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Looks like the "macho" confrontational attitude got a little out of hand.

Any time there is a confrontation between a car and a guy, I'll bet on the car.

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I hear Sprint cars have very poor visibility. Stewart is known to be a prickly kind of guy, but I really doubt he intentionally hit Kevin Ward. I hate to speak ill of the dead, but the Darwin award is being discussed for a reason.

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Depends if stewart saw him or not. The driver in front of stewart DID see him and swerved way wide. If Stewart knew he was there but didnt take steps to avoid a collision then its negligence causing death, even though I doubt Stewart MEANT to hit him.

I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger

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There's a faction that believe, largely based on Stewart's history of being a hothead, that this was done on purpose.

The car is seen to being sped up as it hits the guy. I've also heard experts say that these type of cars are meant to drift so you need to accelerate to turn.

Either way it's basically impossible to prove intent here.

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There's a faction that, largely based on Stewart's history of being a hothead, that this was done on purpose.

Yup. And he may not be out of hot water yet.

Either way it's basically impossible to prove intent here.

Actually there is a faction who think the opposite.

Some have said they could hear Stewart hit the gas, and they know, as does Stewart that his back end would drift, thus he may have been trying to bump the kid, but either way, if correct, he could well be in hot water.

The charge I am not sure of, but think of it as someone crossing the street on a red and you hit them. The thought being you saw them, you knew the danger yet you did it anyway.

Who knows how this will play out.

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Tony Stewart won't get charged.

Kevin Ward Jr. Was high on weed when he decided to get out of his race car. Who says MJ doesn't kill. :P

The family still wants to sue Stewart, not sure if they have a case.

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http://www.sportingnews.com/nascar/story/2014-09-24/tony-stewart-investigation-grand-jury-decision-kevin-ward-jr-death-accident-marijuana-toxicology-report

“There is toxicology evidence in the case relating to Kevin Ward that actually indicated that at time of operation he was under the influence of marijuana,” District Attorney Michael Tantillo said during a news conference Wednesday afternoon.

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I would hope that the racing community is outraged. We have a popular driver who is "impaired" while driving at high speeds in close proximity to other human controlled vehicles. Those around him must have known that he was smoking up and still allowed him into the car to drive the race. Good grief! These folks have to be missing a few gears.

I assume that this sport has random testing for illegal drug use and reacts appropriately.

And the parents plan to sue - sue who? Those jerks who let him into the car I hope.

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I would hope that the racing community is outraged. We have a popular driver who is "impaired" while driving at high speeds in close proximity to other human controlled vehicles. Those around him must have known that he was smoking up and still allowed him into the car to drive the race. Good grief! These folks have to be missing a few gears.

I assume that this sport has random testing for illegal drug use and reacts appropriately.

And the parents plan to sue - sue who? Those jerks who let him into the car I hope.

Ward was impaired. Not Stewart.

This was a podunk track not a big Nascar track. Even if Nascar does race-day drug testing I doubt it would move its way down to the sticks.

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I doubt there's much in the way of drug testing going on and that it's probably safe to assume a lot of these folks will test positive for pot before, during or after these races/events.

The adrenaline and chemicals associated with anger coursing through Kevin Ward probably had way more effect on his judgement.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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Just out of curiosity, have any of you actually been to a dirt track race? I've been to Eldora Speedway in Ohio and I've also gone to dirt track races in Southwestern Ontario.

Eldora at the time (before Stewart dumped millions into fixing it up) didn't even have doors on the bathroom stalls. It's literally out in the middle of farmers' fields.

Do you really think they're drug testing these people?

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Has anyone been to Mosport race track on a night when there are no events? You could just drive onto the track and race away to your hearts content when I was a kid. Surely they must have put a stop to that by now.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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To me something smells fishy.

The DA doesnt say how much was in the system of Ward, but does say it was enough to impair judgement.

How does he know 1) how much that is and 2)did he Grd from Med school?

Knowing the metabolic rate at which it leaves your system, he could easily have smoked it the night before and been sober as a judge at the track.

Under NY law, Stewart does not have to give either a breath or blood sample. Wanna bet Tony drank a beer sometime that afternoon at the track? He was there for shits and giggles.

Man, someday the US will wake up and stop the stupidity of elected DA's. The DA's terrotory is full of NASCAR fans, some of whom would prob string him up if charges were laid.

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