Michigan Cop visiting Calgary - what a world view!

[Guest American Woman]

I will add, also, that Americans don't need passports for Puerto Rico or the U.S. Virgin Islands or American Samoa.

[GostHacked]

I will add, also, that Americans don't need passports for Puerto Rico or the U.S. Virgin Islands or American Samoa.

True, but they get to feel the love from the TSA wherever Americans travel.

[The_Squid]

Hawaii has rainforests, too. Of the tropical variety.

good point.

[WWWTT]

I'd hate to live in a constant state of paranoia where you think everyone is out to get you. And in many cases you end up being scared because that the person carrying the weapon is the cop.

In many of those videos the final reports were that the cops acted within regulations and proper force was administered. Nothing gets me more pissed than arrogant cops beat the hell out of someoone when their job is to simply restrain the suspect .. the courts decide the guilt and sentence.

Here is another pisser ... http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.913075

Ya the unfortunate thing is that the crown attorney or in the US the state attorney(or whatever the American equivalent is) don't press charges against their own cops.

It is up to the plaintiff to make an expensive civil case.

In the RCMP case I can see the RCMP losing or settling out of court.

WWWTT

[WWWTT]

Do you have any proof that officer Wawra is guilty of doing any of the things you are accusing him of, any "questionable things," much less "a lot of questionable things?" Sounds like defamation of character to me. :angry:

I probably have the same amount of proof that this cop would have in order to draw his gun out and start barking out commands to get on the ground.

Oh but now I must be held to some kind of higher standard and the Michigan cop is just doing his job right?

WWWTT

[wyly]

On the other hand, they don' t have to leave their own country to get warm in the winter

I'm warm summer and winter I've never felt a need to "get warm" in winter...I like winter...

[guyser]

Ya the unfortunate thing is that the crown attorney or in the US the state attorney(or whatever the American equivalent is) don't press charges against their own cops.

Sure they do.

That you dont know they do is the problem. Cops are cops,they will always band together and keep the thin blue line going.

[wyly]

Here is another pisser ... http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.913075

how these cops don't lose their jobs and end up with criminal records is beyond belief...beating people while they're restrained and outnumbered is disgusting cowardice...

[Guest American Woman]

I probably have the same amount of proof that this cop would have in order to draw his gun out and start barking out commands to get on the ground.

You don't even know that he would do that. You just keep accusing him of crap based on your biased mindset.

Oh but now I must be held to some kind of higher standard and the Michigan cop is just doing his job right?

I have no idea what you are blathering on about regarding a "higher standard" for you. You have no idea what he has or hasn't done - but that doesn't stop you from making your claims, does it?

How would you like it if people started mouthing off on the internet about you committing wrongdoings - using your real name - just based on what you've said here and their own prejudices?

What you are doing is defamation of character.

[WWWTT]

Sure they do.

That you dont know they do is the problem. Cops are cops,they will always band together and keep the thin blue line going.

From time to time I do here about a cop getting charged.It happens.But yes not enough.

WWWTT

[WWWTT]

You don't even know that he would do that. You just keep accusing him of crap based on your biased mindset.

Yep and that's pretty much how many cops work.

This is called treating cops the same way they treat others.

WWWTT

[Army Guy]

No it's call being an idiot, and painting an entire group of people with one brush, that and being to frigging lazy to do any serious research. good luck with that.

[GostHacked]

No it's call being an idiot, and painting an entire group of people with one brush, that and being to frigging lazy to do any serious research. good luck with that.

Well, when so many cops get away with so much, like the video I posted, you see cops going WAY over the top and actually killing people right on the spot. The bad cops get away with a literal slap on the wrist.

I personally know one cop (old high school friend) that needs to be fired from the police force. He has a problem with the drink, wrecked his car and damaged two police cruisers because of it, and also was brought up on assault charges. I also have another friend on the same force who is one solid stand-up type of person and is very level headed.

I don't have any love for cops who like to administer 'punishment for the crime' right there on the spot. Again, not all cops are bad, but the bad ones are protected so much in many cases that the public no longer trusts ANYONE on the force. Yes those few bad apples will ruin it for the rest of the force. Now if the police actually stood up and turned their backs on anyone and call them out for their crimes while on duty, we might trust the police a bit more. But until the bad ones are called out by the good ones, you can paint them all with the same brush.

