betsy Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, WestCoastRunner said: Just as religious folks through out statements simply based out of fear You're now going to follow that irrelevant issue.....which will derail this topic about ISLAM! So I bid you bye-bye. Thank you though, for proving my point that western feminists can't remain focused long enough on an issue. Edited August 10, 2017 by betsy
WestCoastRunner Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, betsy said: WCR, who cares even if they do come together. Read my response! That's a bizarre response. Elaborate? I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
hot enough Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, betsy said: You're now going to follow that irrelevant issue.....which will derail this topic about ISLAM! So I bid you bye-bye. Who just said, Betsy, "Some folks recklessly make ignorant remarks.....thinking smugly that they'd just given something profound".
WestCoastRunner Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 1 minute ago, betsy said: You're now going to follow that irrelevant issue.....which will derail this topic about ISLAM! So I bid you bye-bye. Wtf? I'm responding to your post and now all of a sudden I'm derailing? I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Omni Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, betsy said: It dosn't matter whether you're an anti-God or not. Your remark is irrelevant. "Irrelevant"? because it disagrees with your stance? You have just bolstered that narrow mindedness I spoke of. Thanks Betsy.
hot enough Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, WestCoastRunner said: Wtf? I'm responding to your post and now all of a sudden I'm derailing? You haven't cottoned on to these folks' tricks yet, WCR? 1
betsy Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Omni said: "Irrelevant"? because it disagrees with your stance? You have just bolstered that narrow mindedness I spoke of. Thanks Betsy. Lift up thy eyes, and read the title of this thread. Edited August 10, 2017 by betsy
hot enough Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Omni said: "Irrelevant"? because it disagrees with your stance? You have just bolstered that narrow mindedness I spoke of. Thanks Betsy. Major hypocrisy from you, Omni. You have described yourself, AGAIN! You and Betsy have a great deal in common. Edited August 10, 2017 by hot enough
WestCoastRunner Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 1 minute ago, betsy said: Lift up thy eyes, and read the title of this thread. Betsy, your posts are being responded to and if you don't like the responses then don't post. I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Omni Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 1 minute ago, hot enough said: Major hypocrisy from you, Omni. You have described yourself, AGAIN! oops, pixie dust man trolls yet another thread.
hot enough Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Omni said: oops, pixie dust man trolls yet another thread. I told you that you and Betsy have a lot in common and you leap to the fore to illustrate it. Christians, pseudo christians are attacking Muslims all based on false witness. What commandment does that break? Edited August 10, 2017 by hot enough
betsy Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, WestCoastRunner said: Betsy, your posts are being responded to and if you don't like the responses then don't post. Ehhh? I can't resist this mind-boggler. What kind of twisted logic is that? It's not like as if you three, are the only ones who ever respond here. What happened to....."if you don't like the responses, then just ignore?" Anyway, that's all I wanted to say. I'm pointing out the flaw in your response. So, bye-bye again. Edited August 10, 2017 by betsy
Omni Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 1 minute ago, betsy said: Ehhh? I can't resist this mind-boggler. What kind of twisted logic is that? What happened to....."if you don't like the responses, then just ignore?" Who could igmore your endless use of emoticons? Well....come to think of it.
jacee Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 1 hour ago, betsy said: BUT the problem is....... WESTERN FEMINISTS - like some folks here - are lost, and so confus Watching them fight for feminist issues like abortion - mouthing off the mantra, "it's my body" - and yet at the same time defending Islamists from getting criticized and mocked, is ............quite a sight to behold. It's not confusing at all, betsy: We defend freedom of choice. 1
Omni Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, jacee said: It's not confusing at all, betsy: We defend freedom of choice. Hear hear.
