Topaz Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 As lawyer to Fahmy, she has come out blasted Harper for NOT picking up to phone and helping the Canadian to be released from jail and sent home. This shouldn't be a surprised to Canadians because past actions for Canadians of ME don't get help from the PM. I wonder how many of them voted for Harper last time and won't this time around?? http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/amal-clooney-wants-stephen-harper-to-pick-up-phone-to-free-mohamed-fahmy-1.2974284 Quote
LemonPureLeaf Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 Look at thier name. Are they really Canadian? Seems suspicious to me that all of these Muslims are now suddenly flag waving Canadians. It seems they're only Canadians of convenience, meaning when they get into trouble in a foreign land they cry for the PM to help. Quote
Black Dog Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 Look at thier name. Are they really Canadian? Seems suspicious to me that all of these Muslims are now suddenly flag waving Canadians. It seems they're only Canadians of convenience, meaning when they get into trouble in a foreign land they cry for the PM to help. You mean...like any other Canadian would do in the same circumstances? Quote
PIK Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 Did she not jump the gun and say he was going to be released and he ended up not. And now that she is Mrs Geo Clooney, she is now god. His family came here to get away from the crap and he goes back and gets into trouble, he should have known better. And maybe our government knows he broke egyptian law .We got burned by the lebanese and that lady who IMO was as guilty as hell in mexico and critized the gov for not getting her out faster. And she was bytching on the jet our government sent down to get her. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
scribblet Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 I thought he had been released. I have read that this guy is one of those Canadians of convenience that he hadn't lived in Canada for 13 years and flew the Egyptian flag at his bail hearing. Canada has been talking to Egypt but what about his employer Al Jazeera, how much are they doing for him? We don't know exactly how much Canada is doing behind the scenes, this is just another attempt to smear PM Harper. The Toronto star of course is using as a means to slur the gov't and insinuate nefarious reasons. Having said that I do hope they can get him out. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Michael Hardner Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 Look at thier name. Coming from a guy who can't spell in English, and whose name is LemonPureLeaf it's pretty rich that you're questioning somebody's name. Change your name to MaplePureLeaf, then we'll talk ! Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
LemonPureLeaf Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) Im not sure how having him in Canada makes Canada a better spot on the globe. Are they moderate Muslims or extremist? Maybe we don't need more of their views in Canada. Muslims are largely agsinst homosexuality! The koran says they should be killed. It isn't like the Bible, written by prophets, the koran is the literal word of God And must be obeyed as written. Has anyone checked the family view of homosexuals? Or apostates? How do they feel about honour killings? Do they feel non Muslim s should be killed as heretics as it commands in the koran? Someone better check it out. Edited February 27, 2015 by LemonPureLeaf Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 You mean...like any other Canadian would do in the same circumstances? Apparently you cant be a Canadian unless your name looks....Canadian. Quote
guyser Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 Did she not jump the gun and say he was going to be released and he ended up not. And now that she is Mrs Geo Clooney, she is now god. His family came here to get away from the crap and he goes back and gets into trouble, he should have known better. And maybe our government knows he broke egyptian law .We got burned by the lebanese and that lady who IMO was as guilty as hell in mexico and critized the gov for not getting her out faster. And she was bytching on the jet our government sent down to get her.Way to crap the bed. Posting without knowing one single thing about the situation. LOL Quote
scribblet Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 No one on here knows the whole situation/story, all we know are bits that the media tells us and even that can be misinformation or they don't really know. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
guyser Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 We don't know exactly how much Canada is doing behind the scenes,They wrote a letter. Tony Abbott made a telephone call and got his citizen sent home right away. this is just another attempt to smear PM Harper. The Toronto star of course is using as a means to slur the gov't and insinuate nefarious reasons. Having said that I do hope they can get him out. Yes yes The Star is behind all of this. Blame them Heaven forbid the Sun Globe Nat'l Post and every other daily in the country reports the same thing. But nooooooo its the Star's fault. Quote
Argus Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 I have to say I don't see where we're responsible for what happens to this guy. I don't like to see people unjustly imprisoned, but hey, it happens all over the world every day. Why is this our business? He voluntarily went there knowing the risks. Now it's our fault we haven't pulled him out of the mess he created for himself? The government has acted on his behalf at all levels, according to what I've read, but we don't own Egypt. We don't control what they do. And we're not going to go to war against Egypt or any other third world country just because one of their citizens gets into trouble there. Oh, he's Canadian? How much time has he spent here? I did see a clip of his wife ecstatic after he was released on bail saying "Egypt, my country, how I love you. I knew you would do the right thing!" so I have to question just what manner of Canadians of convenience these people are. Both he and she have lashed out at the Canadian government for not getting him free while praising the Egyptian government. I don't know if they think that's going to encourage more efforts on their behalf but I doubt it. It sure as hell doesn't impress me. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 They wrote a letter. Tony Abbott made a telephone call and got his citizen sent home right away. His citizen was in prison for almost as long as this guy, and we don't know what assurances or promises were made. Also, despite the fact these three all work for Al Jazeera we don't know that there aren't different circumstances in the cases such as this guy pissing off some particular Egyptian apparatchik or other. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Topaz Posted February 27, 2015 Author Report Posted February 27, 2015 Well, it APPEARS the PM isn't doing enough, and yes we don't know what is going on behind the scenes, but for Canadians it does SEEM Harper refuses to make a phone call if it could help get him released. So what would Harper do for other Canadians in the same situation? Quote
