Khadr Wins Transfer

[Topaz]

After listening to Khadr over on CBC, he seems to be a very nice person and he said when asked would he like to say anything to the PM, he said that he's a nicer person than Harper thinks he is and he thanked the Canadians public for their support and he will prove to be a good person. Given the chance he may prove to better a much better person than the Tories MP's and PM that are against him.

[Hal 9000]

When that dude pulls off a terrorist attack...and he will, maybe the lefties will wise up and stop coddling these terrorists.

[bush_cheney2004]

The USA calling anyone a terrorist is laughable in the extreme.

No, it actually works....look now...Canada is bombing terrorists right now with U.S. made weapons. It's true....

[On Guard for Thee]

When that dude pulls off a terrorist attack...and he will, maybe the lefties will wise up and stop coddling these terrorists.

Nope, hes going to become the poster boy for why not to go to Iraq or Syria etc., and become radicalized. Probably end up being well paid for speaking engagements.

[Hal 9000]

He is what he was born and bred to be...a terrorist! Sorry

[On Guard for Thee]

He is what he was born and bred to be...a terrorist! Sorry

So I guess you are trying to tell us terrorism comes from genes. That comment is what you should be sorry for.

[Hal 9000]

So I guess you are trying to tell us terrorism comes from genes. That comment is what you should be sorry for.

It's not genetics. It's social, environmental and natural.

[GostHacked]

Freedom with an ankle bracelet.

[Je suis Omar]

He is what he was born and bred to be...a terrorist! Sorry

You really ought to get up to speed on just who the terrorists are, Hal. The notion of the greatest terrorist group on the planet, the USA, trying anyone else for terrorism/war crimes is ludicrous.

The USA committed the ultimate war crime invading Afghanistan. The USA has been using the Afghan people as cannon fodder for some 40 years now.

The USA are, have always been, world class liars. Had you been in Guantanamo you too would have been tortured into confessing.

[On Guard for Thee]

It's not genetics. It's social, environmental and natural.

He apparently had some bad influences which occurred over what is now over half of his life span ago. The people who are actually qualified to make such determinations conclude he was a model prisoner unlikely to pose a threat. And then there is this old concept that you should maybe consider, that when you invade a country and start shooting people, dont get all GD sucky if one of yours gets it.

[Je suis Omar]

Blaney: When asked repeatedly to respond to Edney's characterization of Harper as "a bigot," Blaney avoided directly answering the question but eventually said: "Well, you know this is a court case. There are views that have been presented to the judge and I think that in all we I think we deserve respect.

"Everybody deserves respect. Everybody has [their] own views. I have great admiration for Prime Minister Harper, who has taken a strong stance for victims over the course of the last decade."

Why would/should any same person have respect for those who actively support and join in with war criminals and terrorists?

The invasion of Afghanistan was just one example, in a long line of illegal invasions by the USA as is defined by international law.

Whenever the USA sets out to "liberate", tens/hundreds of thousands, million of innocents die directly at the hands of vicious USA bombings and weapons of mass destruction.

[Hal 9000]

You really ought to get up to speed on just who the terrorists are, Hal. The notion of the greatest terrorist group on the planet, the USA, trying anyone else for terrorism/war crimes is ludicrous.

The USA committed the ultimate war crime invading Afghanistan. The USA has been using the Afghan people as cannon fodder for some 40 years now.

The USA are, have always been, world class liars. Had you been in Guantanamo you too would have been tortured into confessing.

Yes, we get it! the USA are terrorists! Guess what? I'm not going to play the whole we're terrorists, you're terrorists...so i guess we're all the same. If this is true, I'll take the side of the terrorists killing Muslims over the terrorists killing Christians every time. We're all choosing a side...aren't we?

[Je suis Omar]

He apparently had some bad influences which occurred over what is now over half of his life span ago. The people who are actually qualified to make such determinations conclude he was a model prisoner unlikely to pose a threat. And then there is this old concept that you should maybe consider, that when you invade a country and start shooting people, dont get all GD sucky if one of yours gets it.

You forgot the operative word, OGFT, that goes in front of 'invade' - ILLEGALLY!

