login Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) http://www.ctvnews.c...syria-1.1074357 Did this get brought up in Parliament at all? I should say that the potentials for an amphibious assault are quite high, but I'm not sure how this pertains to Russias Naval base in Syria.... NATO forces were training on mountain storming in Albania and there seems to be a taskforce deployed off Syria. Some what of the same as the Libya scenario.. there appears to be what 3000 troops of Anglo French capacities.. http://www.dailymail...o=feeds-newsxml seems rather small considering syria's military size. This while chemical weapons stores are reported by the Western Press as headed to Aleppo.. http://www.debka.com...s-toward-Aleppo It seems 10,000 NATO Troops are already assembled. http://hamsayeh.net/...-in-turkey.html infowars report the invasion is immenent. http://www.infowars....syria-imminent/ NATO Advisors (atleast the French) are already within Syria. The US is due on Wednesday to recognize a "rebel movement" as the official government of Syria. (France has already done so) If Iran's leadership holds to their statements, an attack on Syria would draw Iran to get involved, which would draw Israel into it, because Iran says it will fire its ballistic missiles at Tel Aviv if Nato attacks Syria. It seems highly likely an attack by Iran on Israel would be a red line for the US, which would likely bring the gulf into "open war" Which will probably increase the price of oil (at the very least), and I geuss gold too.. Anyone have thoughts on this? http://www.britishpa...y-your-gas-mask (gb = sarin) (no special protective clothing...)syrias supposed VX.. Edited December 11, 2012 by login Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 I'm sure when Harper decided to announce this, it will be on a Friday or in the Xmas holidays so the Tories won't have to discuss it with the opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 BTW, I heard a retired US General say he doesn't believe that Syria would used chemical weapons because HE knows that the US would be right there on top of him if he did. The media is sounding like Iraq all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 If NATO asks for assistance, the federal government is ready to deploy the Canadian Joint Incident Response Unit, which handles chemical, biological and radioactive attacks. Canada will also send a Disaster Assistance Response Team (DART) to provide clean water in Syria, as well as engineers and staff who can help set up a field hospital. This is going to war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 The conservatives are doing it so, yeah. Duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
login Posted December 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) This is going to war? It is the waterboying of war but it is war. http://www.cjiru-uii...a/index-eng.asp http://en.wikipedia....t_Response_Unit It is a sub-unit of the Joint Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Defence Company, which in turn forms part of the Canadian Special Operations Forces Command. The JNBCD Company is able to conduct a wider range of operations than the previous NBCRT including both the support of federal departments and supporting international operations for management of NBC emergencies. It maintains an initial response component on a very high readiness posture as part of the National Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear Response Team and can be deployed by road or by air. By garrisoning the JNBCD Company at 8 Wing Trenton, Ontario, it is able to benefit from on-site military airlift in time of crisis.The JNBCD Company is a truly “joint” unit with members coming from the army, navy and air force. It can conduct detection, sampling and identification of the full range of chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear hazards, and provide expert advice to incident commanders and senior officials. As a national resource, its employment is coordinated through the Government Operations Centre and authorized by the Minister of National Defence. source: http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/news-nouvelles/news-nouvelles-eng.asp?id=505 Edited December 11, 2012 by login Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 The conservatives are doing it so, yeah. Duh. Silly me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 It is the waterboying of war but it is war. http://www.cjiru-uii...a/index-eng.asp http://en.wikipedia....t_Response_Unit It is a sub-unit of the Joint Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Defence Company, which in turn forms part of the Canadian Special Operations Forces Command. So, what department would you expect it to be under, the Commons Cafeteria? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
login Posted December 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) So, what department would you expect it to be under, the Commons Cafeteria? Emergency Management Canada. (Public Safety) All CF personnel should be NBC trained. It shouldn't be sof http://www.publicsaf.../index-eng.aspx http://www.publicsaf...ersapc-eng.aspx You should be pleased to know that by no later than 2017 there will be a NBC response plan functioning in Canada, and potentially by 2015. Cause what are the chances of the being an NBC issue here in Canada where the NBC and Disaster recovery people are needed for, right? Edited December 12, 2012 by login Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Plans are wonderful but who is going to be doing the work on the ground? This is also a plan for response in Canada, there is no mention of giving assistance elsewhere and you can't send civilians into war zones to face the same sort of risks as the military, certainly not without their consent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Good. When you mobilize chemical weapons and threaten to use them, you need to be met with swift resistance from the international community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Yesterday's news that Obama has recognized the Syrian opposition as the legitimate government Syria means that by the end of this year Assad will have been overthrown. Then we will have yet another country governed by the muslim-brotherhood and we will be surprised why they hate the west even though the west brought them democracy. A real de ja vu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
