Civis Romanus sum Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 So here is the policy I would like to see implemented. We legalize marijuana, tax it, and put all the money gained into addiction treatment. Quote
Evening Star Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) I only voted "no" because I don't think this should be a requirement: put all the money into addiction treatment [Edited to highlight quote] Edited September 3, 2015 by Evening Star Quote
BubberMiley Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 Addiction treatment? Who needs addiction treatment? You're thinking of the junkies and alcoholics. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Smallc Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 Addiction treatment? Who needs addiction treatment? You're thinking of the junkies and alcoholics. I don't know if it was necessarily addictions treatment for marijuana. Quote
BubberMiley Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 I'd rather see the money put into general revenues. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Evening Star Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 I'd rather see the money put into general revenues. Yeah, me too. I'm fine with funding addiction treatment but I don't see why all of this potential revenue needs to earmarked specifically for this purpose. Quote
The_Squid Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 Isn't addiction treatment Provincial jurisdiction? I agree that much more has to be done by governments in terms treatment. I don't agree that this is the way it should be accomplished. Why aren't taxes from alcohol going to addiction treatment... I don't know the figures, but I am willing to guess that alcoholics vastly outnumber drug addicts. Quote
Canada_First Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 I'd rather see the money put into general revenues. Agreed. Quote
Canada_First Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 Addicts are weak. I don't care if they all died. They're scum of the Earth. Quote
Black Dog Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 Addicts are weak. I don't care if they all died. They're scum of the Earth. Kinda hope someone close to you gets an addiction TBH. Quote
Smallc Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 I'd rather see the money put into general revenues. I'd be fine with that too. Quote
Black Dog Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 I'd be fine with that too. How about health care/education generally? Or infrastructure/transportation? IMO, revenue that isn't earmarked for a specific purpose has a way of getting frittered away. Quote
Mighty AC Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) I'd be fine with that too. How about health care/education generally? Or infrastructure/transportation? IMO, revenue that isn't earmarked for a specific purpose has a way of getting frittered away. You both have a point. Government should have the flexibility to direct funds to where they are most needed. BUT past governments, including the Harper government have given us little reason to believe the money won't be frittered away. Didn't the Harperites misplace a few billion in anti-terror cash? This government is also closing in on $1B spent on ads, some of which were for programs that didn't exist. It has also spent millions more on selfies, fake lakes (next to a real great lake), gazeebos under the guise of border security, billions hosting the G20...something that other nations do for millions. There is the half a billion spent on additional lawyers, beyond the team already on permanent staff. In 2013 alone they misplaced $370M in cash, equipment and cases of Blackberrys. Citing cost as the reason, the Harper government was prepared to spend enough cash to shutdown a world class freshwater research project, to actually fund it for 25 years. Oh and they spent enough commemorating the war of 1812 to fund the same award winning research project, deemed too expensive, for an additional 18 years. In short, the problem is not the freedom to allocate funds, the problem is bad, unaccountable government. The solution, as voters, is to make it clear we will not support bad, unaccountable governments. Edited September 3, 2015 by Mighty AC Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
-1=e^ipi Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 I only voted "no" because I don't think this should be a requirement: I have the same position. Legalize it, tax it. But I don't think there should be a requirement about where the tax revenue needs to go. Quote
Freddy Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 You both have a point. Government should have the flexibility to direct funds to where they are most needed. BUT past governments, including the Harper government have given us little reason to believe the money won't be frittered away. Didn't the Harperites misplace a few billion in anti-terror cash? This government is also closing in on $1B spent on ads, some of which were for programs that didn't exist. It has also spent millions more on selfies, fake lakes (next to a real great lake), gazeebos under the guise of border security, billions hosting the G20...something that other nations do for millions. There is the half a billion spent on additional lawyers, beyond the team already on permanent staff. In 2013 alone they misplaced $370M in cash, equipment and cases of Blackberrys. Citing cost as the reason, the Harper government was prepared to spend enough cash to shutdown a world class freshwater research project, to actually fund it for 25 years. Oh and they spent enough commemorating the war of 1812 to fund the same award winning research project, deemed too expensive, for an additional 18 years. In short, the problem is not the freedom to allocate funds, the problem is bad, unaccountable government. The solution, as voters, is to make it clear we will not support bad, unaccountable governments. I'm looking forward to my Harper buyout. Disney Land here I come! Quote
Freddy Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 I have the same position. Legalize it, tax it. But I don't think there should be a requirement about where the tax revenue needs to go. I'd rather have it deposited strait into my account. Quote
Vancouver King Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 Ok, ok, sign me up - with one proviso: only 10% of net revenue for pot head addiction treatment (there are few of these around), with the considerable balance poured into the treasury. Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
eyeball Posted September 3, 2015 Report Posted September 3, 2015 So here is the policy I would like to see implemented. We legalize marijuana, tax it, and put all the money gained into addiction treatment. Sure, so long as people who want to produce their own can do so just like people who make their own beer and wine. They'll all be paying taxes on the stuff they use like pots, fertilizers, electricity etc so... Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
ReeferMadness Posted September 4, 2015 Report Posted September 4, 2015 It doesn't matter. Most people will buy from the liquor store, just like most people buy liquor there now. Plus, there will be serious savings in terms of law enforcement as well. Organized crime will take a big financial hit. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
On Guard for Thee Posted September 4, 2015 Report Posted September 4, 2015 Exactly. The cartel revenues will be re channeled into the public purse. I don't think there are a lot of potaholics so my idea would be to focus most of the revenue into healthcare. Then think about all the dollars we will save by not putting people in jail for something so non criminal as smoking a joint. Win, win. A lot of wins. Quote
Smallc Posted September 4, 2015 Report Posted September 4, 2015 Why the people in power haven't figured it out yet is beyond me. Quote
ReeferMadness Posted September 4, 2015 Report Posted September 4, 2015 The Liberals were cowards. I think Chretien likely would have decriminalized at least and maybe legalized but was afraid of the response from the Americans. The current crop have no such excuse as the states are way ahead of us now. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Topaz Posted September 4, 2015 Report Posted September 4, 2015 Apparently, for what its worth, Lauren Harper doesn't think people should go to jail for smoking it either and I like to listen to a debate on this between the Mr and Mrs. http://ipolitics.ca/2015/09/02/you-dont-put-people-in-jail-for-marijuana-use-laureen-harper/ Quote
eyeball Posted September 4, 2015 Report Posted September 4, 2015 The Liberals were cowards. I think Chretien likely would have decriminalized at least and maybe legalized but was afraid of the response from the Americans. The current crop have no such excuse as the states are way ahead of us now. I'm pretty sure they've always been more afraid of the response from conservatives. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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