waldo Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 There midterm election isn't for another year, so polling is absurd. but, but, but..... it's polling in direct relation to the GOP going after Obamacare... I mean, that was the basis for the GOP U.S. government shutdown, right Shady? Them Americans... they likee that there Obamacare, right Shady? but like I said, there was simply a 4 month 'kick the can down the road' reprieve from the next wave of GOP idiocy. Or do you think they've learned anything from their fiasco as plunging popularity ratings? What say you Shady... what's in store in the next wave a scant few months from now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 The software issues will get sorted out. The partisan bullshit should be put aside and the plan allowed to succeed or fail on its own merits. Unfortunately, the "Obama Care" label has made that impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 The software issues will get sorted out. The partisan bullshit should be put aside and the plan allowed to succeed or fail on its own merits. Unfortunately, the "Obama Care" label has made that impossible. I think it is already 'too big to fail'. Maybe it will get a bail out down the road? But I think once it is in place, it will not go away until the next pres. But even that is a slim possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 The software issues will get sorted out. The partisan bullshit should be put aside and the plan allowed to succeed or fail on its own merits. Unfortunately, the "Obama Care" label has made that impossible. But the software and website are the easy parts. The difficult parts are the rest of the absurd law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Congress is pounding on the ACA contractors....starting with CGI Federal out of Montreal: The Canadian-owned company responsible for a major part of the troubled Obamacare website faced tough questions at a hearing on Capitol Hill today and promised to fix the ongoing problems as soon as possible but couldn’t say when the site would be running smoothly. “I have a team of people working around the clock,” Cheryl Campbell, senior vice-president of CGI Federal, testified at the Energy and Commerce Committee. “The system is improving day over day, we are continuing to work to make improvements.” ....Campbell said she doesn’t believe the website needs to be taken down and started again from scratch. She’s confident the problems will be fixed. She couldn’t say when exactly the website will be running perfectly but expects it to be working smoothly by Dec.15. That’s the deadline for when people have to sign up in order for the coverage plans they buy to begin Jan.1. http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/canadian-it-firm-promises-to-fix-obamacare-website-woes-1.2223517 Blame Canada !! Blame Canada !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 I guess we now know why Obama and the democrats scheduled the year AFTER the election for the implementation of the unaffordable care act! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 The american people also gave control of congress to GOP so it is not reasonable to construe Obama's win as a blanket endorsement for any of his policies. That's true. But let's not forget the essential ongoing element of public polling on health care. They want public health care just like every other nation in the industrial world has. Their main issue with the Affordable Care Att is it doesn't give that to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 That's true. But let's not forget the essential ongoing element of public polling on health care. They want public health care just like every other nation in the industrial world has. Their main issue with the Affordable Care Att is it doesn't give that to them. That's simply not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) I guess we now know why Obama and the democrats scheduled the year AFTER the election for the implementation of the unaffordable care act! Were you asleep and not aware it was on the table well before of the last election? Edited October 25, 2013 by On Guard for Thee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Anyways, looks like Obama's created a clusterfark of immense proportions! Obamacare contractor: Even I couldn’t log on to Healthcare.gov http://rare.us/story/obamacare-contractor-even-i-couldnt-log-onto-healthcare-gov/ Health insurance cancellation notices soar above Obamacare enrollment rates http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/24/health-insurance-cancellation-notices-soar-above-obamacare-enrollment-rates/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 That's simply not true. Yeah... its true. Public polling consistently showed majority support for a public option. A July survey by the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute found that 28% of Americans would like to purchase a public plan while 53% would prefer to have a private plan. It also stated that 69% would support its creation in the first place.[35]Survey USA estimated that the majority of Americans (77%) feel that it is either "Quite Important" or "Extremely Important" to "give people a choice of both a public plan administered by the federal government and a private plan for their health insurance" in August 2009.[36] A Rasmussen Reports poll taken on August 17–18 stated that 57% of Americans did not support the current health care bill being considered by Congress that did not include a public option,[37] a change from their findings in July 2009.[38] A NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, conducted August 15–17, found that 47% of Americans opposed the idea of a public option and 43% expressed support.