Donald vs Hillary

Argus · August 14, 2016

Comparison Chart

Here is a link to the Politifact site: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/lists/people/fact-checking-2016-gop-presidential-candidates/

Why, don't you realize that is simply lies from the zionist elite mainstream media? :rolleyes:

?Impact · August 14, 2016

Politifact site [for GOP presidential candidates]

Very interesting, it appears that Republicans rally behind the biggest liar. Over twice as many outright lies as Ted Cruz, and over 10 times the number of outright lies as truth he tells. I believe I called Trump a compulsive liar before, it appears I am not alone.

kimmy · August 14, 2016

Why, don't you realize that is simply lies from the zionist elite mainstream media?

Trump says he'd be winning by 20 points if it wasn't for that darned media!

I wonder how his supporters reconcile their tough-guy image of him with the angry little man pouting about media coverage.

I also wonder how many of the people who blasted Rachel Notley for revoking the press credentials of Ezra Levant's crappy website from her press conferences are Trump boosters? I wonder how they feel about the growing list of news sites that are banned from Trump events?

-k

cybercoma · August 14, 2016

They can't vote for whoever they want, they get to pick from the ones that gets put on the front line. The American people do not get to chose who is president, they only get to chose between TWO candidates. Why does America hate freedom?

How did Ross Perot get 19% of the vote if they choose between two candidates?

taxme · August 14, 2016

Yet, you have been pointed to Politifact where they actually fact check statements made by politicians and candidates. You have been made aware that Trump is almost the least honest political figure. I think only Ben Carson was less honest than Trump. At the same time Hillary was one of the most honest. Why do you cling to this view when it has been proven wrong?

Comparison Chart

Here is a link to the Politifact site: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/lists/people/fact-checking-2016-gop-presidential-candidates/

LOL. I can go on the internet and punch in Hillary Clinton's lies and plenty of stuff on her and her lying ways comes up. So, what's your point?

Donald Trump has called her a liar, and Hillary does not challenge Trump on his accusations that she is a liar. Let's have the two of them have an open debate for all to see and hear, no holds barred. Hillary will lose big time. She has so much bad baggage that she has hidden in her closet that if it were all laid out in the open for all to see you would probably not be posting what you just did.

If it is going to come down as to who the real liar may be, I will go with the Donald, as I believe that he has done less lying than Hillary. Everybody lies, and I don't care who you are. If lying will work for anyone at the time, they will do it to most likely save face or save their butt.

You obviously adore Hillary. So what will she do to make America great again if she becomes President? Do you have anything to offer.

Trump offers real change from the old establishment elite guard that Hillary works for and who has just about bankrupted America, and the American people. Trump has called the system rigged. He has said that he is not politically correct. I don't know about you but when a person is running to be President and says that, what the hell more does anybody want? Give the guy a shot at it, and lets see if he can keep his word. With the way America is going today, I am pretty sure that Trump can't do much worse. But I am pretty sure that Hillary can make things much worse than what they are now. Just my opinion, of course. Works for me.

?Impact · August 14, 2016

I believe that he [Trump] has done less lying than Hillary.

Despite reams and reams of facts proving that Trump is a compulsive liar, you 'believe' him because he is rude, crude, and ignorant.

bush_cheney2004 · August 14, 2016

If Trump is such a bad candidate with no chance of winning, why are Clinton voters and Canadian "supporters" so worried about his campaign ?

?Impact · August 14, 2016

If Trump is such a bad candidate with no chance of winning, why are Clinton voters and Canadian "supporters" so worried about his campaign ?

You are right, we should stand idly by and watch Herr Adolf Trump become the next President of the United States because democracy means we have to shut our pie hole.

Argus · August 14, 2016

If Trump is such a bad candidate with no chance of winning, why are Clinton voters and Canadian "supporters" so worried about his campaign ?

Because a lot of Americans aren't very bright.

bush_cheney2004 · August 14, 2016

You are right, we should stand idly by and watch Herr Adolf Trump become the next President of the United States because democracy means we have to shut our pie hole.

Herr Clinton could become president as well. Be careful what pie holes wish for.

bush_cheney2004 · August 14, 2016

Because a lot of Americans aren't very bright.

