marcus Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 Yay for Harper! What does the world, including Canada think? http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Poll-Israel-viewed-negatively-around-the-world Israel retained its position as one of the world's most negatively-viewed countries, according to BBC's annual poll published Wednesday night. With 50 percent of respondents ranking Israel negatively, Israel keeps company with North Korea, and places ahead of only Iran (55% negative) and Pakistan (51% negative). Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Bonam Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 Yay for Harper! What does the world, including Canada think? http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Poll-Israel-viewed-negatively-around-the-world Israel retained its position as one of the world's most negatively-viewed countries, according to BBC's annual poll published Wednesday night. With 50 percent of respondents ranking Israel negatively, Israel keeps company with North Korea, and places ahead of only Iran (55% negative) and Pakistan (51% negative). Thanks for the giant font. You really think what you say is so important that it needs to be in giant letters? Anyway, survey says a lot more about the gullibility and ignorance of the people polled than it does about Israel. Quote
GostHacked Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 Why do they have to come clean. Are you suggesting no one knows they have the BOMB. Lol. Israel does not even confirm the status of their nuclear program. So what are we to think? You agree there is a double standard there. Quote
Big Guy Posted March 5, 2015 Author Report Posted March 5, 2015 I was surprised at the Republican move to invite Bibi against the wishes of the White House. There is an old Bedouin proverb, "Me against my brother; me and my brother against our cousin; and me, my brother and my cousin against the stranger." I believe that the point of that proverb is that levels of allegiance expand from the center. I know I was very uncomfortable when Harper appeared to be the first Canadian PM who used the world stage to criticize opposition parties. In most democracies, inter party differences are kept as domestic interactions and not to be discussed at the international level. A democracy is represented by its democratically elected leadership and when the leader of a country speaks, he/she speaks for the whole country. Your country must supersede domestic squabbles when you are dealing with the rest of the world. I think what Harper did and what the Republicans did was wrong and I hope not precedent setting. Any country loses credibility when it undermines its duly elected system to satisfy the agenda of a political party. The USA will eventually have a Republican president and Canada will have a Liberal PM. Once a precedent has been set it is easy to repeat. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
marcus Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Anyway, survey says a lot more about the gullibility and ignorance of the people polled than it does about Israel. So everyone around the world is anti-semitic. This has nothing to do with Israel's actions and your denial? Edited March 5, 2015 by marcus Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 How soon people forget that it was a Senator Obama who visited Berlin to give his best JFK impression to about 200,000 people. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
marcus Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 How soon people forget that it was a Senator Obama who visited Berlin to give his best JFK impression to about 200,000 people. Your rate of bad comparisons is quite high compared to others. Not sure why you have this deficiency. Obama gave his speech after winning the presidency and he wasn't in Berlin to undermine the German government and push for Germany to go into war on behalf of the U.S., instead negotiating for peace. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 Wrong...as usual. Candidate Obama first went to Germany in 2008...after visiting Israel. The sitting U.S. president was George W. Bush. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 Trained seals is a better description of some Canadians worship of Obama. Quote
marcus Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 Wrong...as usual. Candidate Obama first went to Germany in 2008...after visiting Israel. The sitting U.S. president was George W. Bush. My mistake. You are correct about the time it was done. It is still a bad comparison. Most of what I said still stands. He was not there to undermine the Germany chancellor and push Germany into a war on behalf of U.S. instead of negotiating a peace deal. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Mighty AC Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Trained seals is a better description of some Canadians worship of Obama. The proverb quoted by Big Guy is apt. The republicans applauded a man, who collects billions in aid and equipment, that criticized the US, the POTUS, and their foreign policy while standing in congress. That is not just bad form, but quite embarrassing for the country. Edited March 5, 2015 by Mighty AC Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 My mistake. You are correct about the time it was done. It is still a bad comparison. Most of what I said still stands. He was not there to undermine the Germany chancellor and push Germany into a war on behalf of U.S. instead of negotiating a peace deal. Actually, he would proceed to spy on the German chancellor with the help of the NSA. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 The proverb quoted by Big Guy is apt. The republicans applauded a man, who collects billions in aid and equipment, that criticized the US, the POTUS, and their foreign policy while standing in congress. That is not just bad form, but quite embarrassing for the country.Complete nonsense. He doesn't collect any money. The state does, regardless of who's PM. And he has every right to voice concerns over a nuclear deal that he has no input on, but has to live under. Furthermore, as an equal branch of government, congress has every right to invite him to speak. Not to mention that congress has foreign policy oversight responsibilities. This is all much ado about nothing. Get over it already. Quote
