bleeding heart Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 ...including the dead Iraqi child following him around in his dreams. http://www.theonion.com/video/george-w-bush-debuts-new-paintings-of-dogs-friends,35799/ Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
kimmy Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 That was hilarious. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 Cool...is there a painting of Prime Minister Paul Martin begging for oil services contracts in Iraq...after the invasion ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 They don't seem very good to me, but still better than Voice of Fire. Have we made any offers? Quote
bleeding heart Posted April 17, 2014 Author Report Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) Well, BC_2004,, doubtless a lot of people could be satirized for their support of the war--whether pre-or post-invasion. One could do interesting artistic things with all these figures, malleable and distorted due to lack of spines..... Edited April 17, 2014 by bleeding heart Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
waldo Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 Cool...is there a painting of Prime Minister Paul Martin begging for oil services contracts in Iraq...after the invasion ? pardon! Could you repeat that? No, but I do remember PM Martin begging Bush for contracts in Iraq. Then Canada begged Bush for access to bidding on Iraq's oil services contracts and other rebuilding projects. PM Martin begged Bush for access to Iraqi oil service contracts after the invasion dirty work was over. PM Martin pleads Canada's case for Iraq with President Bush, who tolerates his continued begging: True....President Reagan supported him by bombing his residence in 1986, while PM Martin supported him by begging for Canadian oil services contracts in a tent. The Canadian contractors had to run for their lives once the romance fizzled. Begging Bush for contracts afterwards was just icing on the grovel cake. Chretien and Martin still begged for oil services contracts after the invasion was over. Yes...once all that nasty "invading" was over. Bush had mercy for France, Germany, and Canada to bid on Iraq re-construction contracts. Never let Canadian "principles" stand in the way of making money. ...then Bush had a date with Paul Martin....PMPM begged pretty please for Canada to get some contracts in Iraq! Correct...it is much worse, as the same Canadian PM got down on his knees and begged George Bush for access to oil services contracts in post-invasion Iraq. Of course, soon after all the shooting was settling down, Canada wanted a piece of the action in Iraq, from Paul Martin begging Bush for oil service contracts to web sites like this: But Paul Martin had tea in his tent and begged for Canadian oil services contracts. Instead PM Martin begged at Bush's feet for oil services contracts in Iraq after the invadin' was done. Afghanistan was Chretien's joint, remember? As for Iraq, PM Martin begged President Bush for a piece of the oil services contracts once all the big shootin' was done. Well, there was Paul Martin begging George Bush for access to oil services contracts in Iraq...after the invasion! After PM Paul Martin begged President Bush for a piece of the Iraq action, it was off to Libya for some coffee with Ghadaffi! This after Martin begged George Bush to let Canada bid on oil services contracts in Iraq after the invasion was done, of course. This is the same guy who begged George Bush for access to lucrative Iraq contracts AFTER all the coalition of the willing invadin' was done. Of course, once the invasion was over, PM Martin got on his knees and begged Bush for access to Iraqi oil services contracts. PM Martin begged Bush for access to Iraqi oil services contracts...after the invasion was over. Not only did it do so, it laughed in Canada's face the whole way. Then PM Martin begged Bush for sweet oil services contracts. Too funny! PM Martin begged Bush for and received a piece of the action for post invasion services contracts. Canada will always be sitting on the fence when it comes to the invasion of Iraq, from the half baked compromise with Mexico that would have guaranteed invasion anyway, to the begging by PM Martin for access to post invasion service contracts for "credit" earned. PM Martin begged for access to services contracts Indeed, more attention was spent by nations (like Canada) in getting lucrative post invasion service contracts and a piece of the huge US spending pie. PM Martin begged President Bush not to be excluded like the French and Germans. LOL! Martin came begging later for a piece of the Iraq oil services contracts. PM Martin begged for a piece of the action in the way of oil services contracts after the invasion! PM Martin begged for a piece of the post war action in Iraq. Lot's of money to be made playing dominoes, just like in 'Nam. Even as coalition forces did the dying, PM Martin begged for a piece of the action. Bush tossed him a bone.... Quote
Shady Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 pardon! Could you repeat that? Does that means the answers a yes? Quote
bleeding heart Posted April 17, 2014 Author Report Posted April 17, 2014 So...I take it the "argument"--apparently at bottom an objection to a piece of satire from The Onion--hinges around the fact that, yes, Bush is a dirty little criminal...but so is Paul Martin! Fine. If that helps you, then sure, Martin is doubtless a degenerate...as well as the murderous little aristocrat who is the subject of the OP. So we're all in agreement! Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