Argus Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, bcsapper said: Kids know whatever their parents tell them, unfortunately. But adults learn from experience. I mean, nobody ever told me a thing about Chinese or Arabs or Muslims or Hindus and the like when I was a child. My first experience in life with anyone not white was with a Lebanese guy in grade seven. I didn't know he WAS a Lebanese guy. I just knew he was a dick and I didn't like him. His being Lebanese was not relevant to that. His buddy was blonde and he was a dick too. There will always be true racists. There always have been. I'm not sure why. I don't really grasp why so many people have such an issue with Jews, for example. There seems no sensible reason for it (other than those weird Hasidim, of course). But most of what the progressives like to call 'racism' today is nothing of the sort. It's a dislike/discomfort/disapproval based on experience, knowledge and judgement. So they try to brainwash kids as much as possible into that 'we are the world' sort of thinking, where all people and cultures are the same, but kids grow up, and that sort of nonsense only works on the weak-minded. Edited August 10, 2017 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, WestCoastRunner said: There are efforts for western and islamic feminists to come together. It's an evolving process with mistakes and gains made along the way. I'm quite positive things are progressing for Muslim women around the world. Certainly not fast enough but there is progress. Do you regard Linda Sarsour as an Muslim feminist? Edited August 10, 2017 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Omni Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, Argus said: It's a dislike/discomfort/disapproval based on experience, knowledge and judgement. It's when you take that dislike of a particular person and try to apply it to the whole culture the person you don't like belongs to that it becomes racism/xenophobia. 3
jacee Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 34 minutes ago, Argus said: But adults learn from experience. I mean, nobody ever told me a thing about Chinese or Arabs or Muslims or Hindus and the like when I was a child. My first experience in life with anyone not white was with a Lebanese guy in grade seven. I didn't know he WAS a Lebanese guy. I just knew he was a dick and I didn't like him. His being Lebanese was not relevant to that. His buddy was blonde and he was a dick too. There will always be true racists. There always have been. I'm not sure why. I don't really grasp why so many people have such an issue with Jews, for example. There seems no sensible reason for it (other than those weird Hasidim, of course). But most of what the progressives like to call 'racism' today is nothing of the sort. It's a dislike/discomfort/disapproval based on experience, knowledge and judgement. So they try to brainwash kids as much as possible into that 'we are the world' sort of thinking, where all people and cultures are the same, but kids grow up, and that sort of nonsense only works on the weak-minded. Omni is right, and my "experience, knowledge and judgement" of you here on mlw is that you have made the leap from personal dislike to xenophobia toward all people of entire cultures/races/religions. I am curious how many people of different ethnicities you personally disliked before you made the leap to xenophobia against them all. ?? 2
Omni Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, jacee said: you have made the leap from personal dislike to xenophobia toward all people of entire cultures/races/religions. I have called him out for that a time or two here, as a result I have been put on his ignore list. Tells ya something right there I think.
Argus Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, jacee said: Omni is right, and my "experience, knowledge and judgement" of you here on mlw is that you have made the leap from personal dislike to xenophobia toward all people of entire cultures/races/religions. Well, since in my judgement you are not a serious person, and are way out there on the far fringes of the far left, as well as a believer in conspiracy theories, I'm afraid I don't take your opinion of me or anything else very seriously. I don't talk about races other than in the context of the observable group characteristics of a minority within ours, ie, blacks, or natives or asians. My judgement of other individual cultures and religions is based upon the overall behaviour of the people who belong to those cultures and religions. I'm quite content this is far more sensible, logical, and intelligent than your shrill and vindictive extremism. Edited August 10, 2017 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
betsy Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, jacee said: It's not confusing at all, betsy: We defend freedom of choice. Uh, what choice do Muslim women have? We even have clear examples here in Canada - the father who killed his three daughters : Quote 'You have no place in civilised society': Muslim family jailed for life after 'despicable' honour killing of three teen daughters who dared to date boys Father, mother and son found guilty of murdering family's three teenage daughters The girls defied strict rules by dating, socialising and going online Bodies found submerged in car in canal Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2093513/Afghan-family-guilty-honour-killing- Edited August 10, 2017 by betsy
dialamah Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, betsy said: Uh, what choice do Muslim women have? They do tell you but you can't be bothered to listen. 1
betsy Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 1 minute ago, dialamah said: They do tell you but you can't be bothered to listen. Tell what?
Guest Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 12 hours ago, dialamah said: True, so clearly there are parents who are teaching their kids not to be racist. That's a good thing, no? Of course. Who teaches them to screech?
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