marcus Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 Actually, he would proceed to spy on the German chancellor with the help of the NSA. Once again, irrelevant and a bad attempt at drawing a parallel. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 Once again, irrelevant and a bad attempt at drawing a parallel. President Obama would go on to wage more wars...not peace. The parallels are obvious except for those who refuse to see. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
marcus Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 The proverb quoted by Big Guy is apt. The republicans applauded a man, who collects billions in aid and equipment, that criticized the US, the POTUS, and their foreign policy while standing in congress. That is not just bad form, but quite embarrassing for the country. All Bibi has done is to take Israel to one of its darkest eras. The arrogance. The bullying. The lack of appreciation. It's like watching some spoiled teenage girl, kicking her father in the balls, while crying for more. The only positive out of this is that Bibi has contributed in accelerating the end of the Apartheid regime by drawing attention to the plight of the Palestinians to the masses. It's not a coincidence that Israel is viewed so negatively around the world. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Mighty AC Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 Complete nonsense. He doesn't collect any money. The state does, regardless of who's PM. And he has every right to voice concerns over a nuclear deal that he has no input on, but has to live under. Furthermore, as an equal branch of government, congress has every right to invite him to speak. Not to mention that congress has foreign policy oversight responsibilities. This is all much ado about nothing. Get over it already. The republicans clapped while Bibi insulted their POTUS, and their country's foreign policy. That's not nothing. Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
Big Guy Posted March 5, 2015 Author Report Posted March 5, 2015 To Shady - How would you feel if a committee of the Canadian Senate invited Ali Khamenei, or Putin to come to speak about Canadian the anti-terror bill in direct opposition to the PMO? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 Americans are permitted to insult the POTUS...Canadians do it all the time. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
marcus Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) President Obama would go on to wage more wars...not peace. The parallels are obvious except for those who refuse to see. Merkil and the German people welcomed Obama with open arms. Obama and the American people, not so much towards Bibi. Obama did not undermine Merkil's foreign policy plans and openly criticize Merkil. Netanyahu has been repeatedly criticizing Obama before he became president. He even put an ad up in Florida, openly criticizing Obama and endorsing his opponent. Your attempt at drawing a parallel failed again. There is a reason no one likes the spoiled, arrogant little girl (the prostitutes in Congress and the Zionist zealots not included). Edited March 5, 2015 by marcus Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 ...There is a reason no one likes the spoiled, arrogant little girl. ???? What is the relevance of this sexist conclusion ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 The proverb quoted by Big Guy is apt. The republicans applauded a man, who collects billions in aid and equipment, that criticized the US, the POTUS, and their foreign policy while standing in congress. That is not just bad form, but quite embarrassing for the country. Well said and I would add embarrassing for himself. He kept on making references to WWII, sometimes attempting to be subtle, sometimes not. Also he tried to tie ISIS to Iran, kind of the way Bush tried to tie Al Qaeda to Saddam. He of course ignored the fact that he was a strong supporter of Bush in his Iraq war which kind of backfired as it left Iran with much more power in the region. Its no wonder the speech was not so well received by those beyond the those.....clapping monkeys....(not my term), in congress. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 To Shady - How would you feel if a committee of the Canadian Senate invited Ali Khamenei, or Putin to come to speak about Canadian the anti-terror bill in direct opposition to the PMO? Well at least that might give Harper justifiable reason for one of his tantrums. Quote
Shady Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 To Shady - How would you feel if a committee of the Canadian Senate invited Ali Khamenei, or Putin to come to speak about Canadian the anti-terror bill in direct opposition to the PMO? Are those long time allies? So in your world, inviting a Prime Minister of an ally is equivilant to inviting a homocidal dictator? That's completely absurd. Quote
Shady Posted March 5, 2015 Report Posted March 5, 2015 Well at least that might give Harper justifiable reason for one of his tantrums. Which tantrums? Quote
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