[39] A Pew Research Center report published on October 8, 2009 stated that 55% of Americans favor a government health insurance plan to compete with private plans. The results were very similar to their polling from July, which found 52% support.[40] An October 2009 Washington Post/ABC poll showed 57% support,[41] a USA Today/Gallup survey described by a USA Today article on October 27 found that 50% of Americans supported a government plan proposal,[42] and a poll from November 10 and 11 by Angus Reid Public Opinion found that 52% of Americans supported a public plan.[43] On October 27, journalist Ray Suarez of The News Hour with Jim Lehrer noted that "public opinion researchers say the tide has been shifting over the last several weeks, and now is not spectacularly, but solidly in favor of a public option."[44] A large majority supported a public healthcare options, which is what Obama wanted and campaigned on. What they got was DoNothingCongressCare... A welfare bill for campaign donors of senators and congressmen with a mandate origionally dreamed up by folks like Richard Nixon and the Heritage Foundation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Anyways, looks like Obama's created a clusterfark of immense proportions! Obamacare contractor: Even I couldn’t log on to Healthcare.gov http://rare.us/story/obamacare-contractor-even-i-couldnt-log-onto-healthcare-gov/ Health insurance cancellation notices soar above Obamacare enrollment rates http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/24/health-insurance-cancellation-notices-soar-above-obamacare-enrollment-rates/ Kind of like the one he inherited from Bush? Now that was immense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Yeah... its true. A large majority supported a public healthcare options, which is what Obama wanted and campaigned on. What they got was DoNothingCongressCare... A welfare bill for campaign donors of senators and congressmen with a mandate origionally dreamed up by folks like Richard Nixon and the Heritage Foundation. Then why did Democrats pass it? It's odd that there's such so-called support for a "public option" but Republicans won a landslide victory in 2010. Makes me think that the polling is somewhat flawed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Even Democrats saw what was coming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Even Democrats saw what was coming... Wow, that was inspiring, something to do with a trainwreck. Doesn't really lend much to the discussion, not even good acting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 These days, "trainwreck" means plenty in Canada. I'm sure Obamacare critics in the U.S. can relate to the comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 The software issues will get sorted out. The partisan bullshit should be put aside and the plan allowed to succeed or fail on its own merits. Unfortunately, the "Obama Care" label has made that impossible. All they probably had to do to make it work is call it something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 These days, "trainwreck" means plenty in Canada. I'm sure Obamacare critics in the U.S. can relate to the comparison. Well the good news in Canada is that aftr the trainwreck, and please spare us any more of those anywhere, that there is not yet another thrainwreck trying to figure out which brand of private insurance card everyone has so as to direct them to the corrent facility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 All they probably had to do to make it work is call it something else. By labeling it Obamacare, the GOP has to make it fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 That's simply not true. Oh shady, SOS, stop making things up. Earlier in this thread you were shown that they do, overwhelmingly, but you didnt reply.....skate away shady at his finest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 ....let's not forget the essential ongoing element of public polling on health care. They want public health care just like every other nation in the industrial world has. ....Polls have shown that it's conditional; that support falls to under 50% if it would mean a limited choice of doctors or waiting lists for non-emergency treatments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Oh shady, SOS, stop making things up. Earlier in this thread you were shown that they do, overwhelmingly, but you didnt reply.....skate away shady at his finest Complete nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) Polls have shown that it's conditional; that support falls to under 50% if it would mean a limited choice of doctors or waiting lists for non-emergency treatments. True....Americans poll in the overwhelming majority for satisfaction with excellent, TIMELY health care in the U.S. How that health care is paid for is a different issue, and any impact on access and waiting to fund "universal, Canadian style health care" is not supported by a majority in the U.S., which already has working public pay options in Medicare, Medicaid, and other programs. Edited October 25, 2013 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Complete nonsense.LOL ! Thanks shady, your failure to read, your failure to see the truth is most fun. SOS non stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 But the software and website are the easy parts. The difficult parts are the rest of the absurd law. The back end to hold that much data is quite significant. It's no small task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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