Hey...it's their choice. Look who is the present PM of Canada ! He also tried to influence the American campaign....can't help it...I guess.

?Impact · August 14, 2016

Hey...it's their choice. Look who is the present PM of Canada ! He also tried to influence the American campaign....can't help it...I guess.

Actually the present PM of Canada has been very non-partisan in the American campaign.

taxme · August 14, 2016

Despite reams and reams of facts proving that Trump is a compulsive liar, you 'believe' him because he is rude, crude, and ignorant.

I just told you that I can go on the internet and find websites that tell all about lying Hillary. What is the problem here? Trump is a man who says it as it needs to be said. He called the system rigged. Does that not say something to you that the man is not an establishment politically correct suck?

Trump says that he is politically incorrect. I think that is great because thanks to political correctness the truth is not allowed to be spoken or heard from. Political correctness is anti- free speech. Trump tells the truth about the establishment that they do not want we the peasants to hear or know about. I like that, don't you?

Trump may be crude, rude and ignorant but aren't all politicians really like that? Most just hide theirs, and make it appear as though they are listening and care as to what you are saying to them. At least Trump tells his opponents like it is and is not afraid of hurting or offending someones feelings. People need to learn to just suck it up, buttercup. Most politicians don't want to hear from you or about your problems unless you are a member in good standing and a big donor to their party. I can go on and on but why bother. I am going to talk to wall for awhile. See ya.

taxme · August 14, 2016

Because a lot of Americans aren't very bright.

Yup, you got that right. Anyone who is going to vote for Hillary cannot be that bright. They probably shouldn't be allowed to vote.

But then again there are lots of non bright Canadians around. They are the ones who vote liberal.

Edited August 14, 2016 by taxme

taxme · August 14, 2016

Hey...it's their choice. Look who is the present PM of Canada ! He also tried to influence the American campaign....can't help it...I guess.

Indeed. This present day PM of Canada is not good for this country. He is a liberal and that says it all. I am pretty sure that every third world country that he goes too(for a holiday at taxpayer's expense)he tries to influence their leaders to follow Canada as an example. And do you think that what Trudeau says to them will influence some of those dictators? I think not.

But hey, the holiday was great and paid for by the taxpayer. My family and me get to see the world for free. Meals and hotel included. What a job.

taxme · August 14, 2016

Indeed. This present day PM of Canada is not good for this country. He is a liberal and that says it all. I am pretty sure that every third world country that he goes too(for a holiday at taxpayer's expense)he tries to influence their leaders to follow Canada as an example. And do you think that what Trudeau says to them will influence some of those dictators? I think not. Americans certainly won't listen to him and they are right not to do so. It would appear as though bicycle paths are more an important topic to discuss in Canada today. We Canadians are such an exciting and oh so politically correct people.

But hey, the holiday was great for Trudeau and his family and all just happened to be paid for by the Canadian taxpayer. Yahoo. Trudeau and his family get to see the rest of the world for free. Meals and hotels and entertainment included. What a job, eh? I am jealous.

Edited August 14, 2016 by taxme

bush_cheney2004 · August 15, 2016

Actually the present PM of Canada has been very non-partisan in the American campaign.

Actually, Trudeau started whining about Trump early on, and was warned by his ministers not to do so.

Moonlight Graham · August 15, 2016

The recent open letter from 50 security "experts" on Donald Trump is worth a read:

Letter

The letter is a bunch of garbage, a lot of old Bush admin buddies & neocons. Foreign policy hawks, especially the neocons, not to mention the vast majority of the Democratic Party, are globalist military expansionists. They fear Trump's views on dramatically shrinking US military presence globally and making other countries start to "pay their fair share" because this threatens their jobs, the jobs of their buddies, and all the defense contractors that grease their palms.

The U.S. Department of Defense employs more people than any other organization IN THE WORLD. By a long shot! 3.2 million workers. That's a million more than Walmart or the China's army (3rd and 2nd place, respectively). Obviously they're going to have massive power and a big stake in what Trump is saying.

TimG · August 15, 2016

Obviously they're going to have massive power and a big stake in what Trump is saying.

So you think there is nothing to be concerned about when a presidential candidate calls on a foreign power to execute a cyberattack on a US politician?