[Hal 9000]

He apparently had some bad influences which occurred over what is now over half of his life span ago. The people who are actually qualified to make such determinations conclude he was a model prisoner unlikely to pose a threat. And then there is this old concept that you should maybe consider, that when you invade a country and start shooting people, dont get all GD sucky if one of yours gets it.

If he feels like he had a right to do what he did, fair enough. The question is; does he still feel that way? My money say's yes, he still feels the same...and why not, I assume you still have the same views as you did years ago.

[jbg]

The USA doesn't do the rule of law. It excels at torture, murder, rape, thievery, lying and propaganda.

Strange days indeed. You consider it patriotic to support American war crimes/criminals and terrorists.

These sorts of posts make it difficult to treat you seriously. Slogans, not reasoning.

[Je suis Omar]

Yes, we get it! the USA are terrorists! Guess what? I'm not going to play the whole we're terrorists, you're terrorists...so i guess we're all the same. If this is true, I'll take the side of the terrorists killing Muslims over the terrorists killing Christians every time. We're all choosing a side...aren't we?

No, we're not all doing something so knee jerk as "choosing a side". Some of us have a sense of morality, we think that the rule of law is important, and that countries that espouse the rule of law should follow those principles.

Obama's Af-Pak War is Illegal

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In 1945, in the wake of two wars that claimed millions of lives, the nations of the world created the United Nations system to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war. The UN Charter is based on the principles of international peace and security as well as the protection of human rights. But the United States, one of the founding members of the UN, has often flouted the commands of the charter, which is part of US law under the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution.

Although the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan was as illegal as the invasion of Iraq, many Americans saw it as a justifiable response to the attacks of September 11, 2001. The cover of Time magazine called it "The Right War." Obama campaigned on ending the Iraq war but escalating the war in Afghanistan. But a majority of Americans now oppose that war as well.

The UN Charter provides that all member states must settle their international disputes by peaceful means, and no nation can use military force except in self-defense or when authorized by the Security Council. After the 9/11 attacks, the council passed two resolutions, neither of which authorized the use of military force in Afghanistan.

Operation Enduring Freedom was not legitimate self-defense under the charter because the 9/11 attacks were crimes against humanity, not armed attacks by another country. Afghanistan did not attack the United States. In fact, 15 of the 19 hijackers hailed from Saudi Arabia. Furthermore, there was not an imminent threat of an armed attack on the United States after 9/11, or President Bush would not have waited three weeks before initiating his October 2001 bombing campaign. The necessity for self-defense must be instant, overwhelming, leaving no choice of means, and no moment for deliberation. This classic principle of self-defense in international law has been affirmed by the Nuremberg Tribunal and the UN General Assembly.

Bush's justification for attacking Afghanistan was that it was harboring Osama bin Laden and training terrorists, even though bin Laden did not claim responsibility for the 9/11 attacks until 2004. After Bush demanded that the Taliban turn over bin Laden to the United States, the Talibans ambassador to Pakistan said his government wanted proof that bin Laden was involved in the 9/11 attacks before deciding whether to extradite him, according to the Washington Post. That proof was not forthcoming, the Taliban did not deliver bin Laden, and Bush began bombing Afghanistan.

http://www.marjoriecohn.com/2009/12/obamas-af-pak-war-is-illegal.html?m=1

[Je suis Omar]

These sorts of posts make it difficult to treat you seriously. Slogans, not reasoning.

See the post,

Obama's Af-Pak War is Illegal

Just before this one.

Edited May 8, 2015 by Je suis Omar

[On Guard for Thee]

If he feels like he had a right to do what he did, fair enough. The question is; does he still feel that way? My money say's yes, he still feels the same...and why not, I assume you still have the same views as you did years ago.

And your assumption would again be wrong. Years ago I laughed at racist jokes. I have long since decided I find such humor repugnant. Humans hav the ability to learn and evolve.

[Je suis Omar]

These sorts of posts make it difficult to treat you seriously. Slogans, not reasoning.

If you possessed the honesty necessary to discuss the following, I could prove it to you in a short number of posts.

"The USA doesn't do the rule of law. It excels at torture, murder, rape, thievery, lying and propaganda."

