eyeball Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Nobody should be allowed to, for the same reason. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Big Guy Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Posted March 4, 2015 Why not? The only countries that are taken seriously are those who have nuclear capability. China, France, Russia, USA, India, Pakistan, North Korea, Israel are known to have the capability but after the dissolution of the Soviet Union a whole bunch of nuclear weapons have gone "missing". Is China, Russia and North Korea more trustworthy than Iran? I believe that the only reason Iran is being denied the right to nuclear weapons is because Israel wants to be the only country in the region with that capability. Why should they be the only ones? Why trust Israel more than Iran? If Canada wanted to attain nuclear capacity would the USA let us have one? Do you think that Canada should have nuclear capabilities? We keep beefing up our military but are still not taken seriously on the world stage because we do not have the bomb. We used to be seen as an intelligent arbitrator or trusted neutral but with our "US - me too" Harper policy why not really strengthen our military with nuclear weapons? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
eyeball Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Ok, everyone should be allowed to, for the same reason. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Big Guy Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Posted March 4, 2015 To eyeball - My post was a reply to Shady and you posted while I was writing it. I should have made it more clear. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Shady Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 No, they're leadership is certifiably insane. They definitely shouldn't have anything close to nuclear weapons. Quote
sharkman Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 No, they're leadership is certifiably insane. They definitely shouldn't have anything close to nuclear weapons. Bingo. The sad thing is, history is available for Barry any time he wants, but the man is simply too arrogant to bother. The US under Carter(hehe) got North Korea to sign a piece of paper saying they promised to never ever build nukes, and Carter rewarded them with millions of bucks which they used to make the nukes with. Now we have another nutjob nation, looking at history and wondering if the US is still gullible enough to try for the football kick as in the Peanuts cartoon. And the sad thing is, they still believe that getting a nutjob to sign a piece of paper means anything. Or, Barry knows full well what the outcome will be and is willing to look like a fool for Iran's gain, and I'm leaning towards this version more and more. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Bingo. The sad thing is, history is available for Barry any time he wants, but the man is simply too arrogant to bother. The US under Carter(hehe) got North Korea to sign a piece of paper saying they promised to never ever build nukes, and Carter rewarded them with millions of bucks which they used to make the nukes with. Now we have another nutjob nation, looking at history and wondering if the US is still gullible enough to try for the football kick as in the Peanuts cartoon. And the sad thing is, they still believe that getting a nutjob to sign a piece of paper means anything. Or, Barry knows full well what the outcome will be and is willing to look like a fool for Iran's gain, and I'm leaning towards this version more and more. Who the hell is Barry.... Quote
GostHacked Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Who the hell is Barry.... Barry Soetoro. Suspected of being his real last name. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Barry Soetoro. Suspected of being his real last name. Oh right, the old Trump mentality. Quote
eyeball Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 No, they're leadership is certifiably insane. They definitely shouldn't have anything close to nuclear weapons.Their leadership is no more or less irrational than anyone else. How do you think you'd feel if you lived just down the road from a nuclear armed country that was busy comparing you to the worst genocidal regime in the history of the known universe?You don't think you'd want some way to protect yourself or deter them from acting on their fears? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
marcus Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) No, they're leadership is certifiably insane. They definitely shouldn't have anything close to nuclear weapons. What is certifiably insane? Can you post something other than empty Fox and Friends one-liners? Your declaration is great and all, but I think the Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff of the U.S. government has a bit more credibility than you. The government of Iran does engage in human rights abuses and sponsors militants and terrorist groups, but if anything, they're not "insane". Even the U.S. officials have called Iran "rational": Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey said that it is. Dempsey underscored the importance of this assertion when he said that it was based on this conclusion — that the regime is a "rational actor" I mean, Israel also engages in human rights violations and engages in state terrorism, so if anything, it's Israel that the world should be worried about. They are an aggressive country who attacks its neighbours on a regular basis, engages in assassinations and who continuously says that "all options are on the table". The Iranian government's human rights violations is limited to their own people, while Israel does it against those who it's occupying and a percentage of its own population that doesn't follow the same religion (Muslims) or have light enough skin colour (Ethiopians). Edited March 4, 2015 by marcus Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
GostHacked Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Hopefully Bibi trots out the bomb graph that he pulled out at the UN and drew the 'red line'. When Israel comes clean about it's nuclear programs, then they can start pointing fingers at others. Quote
marcus Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Over 60 Members of US Congress skipped out on Bibi's speech. Majority of Americans have said that they did not support the speech. Times are changing. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 The US Congress has 535 voting members....a lot more than 60. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 How many US Senators/politicians hold dual citizenship with the US and Israel.????? That might be a bit more telling of the real influence in America. Quote
marcus Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 The US Congress has 535 voting members....a lot more than 60. Looks like a breakable bond to me. But as it has been mentioned before, who cares about the 60 Members of Congress, they are useless like the rest of them. The majority of Americans (you, not being one of them), disapproved of the speech. Times are changing. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Looks like a breakable bond to me. But as it has been mentioned before, who cares about the 60 Members of Congress, they are useless like the rest of them. The majority of Americans (you, not being one of them), disapproved of the speech. Times are changing. Time are changing ? No....you are still watching from the sidelines in Canada....not relevant to the American process. A majority of Americans also wanted the KXL pipeline approved. Times will really change when the war comes.... Edited March 4, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
sharkman Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Over 60 Members of US Congress skipped out on Bibi's speech. Majority of Americans have said that they did not support the speech. Times are changing. What source do you have that says a majority of Americans "did not support" the speech? You're not just making stuff up again, are you? Here's a link from GALLUP that says Netanyahu's favourable rating has improved in the U.S. Weird, eh? Times are changing indeed. Edited March 4, 2015 by sharkman Quote
Shady Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Only in Obama's America can a speech by an ally be considered hostile. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Some Americans did not like the broken protocol and politics of the speech, not so much the content. Bibi is no stranger to American audiences...he is much better known than PM Harper. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Rue Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Hopefully Bibi trots out the bomb graph that he pulled out at the UN and drew the 'red line'. When Israel comes clean about it's nuclear programs, then they can start pointing fingers at others. Why do they have to come clean. Are you suggesting no one knows they have the BOMB. Lol. Quote
Rue Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Some Americans did not like the broken protocol and politics of the speech, not so much the content. Bibi is no stranger to American audiences...he is much better known than PM Harper. Exactly the content is not the issue. Its the broken protocol and the politics of it. Edited March 4, 2015 by Rue Quote
Rue Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 The majority of Americans (you, not being one of them), disapproved of the speech. Here we go again...and youy know this how...wait don't tell me as well as being a fighter for truth and justice you now speak on behalf of all Americans. Quote
Hudson Jones Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 What source do you have that says a majority of Americans "did not support" the speech? You're not just making stuff up again, are you? Here's a link from GALLUP that says Netanyahu's favourable rating has improved in the U.S. Weird, eh? Times are changing indeed. Here you go Sharky: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite The nationwide poll, released Tuesday, shows 63% of Americans say it was a bad move for congressional leadership to extend the invitation without giving President Barack Obama a heads up that it was coming. Only 33% say it was the right thing to do. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
sharkman Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Here you go Sharky: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite The nationwide poll, released Tuesday, shows 63% of Americans say it was a bad move for congressional leadership to extend the invitation without giving President Barack Obama a heads up that it was coming. Only 33% say it was the right thing to do. A swing and a miss. That poll says nothing about whether Americans "support the speech" as "Marcus" said. Quote
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