cybercoma Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 It seems the conflict is heating up. The Pentagon announced yesterday that two Iranian jets fired on a predator drone in the Persian Gulf on Nov. 1. Read it: http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/08/first-on-cnn-iranian-jets-fire-on-u-s-drone/ Quote
Merlin Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 If Iran and the US go to war it will bring Russia and China into the conflict siding with Iran which will lead to a world war. Quote
sharkman Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 This story happened last week. Would anyone hazard a guess as to why it was deemed prudent to not tell American citizens, on the eve of an election, of such an escalation? Quote
BubberMiley Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) Would anyone hazard a guess as to why it was deemed prudent to not tell American citizens, on the eve of an election, of such an escalation? Because it was a conspiracy. Don't you know it's always a conspiracy? Libya wasn't an attack on Americans, it was a Democratic scandal by Americans. The polls were rigged for Obama, and even though they proved accurate in the end, that was just because the conspiracy worked. Same with the Jobs reports. Obama has been conspiratorial since he was a baby in Kenya, plotting his war on Christmas. I'm surprised you even had to ask. Edited November 9, 2012 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
wyly Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 it's a non-event...if americans flew drones into Iranian airspace Iran can shoot them down and the US has nothing to complain about, it's not even an escalation of tension....no wars are going to be started over shooting down spy planes, ain't gonna happen... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 If Iran and the US go to war it will bring Russia and China into the conflict siding with Iran which will lead to a world war. fantasy...there will be no world wars over Iranian nuclear technology... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
WWWTT Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 Ya this is a no brainer actually. I predicted months ago that the republicans were trying to make something out of nothing to try and win political points. I wouldn't be surprised if these things happen on a more frequent basis and we just don't here about it more often. The US is always challenging the military capabilities of other countries all the time and these other countries do the same with the US. Same old same old. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
GostHacked Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 And if Iran was flying a drone near the US homeland, we'd never hear the end of it. Quote
Guest Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 And we're never hearing the end of this, so that's fair enough then. Quote
Signals.Cpl Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 If Iran and the US go to war it will bring Russia and China into the conflict siding with Iran which will lead to a world war. highly doubt that, neither country will risk a major war in order to protect Iran just like Russia will not go to war to protect Syria. Quote Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst
DogOnPorch Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 it's a non-event...if americans flew drones into Iranian airspace Iran can shoot them down and the US has nothing to complain about, it's not even an escalation of tension....no wars are going to be started over shooting down spy planes, ain't gonna happen... 1. It was an unarmed recon drone. 2. It was in international territory. 3. Two Iranian Su-25s couldn't shoot it down...but, they did fire missiles at it and missed. Not a good day for Iranian air defenses. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 ...3. Two Iranian Su-25s couldn't shoot it down...but, they did fire missiles at it and missed. Not a good day for Iranian air defenses. Good to know....I'll bet the IAF is LOL ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Bonam Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 Well, I think my stance on Iran is well known, but when it comes to foreign drones entering their airspace, I think they have every right to shoot at them. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 Good to know....I'll bet the IAF is LOL ! If your top-shelf Sovie...errrr sorry...Russian Su-25 can't shoot down an unarmed drone doing lazy-8s over the Gulf, it's time to complain to the manufacturer. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) Well, I think my stance on Iran is well known, but when it comes to foreign drones entering their airspace, I think they have every right to shoot at them. It wasn't in Iranian airspace...thus the problem. Edited November 9, 2012 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 In the U.S., we just lock on and beam them to an old bus garage in Buffalo, NY. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Bonam Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) It wasn't in Iranian airspace...thus the problem. Oh, didn't realize. Still, doesn;t seem like a big deal, it's an unmanned drone... Edited November 9, 2012 by Bonam Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) Oh, didn't realize. Yes...the Mullahs are testing zee waters, I'd say. What is BO gonna do now? Arrest a film maker? Edited November 9, 2012 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 If your top-shelf Sovie...errrr sorry...Russian Su-25 can't shoot down an unarmed drone doing lazy-8s over the Gulf, it's time to complain to the manufacturer. We can revisit the drone that the US flew over Iran in which Iran was able to hack into it and land it. Who needs to fire anything when there are known flaws in the GPS system prone to hacking, that controls the drones? Then Obama asked ' um can we have it back?', which the Iran response was 'lol'. Quote
dre Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 We can revisit the drone that the US flew over Iran in which Iran was able to hack into it and land it. Who needs to fire anything when there are known flaws in the GPS system prone to hacking, that controls the drones? Then Obama asked ' um can we have it back?', which the Iran response was 'lol'. I agree this incident in itself is not a big deal. But the danger here is how intent mal-actors like the US and Iran are on provoking each other, and the possibility that their idiocy could drag the rest of us into war. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 I agree this incident in itself is not a big deal. But the danger here is how intent mal-actors like the US and Iran are on provoking each other, and the possibility that their idiocy could drag the rest of us into war. Too bad....if there is to be war then there will be war. It's not like it has never happened before. Canada was never "dragged" into a war. Name the last war Mexico was "dragged" into. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 Too bad....if there is to be war then there will be war. It's not like it has never happened before. Canada was never "dragged" into a war. Name the last war Mexico was "dragged" into. The War on Drugs? Quote
Black Dog Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 If your top-shelf Sovie...errrr sorry...Russian Su-25 can't shoot down an unarmed drone doing lazy-8s over the Gulf, it's time to complain to the manufacturer. Top shelf? You're talking about aircraft that are more than 30 years old and designed for a ground attack role. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) Top shelf? You're talking about aircraft that are more than 30 years old and designed for a ground attack role. So is the A-10 Warthog. Again...this says A LOT about Iran's approach to air defense. These Frogfoot(s)* were liberated from Saddam's air force, to boot. Perhaps, to be fair, the drone could have waited until some later model interceptors arrived. http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/11/09/watch_the_drone_why_didnt_the_iranian_pilots_down_the_us_predator * 11 in all, apparently. Edited November 9, 2012 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
wyly Posted November 10, 2012 Report Posted November 10, 2012 We can revisit the drone that the US flew over Iran in which Iran was able to hack into it and land it. Who needs to fire anything when there are known flaws in the GPS system prone to hacking, that controls the drones? Then Obama asked ' um can we have it back?', which the Iran response was 'lol'. US drones over Iran no way! americans would never violate another countries airspace we can trust them to tell us the truth Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
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