jacee Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) /toronto_doctor_urges_ottawa_to_admit_injured_gaza_kids_for_treatment Toronto physician Izzeldin Abuelaish, who is proposing to bring severely injured children from war-torn Gaza to Canada for medical treatment, is urging the federal government to support the idea. ... He says Gazas health-care system is severely damaged and overwhelmed by the number of injured civilians, including thousands of children. ... He says Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird hasnt replied to his requests for a meeting to talk about the matter. Ontario Health Minister Eric Hoskins, a doctor who has worked in war zones, says the province is willing to treat injured children from Gaza and Israel. Edited August 11, 2014 by jacee Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 Why would injured Gazans need to travel as far as Canada when clearly there are several rich Arab League and other nations much closer and more than capable to treat such patients ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) Why would injured Gazans need to travel as far as Canada when clearly there are several rich Arab League and other nations much closer and more than capable to treat such patients ? Because you hate injured Gazan children. That's why! Edited August 11, 2014 by Boges Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 Because you hate injured Gazan children. That's why! Love 'em or hate 'em, it's just a bad economic idea. They'd be better off sending help than bringing people back. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Boges Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 I just hope they charge these kids for parking like everyone else in Ontario gets charged for. Quote
jbg Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 Why would injured Gazans need to travel as far as Canada when clearly there are several rich Arab League and other nations much closer and more than capable to treat such patients ? And Israel treats quite a few. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Bob Macadoo Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 Love 'em or hate 'em, it's just a bad economic idea. They'd be better off sending help than bringing people back. We'd best start care package dropping those MRI machines then. We're not talking tonsillectomies here. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 We'd best start care package dropping those MRI machines then. We're not talking tonsillectomies here. Well, if they all need MRI's, it's gonna cost much more than I thought. Yikes! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Bob Macadoo Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 Well, if they all need MRI's, it's gonna cost much more than I thought. Yikes! What did you think they were coming here for; band-aids and popsicles? Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 What did you think they were coming here for; band-aids and popsicles? Tell Hamas to stop firing rockets, people will stop dying and the international community would be sure to go to Gaza and help those children. Simple! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 What did you think they were coming here for; band-aids and popsicles? Once the Gazans see how long the wait times are for an MRI, they will go back home ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jacee Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Tell Hamas to stop firing rockets, people will stop dying and the international community would be sure to go to Gaza and help those children. Simple! Tell Israel to lift the blockade so the children of Gaza can thrive. . Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Tell Israel to lift the blockade so the children of Gaza can thrive. . The blockades were put in place specifically because of Hamas. OK, tell the Palestinians to remove Hamas - then some negotiations can happen. You see, everything that happens is because of Hamas. Israel will not and should not have to open borders to a group of terrorists. Bomb clad terrorists would be running at that border like trailer park people at a blue light special. P.S - Why don't you preach to Egypt about opening their borders? - Oh yeah, because they've found 1200 tunnels and don't trust Hamas any more than Israel. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Bob Macadoo Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Nice pivot when you are shown your ignorance. I think there's a political backroom waiting for you. Quote
Bonam Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Tell Israel to lift the blockade so the children of Gaza can thrive. . Yes, I can just imagine all the thriving they would be doing under Hamas. Quote
jbg Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 P.S - Why don't you preach to Egypt about opening their borders? - Oh yeah, because they've found 1200 tunnels and don't trust Hamas any more than Israel. Not that the tunnel diggers came out so well. They did not, however, die at the hands of Israelis; Hamas executed their own tunnel diggers (link, excerpts below): Hamas said to have executed dozens of tunnel diggers Hamas executed dozens of diggers responsible for its extensive tunnel system in past weeks, fearing the workers would reveal the site locations to Israel, a report on the Mako website’s army blog said. *************************** Sources in Gaza told the website that Hamas took a series of precautions to prevent information from reaching Israel. The terror organization would reportedly blindfold the excavators en route to the sites and back, to prevent them from recognizing the locations. The tunnels were strictly supervised by Hamas members, and civilians were kept far from the sites. ************************************** After the tunnels were completed, dozens were reportedly executed to prevent intelligence leaks to Israel. *********************************** Read more: Hamas said to have executed dozens of tunnel diggers | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-said-to-have-executed-dozens-of-tunnel-diggers/#ixzz3A96VxaR5 These "people" are beneath contempt. The ones who organize tunnel digs of this kind and then butcher the workers are indeed "rats on four legs." Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Hal 9000 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Tell Israel to lift the blockade so the children of Gaza can thrive. . I know you're not a big fan of answering questions but....If you were Netanyahu, would you trust Hamas? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Rue Posted August 12, 2014 Author Report Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) In Jacee's world Israel lifts an embargo so that Hamas can bring in more weapons to attack Israel with. Alice in Wonderland. Edited August 12, 2014 by Rue Quote