waldo Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 oh... that was satire?paint by number? No... paint by Google... paint by Wiki! has he captured the soul? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 Cool...is there a painting of Prime Minister Paul Martin begging for oil services contracts in Iraq...after the invasion ? You do realize that after the invasion, Paul Martin had been out of the PM office for years? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) You do realize that after the invasion, Paul Martin had been out of the PM office for years? I don't believe that....the "invasion" was in 2003. President Bush painted a picture. Edited April 17, 2014 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 I don't believe that....the "invasion" was in 2003. President Bush painted a picture. The invasion ended in '11, Martin left office in '06 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 The invasion ended in '11, Martin left office in '06 But not before he begged Bush for access to Iraqi contracts. Bush felt sorry for him. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 The invasion ended in '11, Martin left office in '06 Nope. The invasion actually ended in 3 weeks. Quote
OftenWrong Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 I think Bush's paintings are pretty good. I used to dislike him but that has changed over time. This thread is based on a falsehood, there are no dead children in his paintings. There's no reason to post junk like this, other than to incite a useless argument and provoke one person. Talk about trolling? Here it is. Quote
Shady Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 I think Bush's paintings are pretty good. I used to dislike him but that has changed over time. This thread is based on a falsehood, there are no dead children in his paintings. There's no reason to post junk like this, other than to incite a useless argument and provoke one person. Talk about trolling? Here it is. Very good point. This thread is trolling 101. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 18, 2014 Report Posted April 18, 2014 Nope. The invasion actually ended in 3 weeks. That's funny, and trolling 101 as you say. Apparently noone bothered to tell the US military though. Quote
bleeding heart Posted April 18, 2014 Author Report Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) Obviously and unambiguously satire....a joke thread, with a video posted from the popular and very well known satirical organization called "The Onion"....is trolling? Look, fellas, I'm trying very hard, and in a very gentlemanly fashion, to continue to give you the benefit of the doubt. Why undermine such a thing as that? So let me educate you a little bit: if this thread is trolling, then every political joke made on this site, by anyone and for any reason, and without exception, is "trolling." By definition. So...that is your stance? Really? Edited April 18, 2014 by bleeding heart Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
GostHacked Posted April 18, 2014 Report Posted April 18, 2014 Obviously and unambiguously satire....a joke thread, with a video posted from the popular and very well known satirical organization called "The Onion"....is trolling? Because of that BH, this thread became a whole lot more funny. Maybe reading comprehension is dead, or no one bothered to click your link. At least we have some critical thinkers on this board. Quote
bleeding heart Posted April 18, 2014 Author Report Posted April 18, 2014 Yeah...I mean, being lectured that "There are no children in his paintings" probably speaks for itself. I'm just surprised that all political humour--even when it appears in "Arts and Culture"--is "trolling." My bad. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
kimmy Posted April 18, 2014 Report Posted April 18, 2014 It's a hilarious video, and I'm glad BH posted it. It's also highly amusing that some members here are having a tantrum over a joke made about a guy who's been out of office for 5 years. For what it's worth, since leaving office G.W. Bush has been actively involved in humanitarian work in Africa. He has also refused to participate in political discussions out of a sense of propriety. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
iolo Posted April 18, 2014 Report Posted April 18, 2014 Don't knock the paintings. If he'd stuck with that he might not have become a war criminal. Bliar, on the other hand, was useless from the start, as he still is: he can't do anything but lie. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 18, 2014 Report Posted April 18, 2014 ...For what it's worth, since leaving office G.W. Bush has been actively involved in humanitarian work in Africa. He has also refused to participate in political discussions out of a sense of propriety. President Bush was actively involved with humanitarian aid for Africa while in office as well: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/04/george-w-bushs-legacy-on-africa-wins-praise-even-from-foes/ Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted April 18, 2014 Report Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) He has also refused to participate in political discussions out of a sense of propriety. -k It's just a shame this sense in particular couldn't have come to him sooner in life. I think the underlying premise of this satirical piece from the Onion - wondering how Bush sleeps at night is certainly a valid question in many minds. If the horror of what he helped commit does ever come to him I hope a sense of impropriety comes with it and he finds it within himself to caution other people of power to think thrice before using their power the way he did. He'll probably run the risk of discovering that horror through insights that come to him via his humanitarian work. I'm betting he's probably on really thin mental ice already. Edited April 18, 2014 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 18, 2014 Report Posted April 18, 2014 No, I think President Bush will be just fine because of the personal conviction that drove his decisions in the first place. Bush is strong in his faith and the religious foundation that provides relief and forgiveness for any mistakes made, some of which he will readily admit too. What he won't ever apologize for is making those decisions as a duty of his elected office. Projecting another value system on another individual does not mean they will fall to pieces "mentally". Bush has also received millions of counter messages demonstrating support for his decisions. It's not a one-sided affair. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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