Sometimes the cops get their just reward. But this only comes out because of the video evidence and hospital records that showed Kelly died from the injuries received from the beat down of those 'police officers'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kelly_Thomas

Kelly Thomas (April 5, 1974 – July 10, 2011) was a homeless man with schizophrenia who lived on the streets of Fullerton, California, before he was severely beaten by members of the Fullerton Police Department on July 5, 2011. After paramedics treated the officers first for minor injuries,[2] Thomas was taken to St. Jude Medical Center before being transferred to the UC Irvine Medical Center, where he was comatose on arrival and not expected to recover. He never regained consciousness, and died on July 10, 2011.[3]

Medical records show that bones in his face were broken and he choked on his own blood.[4] The coroner concluded that compression of the thorax made it impossible for Thomas to breathe normally and deprived his brain of oxygen.[5] His parents removed him from life support five days later, and he died from his injuries on July 10, 2011.[6] Officer Manuel Ramos was charged with one count of second-degree murder and one count of involuntary manslaughter; Corporal Jay Cicinelli was charged with one count of involuntary manslaughter and one count of excessive force.[5][7] Both pleaded not guilty.

If you search for the video online, you can watch it all unfold. Absolutely disgusting, and this is even a lower form of human than a terrorist, because THESE are the people that are supposed to protect YOU and ME, instead of beating the living right out of a person.

[WWWTT]

No it's call being an idiot, and painting an entire group of people with one brush, that and being to frigging lazy to do any serious research. good luck with that.

Being lazy?Is it my responsibility to find the good cops?I don't think so!

This cop from Michigan went out of his way to express how he felt uncomfortable to not have his gun with him.When some police interact with people,they will jump ready to kill over such subtle hints.

Whats wrong with treating a cop the same way he treats others?

You think this cop should be worshiped and praised and given the benefit of the doubt?I'm not.

WWWTT

[Guest American Woman]

Being lazy?Is it my responsibility to find the good cops?I don't think so!

This cop from Michigan went out of his way to express how he felt uncomfortable to not have his gun with him.When some police interact with people,they will jump ready to kill over such subtle hints.

Whats wrong with treating a cop the same way he treats others?

You think this cop should be worshiped and praised and given the benefit of the doubt?I'm not.

Let's edit this, according to what you are able to see as bias, that so that you might understand your own mindset:

Being lazy?Is it my responsibility to find the good

cops

Muslims?I don't think so!

This

cop from Michigan

organization of Muslims went out of

his

their way to express how

he felt uncomfortable to not have his gun with him

they feel about westerners when they purposely killed innocent civlians. When some

police

Muslims interact with people,they will jump ready to kill over such subtle hints.

Whats wrong with treating

a cop

Muslims the same way

he

they treats others?

You think

this cop

Muslims should be worshiped and praised and given the benefit of the doubt?I'm not.

So. Are you getting the the picture yet?

You are no different from others who criticize the whole for the actions of the few. It's called bias. It's called prejudice. It's not pretty. And it's you.

[cybercoma]

Being lazy?Is it my responsibility to find the good cops?I don't think so!

This cop from Michigan went out of his way to express how he felt uncomfortable to not have his gun with him.When some police interact with people,they will jump ready to kill over such subtle hints.

Whats wrong with treating a cop the same way he treats others?

You think this cop should be worshiped and praised and given the benefit of the doubt?I'm not.

WWWTT

Your post makes me think of how interesting it is that people seem to immediately jump to the conclusion that the unarmed people who asked if he had been to the Stampede had nefarious intents, but as soon as you ascribe nefarious intents to the guy who was complaining that he didn't have a gun on him that's not cool for some reason.

[msj]

Let's edit this, according to what you are able to see as bias, that so that you might understand your own mindset:

Being lazy?Is it my responsibility to find the good

cops

Muslims?I don't think so!

This

cop from Michigan

organization of Muslims went out of

his

their way to express how

he felt uncomfortable to not have his gun with him

they feel about westerners when they purposely killed innocent civlians. When some

police

Muslims interact with people,they will jump ready to kill over such subtle hints.

Whats wrong with treating

a cop

Muslims the same way

he

they treats others?

You think

this cop

Muslims should be worshiped and praised and given the benefit of the doubt?I'm not.

So. Are you getting the the picture yet?

You are no different from others who criticize the whole for the actions of the few. It's called bias. It's called prejudice. It's not pretty. And it's you.

Congratulations AW! You win the prize of me offering you congratulations.

Ya, that sucks.

Oh, and now that you have come to this sensible conclusion, I'm sure you'll agree to a certain mosque being located near a certain location?

Or are you getting the picture yet?

[msj]

Your post makes me think of how interesting it is that people seem to immediately jump to the conclusion that the unarmed people who asked if he had been to the Stampede had nefarious intents, but as soon as you ascribe nefarious intents to the guy who was complaining that he didn't have a gun on him that's not cool for some reason.

Yep, I agree.

It is very interesting.

Probably has to do with how people view things or something but I wouldn't want to bring the topic back to the questions asked in the OP now, would I?

[WWWTT]

Let's edit this, according to what you are able to see as bias, that so that you might understand your own mindset:

Being lazy?Is it my responsibility to find the good

cops

Muslims?I don't think so!

