tommg6 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Posted December 19, 2012 For criminals/people who commit homicide? Like in the United States? Discuss. Quote
tommg6 Posted December 19, 2012 Author Report Posted December 19, 2012 I know this will be a hot topic considering the recent events in Newtown, Conneticutt, USA. So lets discuss this. Quote
-TSS- Posted December 19, 2012 Report Posted December 19, 2012 I'm convinced that within 10 years it will be banned all across the USA as well. Quote
The_Squid Posted December 19, 2012 Report Posted December 19, 2012 I don't think it will be much of a hot topic. It's pretty much a settled issue... Quote
jacee Posted December 19, 2012 Report Posted December 19, 2012 For criminals/people who commit homicide? Like in the United States? Discuss. No. Quote
Moonbox Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 Nope. I don't seriously believe it acts any more as a deterrent than life in prison does. I also think they get it wrong enough that the scales of justice just don't balance out to make it valid. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 OK, but there really is no such thing as "life in prison" for perps convicted in Canada. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) I am not in favour of the death penalty. Too many people are found guilty at trial then cleared at a later date when technology improves for any country to have the death penalty as an available option. There's nothing wrong with the state killing the right person. It doesn't make us "as bad as they are". But killing the wrong person goes some way towards that. Edited December 20, 2012 by bcsapper Quote
eyeball Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 Discuss. For f^*ks sake... NO! Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
BC_chick Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 Negative. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Smallc Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 What purpose would it serve, really? Where is the justice in retribution? Quote
Sleipnir Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 For criminals/people who commit homicide? Like in the United States? Absolutely not. Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
The_Squid Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 OK, but there really is no such thing as "life in prison" for perps convicted in Canada. Lies. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 MYTH: a life sentence means you are in prison for the rest of your life During the partial ban on capital punishment throughout the 1960s, an average life sentence meant 7-10 years in prison. Now in Canada, a life sentence is 10-25 years in prison. Convictions that can result in a life sentence include first and second degree murder, manslaughter, treason, bank robbery and multiple escapes. =============================================================================================== Life must be very short in Canada ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
The_Squid Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 People here sometimes never get out regardless. Nice try though.... Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 People here sometimes never get out regardless. Nice try though.... But most of them do...despite victim family requests otherwise. "Rehabilitating" murderers is a Canadian favorite just to save money. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
The_Squid Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 But most of them do...despite victim family requests otherwise. "Rehabilitating" murderers is a Canadian favorite just to save money. For someone who lights his hair on fire whenever a Canadian has an opinion about America, you sure blab a lot of opinions about Canada..... Hypocrite. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 For someone who lights his hair on fire whenever a Canadian has an opinion about America, you sure blab a lot of opinions about Canada..... Hypocrite. Just returning the favor....hypocrite. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Merlin Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 Yes we should reserved for special circumstances. Bernardo and Picton come to mind. Quote
Moonbox Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 For someone who lights his hair on fire whenever a Canadian has an opinion about America, you sure blab a lot of opinions about Canada..... Hypocrite. Hahaha well said. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Canuckistani Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 OK, but there really is no such thing as "life in prison" for perps convicted in Canada. Tell that to Clifford Olson or Paul Bernardo, I'm sure they'll be very happy to hear it. Quote
Canuckistani Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 This shooter was severely mentally ill. Presumably even in the Bloodthirsty States of America he would have been found not guilty. And, for those who don't care about the state being a killer of the guilty, at least care about the people the state kills in error. Quote
Bonam Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 Nope. The justice system is not competent enough to avoid making mistakes in such cases, and death is irreversible. We should, however, have real life sentences: prison until death, no chance of parole or release (unless the original conviction is found to be erroneous), nor money wasted on useless attempts at rehabilitation. Life in solitary confinement should also be an option for the worst offenders... Quote
Keepitsimple Posted December 20, 2012 Report Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) The question should give a few options because there is strong support for Capital Punishment for heinous crimes and repeat murderers but much less for first time murderers. But no, we should not have capital punishment.....but for heinous crimes or repeat murderers, Life in prison should mean just that - Life. For all other crimes, the term "Life" should not be used...it should be replaced with the actual sentence range - "....sentenced to 10-25 years" or "25 to life". Don't try and fool Canadians into thinking someone is doing a "Life Sentence" when clearly, they are not. For first degree murder, the "faint hope" clause should be gone. The reason there is still strong support for Capital Punishment is that there is no "truth" in sentencing. These changes will fix that. Edited December 20, 2012 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
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