jbg Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Should a Mayor smoke crack? (link to story). As an American I know little or nothing about Canadian policies or politics. Is it OK if a Mayor smokes crack? Or is worse if he roots on the Leafs futilely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Worse to root on the Leafs, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 As an American I know little or nothing about Canadian policies or politics. Is it OK if a Mayor smokes crack? as a claimed American, in a vast assortment of past MLW posts, you've made many forceful statements/assertions concerning Canadian policies/politics. So... your false statement is simply a convenient lead in for you. In any case, as a Canadian, I would point you south for a refresher and an answer to your question: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 The phrase "crack cocaine" is sexy. How many posters to this forum have ever seen anyone use "crack cocaine"? The phrase "smoking weed" is not sexy. Such is modern western life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted November 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) as a claimed American, in a vast assortment of past MLW posts, you've made many forceful statements/assertions concerning Canadian policies/politics. So... your false statement is simply a convenient lead in for you. In any case, as a Canadian, I would point you south for a refresher and an answer to your question: Washington D.C. mayors have long had a charm of their own. Marion Barry sure had a big fail on snow removal in January 1982. And your snide remark aside, I am very much an American. I have lived within 40 kms. of New York City (the U.S.'s first capital) all my life, except my years of college and law school (1975-82). Edited November 2, 2013 by jbg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) And your snide remark aside, I am very much an American. I have lived within 40 kms. of New York City (the U.S.'s first capital) all my life, except my years of college and law school (1975-82). Yes, and a Democrat who considers Theresa Spence his personal hero. We already know it's a joke. But, in terms of the question, it would probably be okay if a mayor had smoked crack but admitted to it and sought treatment, didn't lie about it and try and ruin the careers of anyone who got in the way, didn't get people beat up in home invasions to retrieve the video of it, and, of course, people didn't get shot and stabbed in the course of that video retrieval. What a waste of thread space though. Edited November 2, 2013 by BubberMiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 But, in terms of the question, it would probably be okay if a mayor had smoked crack but admitted to it and sought treatment, didn't lie about it and try and ruin the careers of anyone who got in the way, You mean the Lance Armstrong syndrome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 If Ford does smoke crack, then he needs rehab and removed from office for that duration. If Ford DID smoke crack in the car, then what other bad decisions has he made during his tenure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Having used crack doesn't make him an addict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 For all we know crack helps sharpen his wits on occasion, the way meth does for fighter pilots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Having used crack doesn't make him an addict. Crack is easy to get addicted to. I bet it was not his first time, nor was it his last. But how he has carried himself in public on several occasions under the influence of alcohol or drugs tells me he has a problem. The signs are all there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Was the public calling Gordon Campbell an addict and calling for his resignation after he drove drunk in Hawaii? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) Was the public calling Gordon Campbell an addict and calling for his resignation after he drove drunk in Hawaii?Some claimed he was a drunk. Many were calling for his resignation. Edited November 2, 2013 by The_Squid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 In so many words. Campbell had his defenders too. The positioning was typically ideologically based as I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 In so many words. Campbell had his defenders too. The positioning was typically ideologically based as I recall. Yet he was re-elected after that, was he not? I'm curious because evidently Ford did not break the law - while Campbell most definitely did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Yet he was re-elected after that, was he not? I'm curious because evidently Ford did not break the law - while Campbell most definitely did. The anti-Ford establishment and media have been working overtime since the night he shocked them all by winning the election. They have never accepted his legitimacy and have been working ever since than to remove him from office, no matter what the cost. They're going into overdrive now because they're desperate to not allow him to appeal to voters to an up or down vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Oh yeah, I suspect the base would still have loved him even if he'd been caught growing pot. It seems that conservative bases are usually the basest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) Oh yeah, I suspect the base would still have loved him even if he'd been caught growing pot. It seems that conservative bases are usually the basest. Wasn't Gordon Campbell a Liberal? From BC? You're neck of the woods? Edited November 2, 2013 by American Woman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Yes that's right, and so is Campbell and his base despite all appearances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Ford's approval ratings are tracking upward, from 39% to 44% since this was disclosed. He could very well be re-elected with those numbers. Which would be hilarious because I don't live in Toronto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 What's ironic is that many of Fords critics are also part of the pro-dope smoking crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Yes that's right, and so is Campbell and his base despite all appearances. So it's not really a "conservative thing" then, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Ford's approval ratings are tracking upward, from 39% to 44% since this was disclosed. He could very well be re-elected with those numbers. Which would be hilarious because I don't live in Toronto. Probably because voters can distinguish between a politicians private life and the job they do in office. Much like Bill Clinton or Campbell in BC, or Mark Sandford in South Carolina etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 What isn't? The BC Liberal Party? It's definitely right-wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 What's ironic is that many of Fords critics are also part of the pro-dope smoking crowd. I was going to point that out. Hence my comment about the safe injection site in Toronto. Which, ironically, Ford doesn't support. At any rate, seems to me that depending on the circumstances, the reaction to using drugs varies greatly. I'm in no way defending Ford; as I've pointed out before, not living in Toronto, being an American, I have no horse in that race - but if he didn't break the law, while I'm critical of his lying and having thrown a lot of his staff under the bus, I'm wondering why there's so much criticism from the 'decriminalize drugs' ilk over his having used crack cocaine. Seems to me, from what I hear, this is one of those things that Canada wouldn't get all in a tizzy over while "religious America" is all hung up on drug use. Just trying to understand and get the full picture. As I pointed out. Campbell's drinking and driving is a criminal offense in Canada - yet he went on to be re-elected in spite of his 'terrible lack of judgement,' and I'm assuming that it was liberals who re-elected him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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