Argus Posted September 6, 2016 Author Report Posted September 6, 2016 Do you want moderators to stop thread drift? Sometimes thread drift can be damned annoying. I just think there are other ways of dealing with it than simply locking the thread. I wrote to you a short while back because of thread drift on a topic I'd started and asked you to split off the drift part and start a new topic, which you did. Problem solved. In the particular topic which was recently canned there weren't even any warnings to get back on topic. No - I've already said as much multiple times. It's damaging to conversation. That's too blanket a statement. Sometimes thread drift is stupid, done by just a couple of people, and makes it hard to continue a conversation. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Bryan Posted September 6, 2016 Report Posted September 6, 2016 Sometimes thread drift is stupid, done by just a couple of people, and makes it hard to continue a conversation. If it's only a couple of people, why can't you ignore them and just reply to the people you do want to talk to?
Smallc Posted September 6, 2016 Report Posted September 6, 2016 That's too blanket a statement. Sometimes thread drift is stupid, done by just a couple of people, and makes it hard to continue a conversation. Sometimes - usually not.
Argus Posted September 6, 2016 Author Report Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) If it's only a couple of people, why can't you ignore them and just reply to the people you do want to talk to? Because if it's the wrong two people it can produce pages and pages of crap entirely unrelated to the topic. Edited September 6, 2016 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
cybercoma Posted September 6, 2016 Report Posted September 6, 2016 Do you want moderators to stop thread drift? Go back and re-read what he said. He gave you a solution to address thread drift, a solution that improves discussion instead of hindering it.
Smallc Posted September 6, 2016 Report Posted September 6, 2016 Go back and re-read what he said. He gave you a solution to address thread drift, a solution that improves discussion instead of hindering it. And it works - they actually split off the discussion and all relevant posts, putting context of where the discussion originally started in the title.
Altai Posted September 6, 2016 Report Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) What you're doing is much more damage to interesting and detailed discussions than even the worst thread drift. Thread topics are a starting point. Nobody in a real conversation stays completely on topic. One idea triggers another and off it goes. No rational person stops that in mid-track and says "wait no, that's not what we were talking about". A person who would do that is someone you wouldn't invite out next time. Real life discussions goes out of the topic many times because of people cant control themselves during a discussion and you cant stop them doing so if you are not planning to bondage their mouths. Its different in forums. Everthing goes in much more controlled manner. You can think twice before you write something in a topic or moderators can interfere with a derailing in a discussion. Edited September 6, 2016 by Altai "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Argus Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Posted November 9, 2016 When you are suspended by the new software should your ability to PM people, including the moderators, be removed also? "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Charles Anthony Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 20 hours ago, Argus said: When you are suspended by the new software should your ability to PM people, including the moderators, be removed also? No. We have to make sure that is fixed. We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
jbg Posted November 13, 2016 Report Posted November 13, 2016 How do you contact the moderators? That seems to be disabled. Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
?Impact Posted November 13, 2016 Report Posted November 13, 2016 9 hours ago, jbg said: How do you contact the moderators? That seems to be disabled. Send them a message, the little envelope icon at the top of the screen. For those who don't know who the moderators are, go under browse --> staff and it will list them including a shortcut to the message.
jbg Posted November 13, 2016 Report Posted November 13, 2016 Just now, ?Impact said: Send them a message, the little envelope icon at the top of the screen. For those who don't know who the moderators are, go under browse --> staff and it will list them including a shortcut to the message. That function isn't working for all of the moderators. Thanks though. Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Forum Admin Greg Posted November 14, 2016 Forum Admin Report Posted November 14, 2016 22 hours ago, jbg said: That function isn't working for all of the moderators. That's news to me... Have any issues, problems using the forum? Post a message in the Support and Questions section of the forums.
cybercoma Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 On 11/14/2016 at 6:10 PM, Greg said: That's news to me... jbg probably means that one of their inboxes was full. That's happened on occasion. You can't send them a message when that happens.
GostHacked Posted November 16, 2016 Report Posted November 16, 2016 On 9/5/2016 at 9:42 PM, Bryan said: If it's only a couple of people, why can't you ignore them and just reply to the people you do want to talk to? To anyone who reads the site and does not post are exposed to the trolling, it's probably why we don't get many new people joining and chatting. I see 89,000 members, 1400 online and about 20 people posting regularly. WTF are with those numbers?
jbg Posted November 29, 2016 Report Posted November 29, 2016 On 11/15/2016 at 9:36 PM, GostHacked said: To anyone who reads the site and does not post are exposed to the trolling, it's probably why we don't get many new people joining and chatting. I see 89,000 members, 1400 online and about 20 people posting regularly. WTF are with those numbers? I have loved this site over the years but have reduced my posting, in view of the number of warnings and suspensions I get that I just don't understand. I appreciate that Greg, Charles and Michael are volunteers so I don't want to get into a mudfest. But sometimes people don't see eye to eye. Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BC_chick Posted November 30, 2016 Report Posted November 30, 2016 I posted something this morning in the Flag Burning thread to Altai, but it disappeared. Out of curiosity, was it deleted or did I do something wrong on my phone? What I said was benign so I'm assuming it was a technical glitch but with this forum you never know... It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
poochy Posted November 30, 2016 Report Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) Honestly, up yours with the random comment deletion, you're terrible moderators. Edited November 30, 2016 by poochy
BC_chick Posted November 30, 2016 Report Posted November 30, 2016 I know they delete a lot, but let's wait for a response. I was on my phone so it totally could've been a glitch. It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Argus Posted November 30, 2016 Author Report Posted November 30, 2016 1 minute ago, poochy said: Honestly, up yours with the random comment deletion, you're terrible moderators. Better than random suspensions... "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted November 30, 2016 Author Report Posted November 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, BC_chick said: I posted something this morning in the Flag Burning thread to Altai, but it disappeared. Out of curiosity, was it deleted or did I do something wrong on my phone? Did you perform a micro-aggression on a snowflake? For shame! "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
BC_chick Posted November 30, 2016 Report Posted November 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Argus said: Did you perform a micro-aggression on a snowflake? For shame! Micro-aggression against Turkey, but not Altai. She was so proud of Turkey for killing people for committing flag crimes I was left scratching my head why on earth EU would not allow the country membership. Maybe it was deemed off-topic, but it was my way of saying that a country that regards flag burning as a crime doesn't get to sit at the table with the grownups. Still hoping I just clicked something incorrectly. It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Charles Anthony Posted November 30, 2016 Report Posted November 30, 2016 12 minutes ago, BC_chick said: What I said was benign ... Your post was grossly off-topic and could only derail the thread. Normally, we will send a Personal Message informing you of a post being taken down and we send it back to you to edit. In this case, the derail was more than obvious. We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
BC_chick Posted November 30, 2016 Report Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) It was very much on-topic. A country that considers flag-burning a crime does not belong with the rest of civilized countries. I'm with poochy, you were way too trigger happy with that one. The person bringing Turkey into the conversation isn't derailing but the person who points out that the country that considers flag burning a crime is not fit to sit at the table with the grownups is derailing. SMH. Edited November 30, 2016 by BC_chick It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Charles Anthony Posted November 30, 2016 Report Posted November 30, 2016 11 minutes ago, BC_chick said: It was very much on-topic. We disagree. Regardless, deliver your message WITHOUT a personal jab next time. When a personal jab is at the forefront of your post, moderator tolerance drops and the troll-o-meter starts to ring. We let a lot of nonsense fly. All we want is for folks to be courteous with eachother and to avoid personal attacks. We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
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