bush_cheney2004 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 And if the police don't act, don't go out and protect people what then? Oh yeah, "see, these cops won't protect us, they hate us, if this was a white neighbourhood....". Exactly.....the police can't win either way. In such settings, the person most likely to shoot you or your kids is not a police officer. This case will not be adjudicated here or in the media. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
guyser Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 And if the police don't act, don't go out and protect people what then? Oh yeah, "see, these cops won't protect us, they hate us, if this was a white neighbourhood....".What you think Cops down there protect anyone but their own? Ever heard of Philly? They are openly admitting they dont care. Ever heard of the CNE branch of the TPS? They are consumate FIDO operaters and wont go on calls if they dont feel like it. Quote
Mighty AC Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Ok, I thought you were suggesting the "shot while running away" theory. I believe he was shot at, while running away. However, the witness and pathologist reports suggest the direct hits happened when Brown stopped and turned to face Wilson. Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
Hal 9000 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 What you think Cops down there protect anyone but their own? Ever heard of Philly? They are openly admitting they dont care. Ever heard of the CNE branch of the TPS? They are consumate FIDO operaters and wont go on calls if they dont feel like it. As a matter of fact; I do. I think if the cops weren't standing there, Ferguson would be burned to the ground and there'd be shootings (moreso) in the streets. Haven't we all seen how quickly riots get out of hand? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) Yep.....I actually lived many years in "Philly" (was born there) and it is/was a war zone in some neighbourhoods. Most police officers cared a lot more than reported here by a pretender from across the border. Edited August 20, 2014 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hal 9000 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 What i'm curious about, and i'll admit I haven't seen everything on this (very little actually) is distances. Johnson said he hid behind car, it was reported that Wilson started chase on Brown, brown apparently stopped - may have doubled back, it was said that Brown dropped only about 3 feet from Wilson, yet witnesses said he was 35 feet away, in the pictures there are no cars in the area to hide behind - how far away were they? Just some questions that might shed some light. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Argus Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) Not conclusive. You're presuming the bullets circumnavigated the earth and hit him from the opposite direction? I don't believe hand guns have that kind of range, and even if they did that cop would have to be a heck of a shot... Edited August 20, 2014 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
guyser Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Yep.....I actually lived many years in "Philly" (was born there) and it is/was a war zone in some neighbourhoods. Most police officers cared a lot more than reported here by a pretender from across the border. Operative word...cared. You moved a long time ago . Most dont give a shit now, pretty much the same way back although things were a bit better. A pretender across the border, boy you a pissy thin skinned one arent you? I have ties to Philly, maybe you do too, but either way, the cops there suck donkey balls. Pretender... Quote
Argus Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 I swiped a porno mag from a drugstore when I was 17 and that thought never crossed my mind thereafter. Your ability to read the minds of dead people from thousands of miles away is pretty spectacular though. Did you grab the store clerk by the scruff of the neck and shove him into a display case? Did you attack a cop on the street afterward? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Bad idea, people tend not to like violations, and gross violations, of their rights . There'a s right to riot in the US constitution? No one has suggested the state does not have the right to impose a curfew. Once a curfew is imposed anyone on the street is breaking the law and subject to arrest. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Operative word...cared. You moved a long time ago . Most dont give a shit now, pretty much the same way back although things were a bit better. Backtracking now to "most" eh ? Typical. And still nonsense for a large force that has to care to get through the day. A pretender across the border, boy you a pissy thin skinned one arent you? I have ties to Philly, maybe you do too, but either way, the cops there suck donkey balls. Pretender... You got nothing....but America's Google . I've got a birth certificate. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Operative word...cared. You moved a long time ago . Most dont give a shit now, pretty much the same way back although things were a bit better. A pretender across the border, boy you a pissy thin skinned one arent you? I have ties to Philly, maybe you do too, but either way, the cops there suck donkey balls. Pretender... Unacceptable and reported. Quote
guyser Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 There'a s right to riot in the US constitution?Huh? No one has suggested the state does not have the right to impose a curfew. Once a curfew is imposed anyone on the street is breaking the law and subject to arrest.I am suggesting they dont....and they dont without liberal exceptions. Anyone?....Not a chance. Back to Const law for you amigo Quote
guyser Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Unacceptable and reported.And another thin skinned poster shows true colours. Micheal Sam embarassed you again huh? Quote
Black Dog Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Posted August 20, 2014 Did you grab the store clerk by the scruff of the neck and shove him into a display case? Did you attack a cop on the street afterward? I think you've lost track of the conversation. It's one thing to push around a small middle aged clerk, another to attack a cop and try to take his gun. The latter doesn't follow from the former. Quote
eyeball Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 This case will not be adjudicated here or in the media. No, it's being adjudicated in the court of public opinion and the streets. Got popcorn? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Black Dog Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Posted August 20, 2014 And if the police don't act, don't go out and protect people what then? Oh yeah, "see, these cops won't protect us, they hate us, if this was a white neighbourhood....". It's been suggested by many protesters and by police with experience in crowd control techniques that the police response is what precipitated the riots in the first place. It may surprise you, but most people, regardless of their background, don't respond well to the people who are supposed to uphold the peace pointing guns at them. Quote
Shady Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 And another thin skinned poster shows true colours. Micheal Sam embarassed you again huh? Nothing for me to be embarrassed about. I don't think he would clear waivers for a few reasons. Regardless, it's no excuse for your continued gutter responses. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 It's been suggested by many protesters and by police with experience in crowd control techniques that the police response is what precipitated the riots in the first place. It may surprise you, but most people, regardless of their background, don't respond well to the people who are supposed to uphold the peace pointing guns at them. So, you find it a coincidence that some of the protesters just happened to be carrying molotov cocktails, guns and bandanas? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
eyeball Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 I'm surprised more aren't carrying them. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
guyser Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 It's been suggested by many protesters and by police with experience in crowd control techniques that the police response is what precipitated the riots in the first place. It may surprise you, but most people, regardless of their background, don't respond well to the people who are supposed to uphold the peace pointing guns at them....and arriving at a memorial and trmapling all over it.....while guns are pointed atop APC's. Stuck on stupid the cops were. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 I'm surprised more aren't carrying them. I'm surprised more aren't carrying them. Of course! And, I suppose if the police stayed home it would be a peaceful love-in. C'mon, these people are shooting each other with the police standing right there, what do you think would happen if the police just stayed home? Maybe we should find out! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
guyser Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 what do you think would happen if the police just stayed home? Maybe we should find out!One kid would still be alive. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 People living in an "urban" war zone need the police more than ever. Thankless job often criticized by those who can't or won't do it. We had a police officer killed last month at a routine traffic stop by a perp who didn't want to go back to jail for open warrants. Shot the officer in the head as he approached the driver side window. There was no riot....no protests....no national media trucks...no Al Sharpton...no threads on this web site about (another) dead cop. But there was an 8 mile long funeral procession...and thousands of mourners paying their respects. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hal 9000 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 One kid would still be alive. Yes! Very clever! I'm sure you don't really believe that a community (black or white) is better off if the police stay away. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
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