Notice I used the irrealis mood, above, because I am aware of who I am addressing.

[Hal 9000]

You forgot the operative word, OGFT, that goes in front of 'invade' - ILLEGALLY!

What of it? Legal or illegal is just politics. Why do the Americans have to get legal permission...and from whom? Their left wing counterparts, the UN? Sorry, when the Taliban, Hamas, Hesbollah, ISIS, Al Queida etc. don't need rules, why should the americans?

[Je suis Omar]

What of it? Legal or illegal is just politics. Why do the Americans have to get legal permission...and from whom? Their left wing counterparts, the UN? Sorry, when the Taliban, Hamas, Hesbollah, ISIS, Al Queida etc. don't need rules, why should the americans?

The Americans need to follow the very rules/laws that the Americans themselves established, and used to hang Nazis, just like everyone else.

Surely you have noticed how the Americans have used these rules to hypocritically try "war criminals"; they constantly and hypocritically rail against others who don't come anywhere close to what the USA has done in terms of volume of war crimes/terrorism or deaths and destruction caused.

Both the Taliban and Al Qaeda were created, trained, supplied with weapons and funded by the USA.

Would you like to see pictures of the Taliban in Texas in the late 1990s being wined and dined by the USA?

[Je suis Omar]

What of it? Legal or illegal is just politics. Why do the Americans have to get legal permission...and from whom? Their left wing counterparts, the UN? Sorry, when the Taliban, Hamas, Hesbollah, ISIS, Al Queida etc. don't need rules, why should the americans?

Actually, the Americans have been doing/did what comes naturally to them, lying. Lies to invade Iraq, lies to invade Afghanistan, lies to make people think that the UN had given them the authority to invade when nothing is further from the truth.

Lies about just who are the greatest terrorist group on the planet. The historical record is very clear on this. The USA has been terrorizing Cuba for over a century, the Korean people for over sixty years, the Vietnamese people was for almost fifty years, every South & Central American country, off and on, sometimes multiple times, for well over a century.

The Cambodians, the Laotians, the Angolans, the Somalis, the Irainians, the [_____], ... .

And this USA terrorism has been vicious, brutal, every bit the equal of all the usual suspects/boogeymen the USA invents to whip the sheeple into a neat little herd.

Edited May 8, 2015 by Je suis Omar

[Hal 9000]

Actually, the Americans have been doing/did what comes naturally to them, lying. Lies to invade Iraq, lies to invade Afghanistan, lies to make people think that the UN had given them the authority to invade when nothing is further from the truth.

Lies about just who are the greatest terrorist group on the planet. The historical record is very clear on this. The USA has been terrorizing Cuba for over a century, the Korean people for over sixty years, the Vietnamese people was for almost fifty years, every South & Central American country, off and on, sometimes multiple times, for well over a century.

The Cambodians, the Laotians, the Angolans, the Somalis, the Irainians, the [_____], ... .

And this USA terrorism has been vicious, brutal, every bit the equal of all the usual suspects/boogeymen the USA invents to whip the sheeple into a neat little herd.

I don't think the USA has invented ISIS or any of the other terrorist groups. The whole idea that "without the americans intervening, the middle east would leave us alone and be a happy little utopia" is pure stupidity. Personally, I think maybe the world should leave the mid east alone and let them eat each other alive like rats in a bucket - but that's just me.

Regardless of who is the worst terrorist, I still choose to side with the americans.

[On Guard for Thee]

I don't think the USA has invented ISIS or any of the other terrorist groups. The whole idea that "without the americans intervening, the middle east would leave us alone and be a happy little utopia" is pure stupidity. Personally, I think maybe the world should leave the mid east alone and let them eat each other alive like rats in a bucket - but that's just me.

Regardless of who is the worst terrorist, I still choose to side with the americans.

There is a pretty solid argument as to how the US actions in Iraq has a lot to do with the creation of ISIS. After they got in there they kicked out all of Sadams people who were Sunni, and allowed the to be replaced by Shia, who had no experience running the country, or a military. This created a huge imbalance, pissed a lot of Sunis off, and guess what ISIS consists of...

[cybercoma]

It's not genetics. It's social, environmental and natural.

Terrorism is natural?