login Posted December 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) Good. When you mobilize chemical weapons and threaten to use them, you need to be met with swift resistance from the international community. Sarin really isn't that evil. It is not really much more effectve than a bomb, but it causes less physical damage and low grade shelters won't protect from it. The bad ones are the stuff US and Russia have in stockpile like VX, and the seriouslly endangering biological weapons Sarin is just a killer it isn't "dangerous" outside the zone of deployment. GBU bombs are more dangerous. I'm very skeptical of your by the end of the year timeline. I would say if anything moves it will be atleast 4 months from now if that. Unless Nato goes in it will continue to be a proxy war for some time. But there appears to be a plan but I would geuss it has to be within the next month or two unless they change up the Naval deployments. I don't think Turkey has the stomach for it. They are big and they are tough but they are all about beating up on minorities not governments. That is why the chemical weapons were moved to the North, Turkey is the muscle in any invasion and they will get hit with gas if they move in, in force. Right now Natos deployments in Syria are relatively small in number and in part false flag ops, spec ops. They won't move in regulars until it is convienient to obey the rules of war. War with Syria = War with Iran If Turkey goes into Iran, Iran will attack Turkey. In that type of mega scenario it wouldnot be unthinkable that Russia went in, and China might feel compelled. Which Nato might be down for because it has the flex, but it is not just a simple invasion of Syria. Iran is on the periphrial of the Shanghai 5 group (SCO) If a "war" occured it would be devastating and felt. Edited December 13, 2012 by login Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairos Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Invading Syria would be incredibly stupid. Canada in conflict with Russia and Iran would be the epitome of stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairos Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 p.s. we've all heard of the wmd schtick before. It would be nice if people learned from history rather than acting with the memory of a goldfish and repeating the same stupid mistakes over and over again every few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
login Posted December 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) p.s. we've all heard of the wmd schtick before. It would be nice if people learned from history rather than acting with the memory of a goldfish and repeating the same stupid mistakes over and over again every few years. So you are ok with Syria and Syrian rebels indisciminantly using Sarin, Mustard Gas, and potentially even VX? http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_12_11/Chemical-arms-rhetoric-prelude-to-Syria-invasion/ Edited December 13, 2012 by login Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
login Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) Looks like canada can vote now turkey is calling for an invasion http://www.wnd.com/2...ttack-on-syria/ the un angle is also tacitfully calling for a prevention of civil war slide.. only problem here is both sides committed war crimes apparently " http://www.theaustra...6-1226545322022 " the chritian incentive, slaughter of christians if islamist rebels win u.s. accountability act sovereignty is not a privilege but a responsibility that can be revoked if a country is accused of “war crimes,” “genocide,” “crimes against humanity” or “ethnic cleansing.” Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2...452tldGcmFAC.99 russia has sent another landing ship they say " to evacuate thousands of Russians from Syria if needed" Edited December 31, 2012 by login Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Assad has already lost. The rebels are in control of most of the country already. There will be no invasion unless it's just a quick in and out to secure dangerous weapons stockpiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 All of these civil uprisings are being helped by the USA of course. Don't be naive, the US is removing the governments it doesn't want to deal with any more. It's called a proxy war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 All of these civil uprisings are being helped by the USA of course. Don't be naive, the US is removing the governments it doesn't want to deal with any more. It's called a proxy war. I doubt very much that the US will want to deal with whatever finds itself in power in Syria when the dust settles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairos Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 So you are ok with Syria and Syrian rebels indisciminantly using Sarin, Mustard Gas, and potentially even VX? Have either used such weapons? No right. So all the war mongering is just that war mongering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I doubt very much that the US will want to deal with whatever finds itself in power in Syria when the dust settles. The U.S. will "deal with" whatever emerges from the conflict. Of course, the tipping point was Assad's fear of a Canadian invasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 The U.S. will "deal with" whatever emerges from the conflict. Of course, the tipping point was Assad's fear of a Canadian invasion. I didn't say they wouldn't. I said they wouldn't want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I didn't say they wouldn't. I said they wouldn't want to. And you would be wrong...the U.S. started knocking over these regimes years ago....Canada had nosebleed seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 And you would be wrong...the U.S. started knocking over these regimes years ago....Canada had nosebleed seats. What's with the obsession with Canada? The new regime in Syria is going to be Al Qaeda supporting Islamists. The US is not going to want to deal with them. Unless you mean "deal with them". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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