PIK Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 Well guyser,enlighten us. Tells us everything about this poor soul, how he was railroaded and evil harper letting him rot in jail in his own country. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Shady Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 I guess they want Harper to get real hawish with Egypt. Quote
guyser Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 Well guyser,enlighten us. Tells us everything about this poor soul, how he was railroaded and evil harper letting him rot in jail in his own country. Just go read how it came to be and the rest will take care of itself. Quote
eyeball Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 I have to say I don't see where we're responsible for what happens to this guy. I don't like to see people unjustly imprisoned, but hey, it happens all over the world every day. Why is this our business? He voluntarily went there knowing the risks. Now it's our fault we haven't pulled him out of the mess he created for himself? So who's brainwave was it to make Egypt a brother in arm's against those who hate our freedoms? Nothing makes us look more like we're being played for suckers than shit like this. Keep up the good work and appearances Harper...ya stupid putz. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Keepitsimple Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 This situation irks me. The media made a big deal out of the Australian reporter being released because their PM called. Big difference - Mohammed Fahmi is an Egyptian citizen - not an Australian. Fahmi also happens to have Canadian citizenship - but after receiving it, he's been out of the country for 15 years working in the Middle East. He was born in Egypt and only lived in Canada for 5 years or so.....so he's much more Egyptian than Canadian.....and THAT'S why he's in more trouble than the Australian. When people make questionable decisions - if not allegiances - we cannot have our Prime Minister running around trying to get them out of jail. That's what diplomats are for - and we've done an awful lot for this ungrateful EGYPTIAN/Canadian. Quote Back to Basics
Black Dog Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 This situation irks me. The media made a big deal out of the Australian reporter being released because their PM called. Big difference - Mohammed Fahmi is an Egyptian citizen - not an Australian. Fahmi also happens to have Canadian citizenship So, no difference at all, then. Citizenship is not contingent upon residency. Quote
PIK Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) So you don't mind having our citizenship worth as much as a prize in a cracker jack box. But it seems to be given out freely to people that don't want to live here. Sorry but to me it worth more then that. What he did in is no different then going to Saudi Arabia and sitting on the beach having a beer and then whine when you are thrown in jail. Edited February 27, 2015 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
eyeball Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 This situation irks me. We've also done a lot to make ourselves more like Egypt. I suspect the sorts charges and the methods by which they were brought to bear against Fahmy will be a lot easier now with things like Bill C-51 coming into force. This situation should actually please you. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
guyser Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 This situation irks me. The media made a big deal out of the Australian reporter being released because their PM called. Big difference - Mohammed Fahmi is an Egyptian citizen - not an Australian.Why would Abbott call the Egyptians about a Canadian citizen? Fahmi also happens to have Canadian citizenship - but after receiving it, he's been out of the country for 15 years working in the Middle East.Please tell us how a foreign journalist is supposed to commute every weekday or weekly back to Canada to satisfy those people in Canada who ignorantly use this 'he's been gone ' approach to denigrate their felow citizens? He was born in Egypt and only lived in Canada for 5 years or so.....so he's much more Egyptian than Canadian.....and THAT'S why he's in more trouble than the Australian.Link please. Good luck with that. By the way, he's Canadian through and through, as much as you are even. Imagine that ! When people make questionable decisions - if not allegiances - we cannot have our Prime Minister running around trying to get them out of jail. That's what diplomats are for - and we've done an awful lot for this ungrateful EGYPTIAN/Canadian.Pure ignorance . Well done ! The PM like the PM of Australia could make a call since they all know the charges are bogus. Quote
eyeball Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 So you don't mind having our citizenship worth as much as a prize in a cracker jack box. But it seems to be given out freely to people that don't want to live here. Sorry but to me it worth more then that. So you don't mind Canada being closely aligned with despotic regimes like Egypt's in the name of freedom from the press? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Black Dog Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 I have to say I don't see where we're responsible for what happens to this guy. I don't like to see people unjustly imprisoned, but hey, it happens all over the world every day. Why is this our business? He voluntarily went there knowing the risks. Now it's our fault we haven't pulled him out of the mess he created for himself? The government has acted on his behalf at all levels, according to what I've read, but we don't own Egypt. We don't control what they do. And we're not going to go to war against Egypt or any other third world country just because one of their citizens gets into trouble there. Oh, he's Canadian? How much time has he spent here? I did see a clip of his wife ecstatic after he was released on bail saying "Egypt, my country, how I love you. I knew you would do the right thing!" so I have to question just what manner of Canadians of convenience these people are. Both he and she have lashed out at the Canadian government for not getting him free while praising the Egyptian government. I don't know if they think that's going to encourage more efforts on their behalf but I doubt it. It sure as hell doesn't impress me. Well his fiancee (not wife) is an Egyptian, not a Canadian. Quote
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