bush_cheney2004 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 ....Time to start addressing the real issues that cause violent crime and that allows mental illness to go untreated. Yes....constitutional rights will not be infringed because of criminals or the mentally ill. Making it a "hate crime" is certainly no more dramatic or compelling than what happened at a grade school in Connecticut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Racist manifesto of Charsleston shooter surfaces Here's another link, similar but with a uniquely different twist. I like it actually! http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/20/how-twitter-sleuths-found-dylann-roof-s-manifesto.html WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Yes....constitutional rights will not be infringed because of criminals or the mentally ill. Making it a "hate crime" is certainly no more dramatic or compelling than what happened at a grade school in Connecticut. But you got to love the billions of bad advertising for free it gives the US! USA!USA!USA! WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 This Aussie comic dismantles the anti gun control nonsense in 15 minutes while also getting in a crack at the likes of BC_2004: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/19/an-australian-stand-up-comic-explains-what-u-s-gun-laws-look-like-to-the-rest-of-the-world/?tid=pm_business_pop_b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Yes....constitutional rights will not be infringed because of criminals or the mentally ill. Making it a "hate crime" is certainly no more dramatic or compelling than what happened at a grade school in Connecticut. Exactly, the real question, is why do gun grabbers persist in a losing battle.......are they just stupid or is it something else? Think of what all the wasted money that goes to gun control groups and what it could do for poor minorities living in crime ridden ghettos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) This Aussie comic dismantles the anti gun control nonsense in 15 minutes while also getting in a crack at the likes of BC_2004: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/19/an-australian-stand-up-comic-explains-what-u-s-gun-laws-look-like-to-the-rest-of-the-world/?tid=pm_business_pop_b Irrelevant....Aussies make jokes about a lot of things. The U.S. Supreme Court has upheld the "joke" many times. Americans largely don't give a damn what other nationals think about gun control, including BC_2004. Hell, better gun nut criticism can be found from other Americans. Guns are inseparable from the past, present, and future American narrative. Edited June 21, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Guns are inseparable from the past, present, and future American narrative. And there's a saying for that, it's called the gift that keeps giving. Wonder why the US economy is slipping into the #3 spot? Oh ya that's right, billions in free bad advertising! WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Exactly, the real question, is why do gun grabbers persist in a losing battle.......are they just stupid or is it something else? I don't think they are stupid, but like other social justice warriors, they think people will just roll over for the "good of society". Efff that. Gun rights are enshrined in the U.S. Constitution. Sorry, that's the reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 And there's a saying for that, it's called the gift that keeps giving. Wonder why the US economy is slipping into the #3 spot? Oh ya that's right, billions in free bad advertising! Doesn't matter...guns were used to build the country...when the economy was rising to #1. Canada has never gotten there with stronger "gun control", not that the two are related at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Irrelevant....Aussies make jokes about a lot of things. The U.S. Supreme Court has upheld the "joke" many times. Americans largely don't give a damn what other nationals think about gun control, including BC_2004. Hell, better gun nut criticism can be found from other Americans. Guns are inseparable from the past, present, and future American narrative. Exactly, likewise his failed narrative that guns don't prevent crimes, as the gun grabbers only point to statistics that include justifiable homicides, leaving out the thousands of crime prevented each year by citizens with guns.....as most example include citizens not shooting criminals, but more often criminals fleeing or surrendering until the police arrive..... In all languages spoken across the globe, the sound of a racking shotgun is clearly understood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Exactly, likewise his failed narrative that guns don't prevent crimes, as the gun grabbers only point to statistics that include justifiable homicides, leaving out the thousands of crime prevented each year by citizens with guns.....as most example include citizens not shooting criminals, but more often criminals fleeing or surrendering until the police arrive..... In all languages spoken across the globe, the sound of a racking shotgun is clearly understood. Right.....logically they would call for disarming all of law enforcement as well. The U.S. is an armed nation...always has been....that's how it came to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Doesn't matter...guns were used to build the country...when the economy was rising to #1. Canada has never gotten there with stronger "gun control", not that the two are related at all. You're living in the past my friend. It's called the 21 century bro, ah forget it you're country is happy losing everything it once had. Enjoy being the #3 economy behind India in ten years. Sounds like in ten years, the US is still going to be having this debate with no end in sight, spinning their wheels going nowhere but down. WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Looks like this kid is getting a good break with the judge! http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/19/racist-talk-from-dylann-roof-s-judge.