Boges Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_0mk1xk3f/ That looks like Darwin doing his job to be honest. Who on earth thinks jumping in front of a race car is a good idea? Perhaps Stewart should have noticed the crazy person yelling at him, but still, who would have expected someone doing something that dumb? Edited August 11, 2014 by Boges Quote
Shady Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 I think the guy running out in front of speeding cars. Quote
The_Squid Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 Don't run out in front of a speeding race car, even one that has slowed for yellow flags. Quote
Big Guy Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 Looks like the "macho" confrontational attitude got a little out of hand. Any time there is a confrontation between a car and a guy, I'll bet on the car. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 Maybe he should have used some ducks to stop Stewart's car. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted August 11, 2014 Author Report Posted August 11, 2014 Maybe he should have used some ducks to stop Stewart's car. I knew that comparison would come into play at some point. Quote
Mighty AC Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) I hear Sprint cars have very poor visibility. Stewart is known to be a prickly kind of guy, but I really doubt he intentionally hit Kevin Ward. I hate to speak ill of the dead, but the Darwin award is being discussed for a reason. Edited August 12, 2014 by Mighty AC Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
dre Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 Depends if stewart saw him or not. The driver in front of stewart DID see him and swerved way wide. If Stewart knew he was there but didnt take steps to avoid a collision then its negligence causing death, even though I doubt Stewart MEANT to hit him. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
waldo Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 I knew that comparison would come into play at some point. not a good idea... just look what happened in one example in the U.S. - Florida! (for all 'those', per the related MLW thread, so intent on focusing in on the recent Quebec event). Quote
GostHacked Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 If the car is not on fire, you stay in it for protection. Wait until the rescue crew arrives. Quote
Boges Posted August 12, 2014 Author Report Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) There's a faction that believe, largely based on Stewart's history of being a hothead, that this was done on purpose. The car is seen to being sped up as it hits the guy. I've also heard experts say that these type of cars are meant to drift so you need to accelerate to turn. Either way it's basically impossible to prove intent here. Edited August 12, 2014 by Boges Quote
guyser Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 There's a faction that, largely based on Stewart's history of being a hothead, that this was done on purpose.Yup. And he may not be out of hot water yet. Either way it's basically impossible to prove intent here.Actually there is a faction who think the opposite. Some have said they could hear Stewart hit the gas, and they know, as does Stewart that his back end would drift, thus he may have been trying to bump the kid, but either way, if correct, he could well be in hot water. The charge I am not sure of, but think of it as someone crossing the street on a red and you hit them. The thought being you saw them, you knew the danger yet you did it anyway. Who knows how this will play out. Quote
Boges Posted September 25, 2014 Author Report Posted September 25, 2014 Tony Stewart won't get charged. Kevin Ward Jr. Was high on weed when he decided to get out of his race car. Who says MJ doesn't kill. The family still wants to sue Stewart, not sure if they have a case. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 http://www.sportingnews.com/nascar/story/2014-09-24/tony-stewart-investigation-grand-jury-decision-kevin-ward-jr-death-accident-marijuana-toxicology-report “There is toxicology evidence in the case relating to Kevin Ward that actually indicated that at time of operation he was under the influence of marijuana,” District Attorney Michael Tantillo said during a news conference Wednesday afternoon. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Big Guy Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 I would hope that the racing community is outraged. We have a popular driver who is "impaired" while driving at high speeds in close proximity to other human controlled vehicles. Those around him must have known that he was smoking up and still allowed him into the car to drive the race. Good grief! These folks have to be missing a few gears. I assume that this sport has random testing for illegal drug use and reacts appropriately. And the parents plan to sue - sue who? Those jerks who let him into the car I hope. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Boges Posted September 25, 2014 Author Report Posted September 25, 2014 I would hope that the racing community is outraged. We have a popular driver who is "impaired" while driving at high speeds in close proximity to other human controlled vehicles. Those around him must have known that he was smoking up and still allowed him into the car to drive the race. Good grief! These folks have to be missing a few gears. I assume that this sport has random testing for illegal drug use and reacts appropriately. And the parents plan to sue - sue who? Those jerks who let him into the car I hope. Ward was impaired. Not Stewart. This was a podunk track not a big Nascar track. Even if Nascar does race-day drug testing I doubt it would move its way down to the sticks. Quote
cybercoma Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 Calms the nerves when driving fast/ Quote
eyeball Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 I doubt there's much in the way of drug testing going on and that it's probably safe to assume a lot of these folks will test positive for pot before, during or after these races/events. The adrenaline and chemicals associated with anger coursing through Kevin Ward probably had way more effect on his judgement. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
cybercoma Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 Just out of curiosity, have any of you actually been to a dirt track race? I've been to Eldora Speedway in Ohio and I've also gone to dirt track races in Southwestern Ontario.Eldora at the time (before Stewart dumped millions into fixing it up) didn't even have doors on the bathroom stalls. It's literally out in the middle of farmers' fields.Do you really think they're drug testing these people? Quote
eyeball Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 Has anyone been to Mosport race track on a night when there are no events? You could just drive onto the track and race away to your hearts content when I was a kid. Surely they must have put a stop to that by now. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
guyser Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 To me something smells fishy. The DA doesnt say how much was in the system of Ward, but does say it was enough to impair judgement. How does he know 1) how much that is and 2)did he Grd from Med school? Knowing the metabolic rate at which it leaves your system, he could easily have smoked it the night before and been sober as a judge at the track. Under NY law, Stewart does not have to give either a breath or blood sample. Wanna bet Tony drank a beer sometime that afternoon at the track? He was there for shits and giggles. Man, someday the US will wake up and stop the stupidity of elected DA's. The DA's terrotory is full of NASCAR fans, some of whom would prob string him up if charges were laid. Quote
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