame her sons latest round of alleged domestic violence on Obama. Now there's a stretch.

August1991 · January 25, 2016

I would pick Trump over Hillary. He's actually accomplished, unlike her. He's a builder. He deals with every level of government on a regular basis getting things done.

Shady, in a choice between these two, I suspect many Americans would reckon like you. But Gawd knows.

August1991 · February 25, 2016

(Bump.)

After Nevada, and given the unlikelihood of either Cruz/Rubio resigning/working together (as if that would matter), and given Super Tuesday, it looks like Trump will be the Republican candidate.

On the Democrat side, I just don't see Sanders winning now. He doesn't have super-delegates but worse, he didn't win SC or Nevada. True, he did very well - but he didn't slay the dragon. It looks like Rodham-Clinton will be the Democrat's candidate.

So. among these two, who wins?

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Weirdest US election cycle ever, even with 1968. Will there be a third candidate -Perot, Wallace?

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I'm beginning to think that Scott Adams is right about November 2016: Trump will win in a very large landslide, even making California and NY Red Republican.

August1991 · February 25, 2016

I am sure that Trump would be more than happy to appease the party with any flunky of its choosing for the bottom of the ticket. JFK only tolerated LBJ because of electoral college math, preferring Stuart Symington instead.

According to Scott Adams, Trump is more likely to pick someone who would show voters that Trump can be controlled.

For example, Mark Cuban. (Check Wikipedia... Neat.)

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The US Constitution is a remarkable document. Some 250 years later, it still ensures a civilised State - regardless which bozo negotiates/manages/takes State power. And the US Constitution imagined/foresaw all this without the simpler expedient of deciding the bozo by birth.

Imagine.

jacee · February 25, 2016

unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency

Go Sanders! :-)

What can I say ... It makes sense.

Clinton and Trump are both elitists, he moreso than her.

Only Sanders really distinguishes himself.

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Edited February 25, 2016 by jacee

jacee · February 25, 2016

I've been to Wasilla, it's over 600 miles from Russia with a few mountain ranges and some ocean in between.

What?!

You mean she can't really "see Russia"?!

Shocking!

A-hahahahahahahaha!

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Edited February 25, 2016 by jacee

BC_chick · February 26, 2016

... he didn't win SC or Nevada.

I know he's not polling well, but fyi, SC Democratic primaries are tomorrow. He hasn't lost... yet.

August1991 · February 27, 2016

unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency

Go Sanders! :-)

What can I say ... It makes sense.

Clinton and Trump are both elitists, he moreso than her.

Only Sanders really distinguishes himself.

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So Jacee, your criteria for a candidate is whether she/he is elitist or not? Well, how do you feel about Justin Trudeau? Or even his father Pierre? In the Quebec context, both belonged to a very privileged elite. And Sanders? Sanders had the tremendous benefit of two poor parents who hectored/encouraged him to focus and succeed.

So perhaps I have different view of "privilege" than you.

IMHO, Bill Clinton came from a very ordinary, even difficult, background. Like Obama.

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Frankly, I don't think we should pick political leaders according to their elitism/privilege at birth - or their lack of elitism. I'm a republican but I accept that some monarchs born into, uh, privilege - may be good leaders. I accept that a smart woman with every advantage in life can also be a good leader: for example, I think Margaret Thatcher was a good PM.

Edited February 27, 2016 by August1991

jacee · February 28, 2016

So Jacee, your criteria for a candidate is whether she/he is elitist or not? Well, how do you feel about Justin Trudeau? Or even his father Pierre? In the Quebec context, both belonged to a very privileged elite. And Sanders? Sanders had the tremendous benefit of two poor parents who hectored/encouraged him to focus and succeed.

So perhaps I have different view of "privilege" than you.

IMHO, Bill Clinton came from a very ordinary, even difficult, background. Like Obama.

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Frankly, I don't think we should pick political leaders according to their elitism/privilege at birth - or their lack of elitism. I'm a republican but I accept that some monarchs born into, uh, privilege - may be good leaders. I accept that a smart woman with every advantage in life can also be a good leader: for example, I think Margaret Thatcher was a good PM.

Elitism is an attitude.

Trump is a stupid and dangerous idiot.

Hilary is an elitist who stands for status quo corporatism.

Justin is fast learning that he does too. Lol

These are just my opinions of course.

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August1991 · February 29, 2016

Elitism is an attitude.

WTF? Jacee, you entirely miss my point.

By every measure, Winston Churchill (and Pierre Trudeau, Trudeau Snr) were elitists. And yet both made changes in society.

For a full year: June 1940 to June 1941, ordinary people in Britain were all alone facing Hitler's regime. These British people had the benefit of a good leader.

Edited March 3, 2016 by August1991

August1991 · February 29, 2016

Trump is a stupid and dangerous idiot.

Trump is neither stupid nor an idiot.

I'll agree that Trump is different; but then a president with a Kenyan family name is also different.

Edited February 29, 2016 by August1991

jacee · March 1, 2016

WTF? Jacee, you entirely miss my point.By every measure, Winston Churchill (and Pierre Trudeau) were elitists. And yet both made changes in society.For a full year: June 1940 to June 1941, ordinary people in Britain were all alone facing Hitler's regime. These British people had the benefit of a good leader.

We're talking about Donald and Hilary.

Trump is a pig.

Hilary is an elitist.

Those are my opinions.

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Wilber · March 2, 2016

Hillary is the elitist even though aside from her legal career and stint as Secretary of State, most of her accomplishments have concerned family issues, but Donald was the one born with the silver spoon in his mouth.

I agree though, he is a pig.