bush_cheney2004 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 It's not a joke - I don't feel that any leader, no matter their political leaning, should be denigrated. It's not good for positive discussion. Then why have you repeatedly referred to such leaders as "idiot" (McGuinty, Obama, Trump, etc.) ? Why have the rules changed for Justin Trudeau ? Economics trumps Virtue.
Michael Hardner Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 Here is a "Shrub" example from 2009: http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/13402-the-harperobama-meeting/#entry390375 Finding examples where we missed something doesn't shed any light onto the situation. This is a pretty straightforward question, and - again - with a new PM in office, and the US presidential election kicked off now, it's hard to see why there's any interest at all in this topic. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Smallc Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 Then why have you repeatedly referred to such leaders as "idiot" (McGuinty, Obama, Trump, etc.) ? Perhaps I grew up (though I recall being a fan of McGuinty)? Oh, and Trump is. If he becomes president, or even the nominee, I'll give him the respect he deserves.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 Finding examples where we missed something doesn't shed any light onto the situation. This is a pretty straightforward question, and - again - with a new PM in office, and the US presidential election kicked off now, it's hard to see why there's any interest at all in this topic. Because clearly there has been a reset on what is/is not permitted. It is unclear what the election process in a foreign country has to do with this matter on a "Canadian" forum. Economics trumps Virtue.
Michael Hardner Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 No reset. Unreported posts from 6 years ago aren't proof of anything. If you see something that runs afoul of the rules report it. I know I corrected many posts where Harper was misspelled in my time here. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 No reset. Unreported posts from 6 years ago aren't proof of anything. If you see something that runs afoul of the rules report it. I know I corrected many posts where Harper was misspelled in my time here. No.....I prefer to report somethings that clearly demonstrates political bias with forum "rules". Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 No.....I prefer to report somethings that clearly demonstrates political bias with forum "rules". Witch hunt?
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) So Harper and Bush got plenty of personal insults that were "missed".....but Trudeau gets very alert personal protection. Got it. Edited February 2, 2016 by bush_cheney2004 Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 The moderators aren't even protecting him from this so what you're going on about is beyond me.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 The moderators aren't even protecting him from this so what you're going on about is beyond me. Let's just see how it plays out during Trudeau's tenure.....methinks the "miss" rate will go down. Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 Let's just see how it plays out during Trudeau's tenure.....methinks the "miss" rate will go down. I think that it's difficult to draw conclusions like that. We have now a more active moderator in MH. I think he does a good job even if I don't always agree with him. CA is an anarchist, so I don't see him defending Trudeau. Greg is lost in time and space somewhere. Kimmy is far from a Liberal, though she wasn't a Harper supporter (and yes, I know she's only a facilitator, but whatever). My point is that circumstances have changed. You can't use historical forum policing as a judge.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 ...My point is that circumstances have changed. You can't use historical forum policing as a judge. I don't care what the excuses are....if the "policing" is biased, it will be obvious. Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 The moderators aren't even protecting him from this so what you're going on about is beyond me. I reckon it's beyond most of us. Although it's not unexpected.
Smallc Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 I don't care what the excuses are....if the "policing" is biased, it will be obvious. I think your perception of bias will depend completely on your particular bias. You aren't some kind of impartial judge, no matter what your self perception may be.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 I think your perception of bias will depend completely on your particular bias. You aren't some kind of impartial judge, no matter what your self perception may be. No perception required...just this forum engine's search feature. Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 I know I corrected many posts where Harper was misspelled in my time here. I'm surprised no one has coined the name Hooper given how hooped the Cons were in the end...so to speak. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Smallc Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 No perception required...just this forum engine's search feature. If you want to ignore context that's fine. I'm not sure what exactly it's going to gain you, though. Like I said, this feels a lot more like a witch hunt aimed at MH than anything.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 If you want to ignore context that's fine. I'm not sure what exactly it's going to gain you, though. Like I said, this feels a lot more like a witch hunt aimed at MH than anything. Your feelings are of no concern to me....another member asked a direct question about this disparity and doublespeak was the answer. Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 Your feelings are of no concern to me. And your feelings obviously aren't of concern to the moderators (or most others, for that matter) - yet here we are.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 And your feelings obviously aren't of concern to the moderators (or most others, for that matter) - yet here we are. We shall see....the game has just begun. Economics trumps Virtue.
Hal 9000 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 So, Now that we Justin Trudeau as PM, the moderating will be tighter than when Harper was in power? What a strange coincidence! The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
eyeball Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 So, Now that we Justin Trudeau as PM, the moderating will be tighter than when Harper was in power? What a strange coincidence! Yeah what gives? Is there some new time-to-be-nice PC-like movement I'm unaware of? Notice how even Parliament is trying to clean up it's act these days. I think it's pretty hilarious after 15 years of being likened to a bunch of mass murdering commies for my views I stand to be banned the next time I refer to some bigot as a racist. Bait your hooks I guess. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
waldo Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 No reset. Unreported posts from 6 years ago aren't proof of anything. If you see something that runs afoul of the rules report it. I know I corrected many posts where Harper was misspelled in my time here. apparently, given the flurry of subsequent posts since yours, someone is really, really miffed that my '6-year old' transgression can still be found using MLW search capabilities. I did mention I've received warnings in the past about improper name use for certain politicians - clearly this did not quell the fueled fires of indignation. in case you didn't see my post, I also thought it pertinent to introduce a reference to MLW rules to ensure more complete understanding among MLW members as to what, by rule definition, is acceptable practice in how, for example, politicians are named. Your reply to that post is most anticipated: .
dialamah Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 Trudeau "Jr" is more often intended as an insult than not, often combined with sneering references to his public persona, lack of experience, "privileged" background. If "good faith" usage were accurate then the Jr would only be added when there was clear need to differentiate between Pierre and Justin. Since Pierre is dead, that need would be minimal. The moderating team may have decided not to penalize usage, fine by me, but to claim "good faith" usage seems disingenuous to me.
cybercoma Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 The moderators aren't even protecting him from this so what you're going on about is beyond me.lol no kidding, eh? This whole thing started because the mods said it was fair play to refer to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau as "Junior," despite he not being a junior at all.
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