Big Guy Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) I have always questioned the need for guns and especially the approach that Texas has towards that issue. I had never considered that perhaps the idea that everybody should have a gun is based on the Darwin Awards. Looks like there are a number of bikers in Texas who are potential award winners (posthumously) and plenty more ready to apply. http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/18/us/texas-biker-gang-brawl-shooting/index.html I appears that a bunch of bikers (I believe that we call them 1%ers here) were in a restaurant in Texas, had a disagreement and decided to take each other out. Fortunately, no innocent bystanders were killed or injured while 9 bikers were killed and a whole bunch were injured. I believe this to be an important precedent and I hope Texas will continue. The reports indicate that this was a turf battle between that wonderful group of community activists called the "Bandidos" and the equally community minded "Cossacks". There was no obvious victor and police say that members of both clubs from around the USA are arming and travelling to North Texas. I think the gun advocates and those thoughtful Texans who are ready to prevent an invasion from their federal government are missing a golden opportunity. Texas Stadium seats about 70,000 people. I would suggest that the locals set up a confrontation between these two clubs in the domed stadium and charge admission. Spectators could also be encouraged to join the carnage. All profits could go to gun clubs and local militias and any spectators surviving misguided bullets could have a wonderful time and help their community. A win, win, win situation! God Bless America! Edited May 19, 2015 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Michael Hardner Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 There was also a Canadian Bandidos massacre, 9 years ago: 8 killed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shedden_massacre Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
eyeball Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 Cossacks sound Communist. Scimtars sound Islamic. Texas sounds weird. Jade Helm, free speech freaks, Jesus freaks, bikers gone wild... What channel is Texas on? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Hal 9000 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) And the police killed more bikers than either of the 2 gangs. Edited May 19, 2015 by Charles Anthony deleted quotation re-copying entire Opening Post Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Boges Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 Texas Stadium doesn't exist anymore. It was replaces with AT&T Stadium AKA as Jerry's World. It seats in excess of 100,000. Just sayin'. Quote
drummindiver Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 So, I know I've ranted about rubbish... but a whole thread advocating murder and mayhem (please don't explain sarcasm...I get it.) Are you bashing bikers, or the whole state of Texas?Cause, you know, the only good Texan..... Quote
Big Guy Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Posted May 19, 2015 On CNN to-day it was reported that it is estimated that there are 44,000 outlaw bikers (many former military) in the USA which represents about twice the number of ISIS soldiers in the Middle East. I see a solution to two problems; If we can ship these bikers into Ramadi then ... What I find disconcerting is that these 1%ers started just after WWII as war veterans who had difficulty adjusting to home life. Disenchanted veterans continue to add to the numbers of these outlaws who have morphed into crime organizations. Even in Canada, it is estimated that 40 to 60 active members of our forces are being investigated for ties to these gangs. I would assume that difficulty of adjusting to normal life after combat, coupled with a disillusionment with our government attracts veterans to these gangs. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Argus Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 And the police killed more bikers than either of the 2 gangs. That's an interesting statement. I have yet to see any official report on how many bikers were killed by each other as opposed to those killed by police. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 Bandidos sounds Mexican. Nope. It was formed in Texas. Same with the Cossacks, same with the Ayrian Brotherhood. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Big Guy Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Posted May 19, 2015 About 170 survivors of the Texas shootout have been arrested. A judge has allowed bail - at $1 million apiece! It will be interesting just how many members of these boys clubs will make bail. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Hal 9000 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 That's an interesting statement. I have yet to see any official report on how many bikers were killed by each other as opposed to those killed by police. I'm mostly guessing, but considering the math; 9 dead and at least 4 of those by the hands of police, leaves about 5 dead bikers. there were 5 different gangs, but mostly Bandidos and Cossacks. Assuming some amount of equality (and keeping the other gangs in the back pocket), logic would say that the police killed more bikers than any particular gang did (unless all the dead were either Cossacks or Bandidos - which I'd consider highly unlikely). But yeah, just a logic based guess! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Shady Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 Nope. It was formed in Texas. Same with the Cossacks, same with the Ayrian Brotherhood. Lots of things in Texas have orgins in Mexico. Quote
Shady Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 The Texas/Mexican border is like a war zone, where rival gangs battle it out, on each side, as well as along the Texas border. The Feds continue to refuse to secure the border. Quote
Big Guy Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) How would this "meeting" have been handled by the Texas police if it had been 200 black guys, in outlaw uniforms, most of them armed with various weapons? I think there might have been a difference. Edited May 19, 2015 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Shady Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 How would this "meeting" have been handled by the Texas police if it had been 200 black guys, in outlaw uniforms, most of them armed with various weapons? I think there might have been a difference. Biker gangs usually include all races and ethnicities. Not sure what you're talking about. Quote
BubberMiley Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 Biker gangs usually include all races and ethnicities. Are you joking? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Big Guy Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) To Shady - I was looking through the booking photos and saw one guy who might be taken for being "black" - or a dark Latino. http://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_outlaw_motorcycle_clubs Also checked out other gangs around the world and don't see any "black" gangs that are considered 1%ers. I submit that if this confrontation in Waco Texas had instead been instigated by 200 black guys wearing their colours that the situation would have been handled very differently by local police. The police knew this meeting was taking place, knew that many, many weapons would be available and that violence was imminent. There was no preliminary searching, carding, escalated police presence et al. Unless one believes that the police handled this situation well because only 9 people were killed. I do not. Edited May 19, 2015 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Hal 9000 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 Ok, the big question on my mind is; Are Latinos white? It seems they change between white and brown depending what argument is being made. Dems always say that the Repubs don't like Latinos because they're brown, then proceed to claim them as white, when it benefits their white crime stats. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Argus Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 Ok, the big question on my mind is; Are Latinos white? It seems they change between white and brown depending what argument is being made. Dems always say that the Repubs don't like Latinos because they're brown, then proceed to claim them as white, when it benefits their white crime stats.How would claiming them benefit their "white crime stats"? In fact, given the amount of street crime committed by Hispanics, esp Hispanic street gangs, I'm going to go out on not much of a limb and suggest the crime rate among Hispanics is far higher than for "whites". This year, for the first time, the FBI is separating out Hispanics in crime stats. They will no longer be labelled as "Caucasian", so I guess we'll see. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 Lots of things in Texas have orgins in Mexico. The bandidos were formed in Houston by a dock worker named Donald Chambers, if that helps. The Cossacks were also founded in Texas. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Bryan Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 Lots of things in Texas have orgins in Mexico. Including Texas itself. Quote
Bryan Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 How would claiming them benefit their "white crime stats"? By counting hispanics as "white", people can manipulate statistics to make it appear as though there is less disparity between "white" and "black" crime stats. Quote
poochy Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 How would this "meeting" have been handled by the Texas police if it had been 200 black guys, in outlaw uniforms, most of them armed with various weapons? I think there might have been a difference. Clearly they would have executed all 200. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 How would this "meeting" have been handled by the Texas police if it had been 200 black guys, in outlaw uniforms, most of them armed with various weapons? I think there might have been a difference. The same, Texas DPS/Texas Rangers categorize the Bandidios as a tier 2 gang, like the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas (White), the Bloods and Crips (both Black) and MS-13 and Chicano Brotherhood of Texas (both Hispanic)........all gangs get equal treatment. Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.