I can understand that some people like Trump's message but that is not enough to justify ignoring the glaring character flaws that make him completely unsuited for a position that requires tact and diplomacy.

Edited August 15, 2016 by TimG

Moonlight Graham · August 15, 2016

So you think there is nothing to be concerned about when a presidential candidate calls on a foreign power to execute a cyberattack on a US politician?

I can understand that some people like Trump's message but that is not enough to justify ignoring the glaring character flaws that make him completely unsuited for a position that requires tact and diplomacy.

I never said that. But since when were prominent members of the GOP publicly expressing "grave concern" about what a nominee did? Republicans always have been behind the GOP nominee. And there's been so many radical freaks within the GOP. I don't remember prominent Republicans saying "Palin isn't qualified to be VP".

The GOP establishment supported the terrible Bush admin, up until the end when he was so unpopular it was in their interests to distance themselves from those guys.

The GOP can't control Trump, and that's a huge threat to them as a party.

TimG · August 15, 2016

But since when were prominent members of the GOP publicly expressing "grave concern" about what a nominee did?

Because up until now the nominees all possessed the tact and diplomacy needed for the role. I realize that you don't like the policies that other GOP nominees promoted but that does not mean they had the glaring flaws in character and temperament that Trump has.

"Palin isn't qualified to be VP"

She was VP - not the nominee. There were likely some grumbling but since the presidential nominee was more than suitable it was a non-issue. Edited August 15, 2016 by TimG

eyeball · August 15, 2016

I never said that. But since when were prominent members of the GOP publicly expressing "grave concern" about what a nominee did? Republicans always have been behind the GOP nominee. And there's been so many radical freaks within the GOP. I don't remember prominent Republicans saying "Palin isn't qualified to be VP".

The GOP establishment supported the terrible Bush admin, up until the end when he was so unpopular it was in their interests to distance themselves from those guys.

The GOP can't control Trump, and that's a huge threat to them as a party.

It's a wonder they haven't assassinated him yet.

Argus · August 15, 2016

I just told you that I can go on the internet and find websites that tell all about lying Hillary. What is the problem here?

The problem is those are the same web sites which tell us martians are controlling the world, the Jews blew up the world trade center, and Obama was born in Kenya and is a Muslim.

Argus · August 15, 2016

The letter is a bunch of garbage, a lot of old Bush admin buddies & neocons. Foreign policy hawks, especially the neocons, not to mention the vast majority of the Democratic Party, are globalist military expansionists.

This is seriously deluded. The letter was signed by people from several Republican administrations, and the US has not 'expanded' through military or any other means in a century. Russia, on the other hand...

segnosaur · August 15, 2016

The letter is a bunch of garbage, a lot of old Bush admin buddies & neocons. Foreign policy hawks, especially the neocons, not to mention the vast majority of the Democratic Party, are globalist military expansionists.

Yes, there are a lot of former members of the Bush administration on the letter. (Although if I remember correctly, some are former members of Regan's administration.) That's one of the reasons why many people consider it significant... if people who supported republicans are pointing out the flaws in the current republican nominee, it means he might have really gone off the rails. (After all, had the letter been composed of former advisors to Carter, or Bill Clinton, it could be dismissed as "liberals dissing republicans".

They fear Trump's views on dramatically shrinking US military presence globally and making other countries start to "pay their fair share" because this threatens their jobs, the jobs of their buddies, and all the defense contractors that grease their palms.
The U.S. Department of Defense employs more people than any other organization IN THE WORLD. By a long shot! 3.2 million workers. That's a million more than Walmart or the China's army (3rd and 2nd place, respectively). Obviously they're going to have massive power and a big stake in what Trump is saying.

Keep in mind that at times, Trump has actually called for an expansion of the U.S. military.

From: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-military-spending-flip-flop-226705

I’m going to make our military so big, so powerful, so strong, that nobody — absolutely nobody — is going to mess with us,” Trump says in a 23-second video stating his position on “the military” on his campaign website.

And while he makes comments about how he might withdraw from NATO, and isn't interested in "nation builiding", he also favored the Iraq invasion and the bombing in Libya, and claims that he'll somehow destroy ISIS.

For many people, the incoherence of the message is one of the reasons we are wary of having Trump anywhere near the White House.