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 And here's another link about the race issue! This link has a more serious tone that more than likely will have damage for the good old republicans! http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/dylann-roof-was-radicalized-by-the-website-of-a-group-that-has-been-associated-with-gop-politicians/ WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 You're living in the past my friend. It's called the 21 century bro, ah forget it you're country is happy losing everything it once had. Enjoy being the #3 economy behind India in ten years. The past had the U.S. rising to the world's #1 economy with lots and lots of GUNS, destroying your association and assertion. It didn't make any sense anyway. Canada will .....never ever ever ever be #1...like, ever... - Taylor Swift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Canada will .....never ever ever ever be #1...like, ever... - Taylor Swift Hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H10 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 I'd consider it terrorism. He did it for a political reason to "Start a race war" no different than muslims who bomb and shoot to start a "Religious war on infidels". Just another example of a violent young problem population male white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 I don't know what I'd say, I'd be shocked if an elitist, left leaning personality in the media actually addressed the issue with the same level of passion as they do with these lesser events....... But you don't actually care about the issue yourself. So stop being such a hypocrite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Exactly, the real question, is why do gun grabbers persist in a losing battle.......are they just stupid or is it something else? Think of what all the wasted money that goes to gun control groups and what it could do for poor minorities living in crime ridden ghettos... Yes lets see what gun strokers have done for poverty and mental health.... ... Yup. Nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Here: John Lott? LOL Ahh, but were talking about homicides, of which, as I said, the numbers are near parity: I was talking about gun deaths. Those other 10,000+ people are still dead. Right.....like how they did with recreational drugs, child porn and illegal movie/music downloads At least try to conceal your erection here. Its sad that people like you focus on controlling something that you never will, instead of working to address the underlying causes of violent crime and treatment for mental illness........... Every other civilized country has more effective gun control and less gun crime as a result. The only difference is those other countries don't have a culture of gun strokers who deem tens of thousands of deaths an acceptable price for their feelings of masculinity. One would think most people, on both sides of the gun rights/control debate would be in favor of reducing violent crime and addressing mental illness. Again: not an either/or. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 I don't think they are stupid, but like other social justice warriors, they think people will just roll over for the "good of society". Isn't this something the state depends on people doing all he time? Take pot for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 But you don't actually care about the issue yourself. So stop being such a hypocrite. Says who? Conservatives don't like crime....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Yes lets see what gun strokers have done for poverty and mental health.... ... Yup. Nothing. "Gun strokers" once supported universal background checks, but "social justice warriors" fought against the inclusion of mental health records and nationwide arrest records within the FBI's NICS program......clearly one doesn't want to trample their privacy rights!!!! My question, what do you think gun control will do for poverty and mental health? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 John Lott? LOL Can you refute his decades long study? I was talking about gun deaths. Those other 10,000+ people are still dead. Yeah, but if the majority of those other 10000+ people killed themselves with rope or sleeping pills, I doubt you'd be calling for the banning of rope or medication....... At least try to conceal your erection here. Why? I get great pleasure in the fact that the advent of uncontrollable 3D guns will put your mantra of gun control forever out of reach........and your ilk will be forced to actually address the underlying issues. Every other civilized country has more effective gun control and less gun crime as a result. The only difference is those other countries don't have a culture of gun strokers who deem tens of thousands of deaths an acceptable price for their feelings of masculinity. Every other civilized country has lesser rates of poverty, which in turn results in lesser violent crime and established healthcare systems that are able to cope with the mentally ill.........Not to mention, most of these "civilized countries" don't border one of the larger producers and transport hubs of recreational drugs. As stated countless times, your meme of gun control=less crime is absurd..........as used as an example countless times, Mexico has far more stringent gun control than even Canada, yet 4-5 times the rate of gun crime. Inversely, New Zealand or the Czech Republic have far laxer gun laws then most US States, but far less rates of gun crime....... Again: not an either/or. Perhaps not to you, but you've clearly failed on one, and to the best of my knowledge have done little for the later.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Yes and I for one have certainly seen my fair share of that stuff. However it worries me that some people cant seem to separate fact from fantasy. It's become part of the American cultural landscape, a part of how they see themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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