This

cop from Michigan

organization of Muslims went out of

his

their way to express how

he felt uncomfortable to not have his gun with him

they feel about westerners when they purposely killed innocent civlians. When some

police

Muslims interact with people,they will jump ready to kill over such subtle hints.

Whats wrong with treating

a cop

Muslims the same way

he

they treats others?

You think

this cop

Muslims should be worshiped and praised and given the benefit of the doubt?I'm not.

So. Are you getting the the picture yet?

You are no different from others who criticize the whole for the actions of the few. It's called bias. It's called prejudice. It's not pretty. And it's you.

What are you trying to say here?

I never knew that members of a specific religion was paid tax dollars to keep the peace,make arrests,enforce traffic and respond to complaints and emergencies?Oh I forgot to add,are allowed to carry and use firearms at their own discretion!

See the difference there sweetie?

WWWTT

[Guest American Woman]

What are you trying to say here?

Isn't it obvious?

I never knew that members of a specific religion was paid tax dollars to keep the peace,make arrests,enforce traffic and respond to complaints and emergencies?Oh I forgot to add,are allowed to carry and use firearms at their own discretion!

So anyone else cannot be painted with the same brush the way you are doing? Thanks for proving my point about y'all.

See the difference there sweetie?

Oh, I see alright. It's you who is blind. Just as I suspected.

[WWWTT]

Oh, I see alright. It's you who is blind. Just as I suspected.

Tell that to the wrongly arrested at the Toronto G20 protests!

WWWTT

[Army Guy]

Well, when so many cops get away with so much, like the video I posted, you see cops going WAY over the top and actually killing people right on the spot. The bad cops get away with a literal slap on the wrist.

Describe many for me, 10%, 50%, 75% of all officers, just so we are on the same page many to me means the majority, really is that what you meant.

I get it there are Some bad cops , just like there are bad professionals in any trade, or in our our neibourhoods. would you say that these cops that have killed someone , have they been charged, and had their day in court.

I personally know one cop (old high school friend) that needs to be fired from the police force. He has a problem with the drink, wrecked his car and damaged two police cruisers because of it, and also was brought up on assault charges. I also have another friend on the same force who is one solid stand-up type of person and is very level headed.

GH i now alot of good soldiers who have been on the job to long and suffer from some form of depression or PTSD, and yes this infliction makes them assholes, but do we throw them away,i mean after all they got this way from serving us....and while treatment is getting better sometimes it's not available to everyone, or nobody forces them to get help...I'm not saying they should not be accountable for there acts it should be a consideration thats all.

I

don't have any love for cops who like to administer 'punishment for the crime' right there on the spot. Again, not all cops are bad, but the bad ones are protected so much in many cases that the public no longer trusts ANYONE on the force. Yes those few bad apples will ruin it for the rest of the force.

Nobody does, but there are some including you that have painted the entire force with the same foul smelling brush, how about we target those that need targeting is all i'm saying.

Because i'm sure for every bad cop out there there is three cops that are good with good deeds behind them.

[Army Guy]

WWTT

Being lazy?Is it my responsibility to find the good cops?I don't think so!

It's called research, educate yourself on the topic before you open your lips, your the one that has painted the entire group with one brush, see what you have here is an opinion, and like assholes everyone has one....and they don't count for much...

This cop from Michigan went out of his way to express how he felt uncomfortable to not have his gun with him

And living up to our true new Canadian past time you jumped on him for expressing his (opinion) "we covered that already in the opening statement" and because his is different and you don't understand it, you had to label it.

.When some police interact with people,they will jump ready to kill over such subtle hints.

Because some do it , you automatically paint this police force member....Some whites have killed blacks, all whites are racist,

Some whites own guns, ...all whites are gun freaks, Some whites drink....all whites are piss tanks....we could do this all day...

Whats wrong with treating a cop the same way he treats others?

Your good, i mean really good, you've read less than a paragraph of what was written by this man and you've made a judgement , you've labeld him....from that paragraph you've made assumptions into everything....

You think this cop should be worshiped and praised and given the benefit of the doubt?I'm not.

I don't think he should be worshiped , perhaps given the same amount of respect we give most people, or would expect for others to show us.

You've made that perfectly clear, in all your posts, you've taken this oportunity to jump on board lets slam Americans, police officers and people who have different opinions from your self.

Edited August 16, 2012 by Army Guy

[The_Squid]

perhaps given the same amount of respect we give most people, or would expect for others to show us.

Naw. He whined to the papers about how he wished he had a gun so he could defend himself from some Canadians who dared to ask If he had been to the stampede yet. This idiot doesn't deserve respect. This paranoid gun nut deserves our derision.

[Guest American Woman]

Naw. He whined to the papers about how he wished he had a gun so he could defend himself from some Canadians who dared to ask If he had been to the stampede yet. This idiot doesn't deserve respect. This paranoid gun nut deserves our derision.

Mockery and allegations of wrong doing with absolutely no evidence are two very different things.