Argus Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Tell Israel to lift the blockade so the children of Gaza can thrive. . Like the children of Yemen thrive? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
jacee Posted August 13, 2014 Report Posted August 13, 2014 The blockades were put in place specifically because of Hamas.Not really.The blockade is what's left of the Israeli occupation of Gaza. Hamas evolved to fight the occupation. OK, tell the Palestinians to remove Hamas - then some negotiations can happen. You see, everything that happens is because of Hamas. Israel will not and should not have to open borders to a group of terrorists. Bomb clad terrorists would be running at that border like trailer park people at a blue light special. P.S - Why don't you preach to Egypt about opening their borders? - Oh yeah, because they've found 1200 tunnels and don't trust Hamas any more than Israel. You have a very naive understanding of the situation. But keep on learning. . Quote
jacee Posted August 13, 2014 Report Posted August 13, 2014 In Jacee's world Israel lifts an embargo so that Hamas can bring in more weapons to attack Israel with. Alice in Wonderland. And in your vision Rue? Do millions of Arabs simply disappear from the Gaza and West Bank refugee camps so 'Eretz Israel' becomes reality? Are they exterminated? Or are they simply crowded more and more, oppressed and starved out? What is your vision Rue? . . Quote
Rue Posted August 13, 2014 Author Report Posted August 13, 2014 You have a very naive understanding of the situation. . Yes this coming from an expert on Hamas and Gaza. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuN2oGdnwHI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2hZ6SlSqq0 Quote
Rue Posted August 13, 2014 Author Report Posted August 13, 2014 And in your vision Rue? Do millions of Arabs simply disappear from the Gaza and West Bank refugee camps so 'Eretz Israel' becomes reality? Are they exterminated? Or are they simply crowded more and more, oppressed and starved out? What is your vision Rue? . . My vision? I have no visions. I have stated numerous times on this forum what my position is. It remains as I stated and you have read in the past. It is a hope that Palestinians can find a second state and live peacefully side by side Israel and Joddan. It is a hope that Palestinians shed themselves of Muslim extremists who hate Jews and Hordanians and condone terrorists. It is a hope Palestinians accept that a Jewish state is a reality, a Jordanian state is a reality and that Palestinians can achieve a stable, safe country living peacefully in an economuic free trade market with Israel and Jordan and an ability to expedite travel through each state and access to each other's airports and ports. It would require disarming of terrorists, recognizing a Jewish state and a comprehensive withdrawal of Jewish settlers from many areas on the West Bank that now exist. That is not possible at this time. Israel can not return to 67 borders as long as terrorists devoted to destroying it exist. I believe that the dream of taking back Israel imposed on Palestinians by Hamas and the PA enslaves them and keeps them down. I hope one day they can move past where they are at. Quote
marcus Posted August 13, 2014 Report Posted August 13, 2014 Yes, I can just imagine all the thriving they would be doing under Hamas. Tell us more about what can and cannot happen, so we can make decisions based on your ability to see into the future. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
marcus Posted August 13, 2014 Report Posted August 13, 2014 Israelis receive massive amount of money and military aid from the US, turn around and make their own even more sophisticated weapons, try them on living, breathing Palestinians to see how effectively they can kill men, women, and children, destroy homes, hospitals, schools, and mosques, then go off to the global arms market to sell their most recent weapons to the best (including many Arab) buyers, as they dispatch Elie Wiesel to buy ads in newspapers in US and Europe to tell the world how Palestinians are hiding behind their own children and are child killers--while Obama and Hillary Clinton say Israel has every right to defend itself and the US Congress sends even more money and ammunition to "the only democracy in the Middle East," as BBC cites Israeli army spokesman that not that many people have been killed in Gaza anyway, while the Guardian publishes passionate articles warning that those who are protesting in Europe against any of these are antisemites--as the Israeli arms manufacturers go back to their bunkers to make even more sophisticated weapons to try them on Palestinians in about a couple of years from now, so that Sam Harris the American philosopher and chief executive of "Project Reason" can write another learned essay from his moral philosophical vantage point arguing "Why he cannot oppose Israel!"--it all kind of makes perfect sense, doesn't it? Link How Israel’s arms manufacturers won the Gaza war Iron Dome may have been the star performer during Operation Protective Edge, but the big international sellers may be the Tamuz missile and the Windbreaker system. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
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