moderateamericain Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 Apparently for security, or at least the feeling of it. Security from without and within. Would you trust the US government as it is now if we had a disarmed society? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 ....Its black and white folks. In the United States of America we do not ban the right to purchase/obtain, and use firearms. To do so would violate a core principle of our country. Thank you for making that perfectly clear. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Wilber Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 Security from without and within. Would you trust the US government as it is now if we had a disarmed society? Your government, your problem. Why is this such a problem for Americans? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
The_Squid Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 My heart goes out to the family's and friends this degenerated psycho hurt. As far as gun control goes... A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Its black and white folks. In the United States of America we do not ban the right to purchase/obtain, and use firearms. To do so would violate a core principle of our country. Actually, your country does. Some weapons are illegal. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 Your government, your problem. Why is this such a problem for Americans? Who says it's just a problem for Americans? It's not like the bullets bounce off Canadians like Superman. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Wilber Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 Who says it's just a problem for Americans? It's not like the bullets bounce off Canadians like Superman. Among developed countries, a fear of its own government that requires its citizens to arm themselves seems to be an American peculiarity. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Among developed countries, a fear of its own government that requires its citizens to arm themselves seems to be an American peculiarity. Actually, it started with a "fear" of your government...but that didn't last long. Now the government fears an armed citizenry. Edited July 24, 2012 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Wilber Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 Actually, it started with a "fear" of your government...but that didn't last long. Now the government fears an armed citizenry. Wonderful, have a nice day. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 Wonderful, have a nice day. You too. Praise God and pass the ammunition. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Wilber Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 You too. Praise God and pass the ammunition. Whatever. I guess that is a basic difference between Americans and Canadians. Your relationship with your government requires guns, ours doesn't. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Whatever. I guess that is a basic difference between Americans and Canadians. Your relationship with your government requires guns, ours doesn't. We The People....don't live to serve the "government" or monarchy. The relationship is based on individual liberty and enumerated rights. You guys eventually got some in writing too. There are a lot of guns in Canada. Edited July 24, 2012 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Wilber Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 The relationship is based on individual liberty and enumerated rights. You guys eventually got some in writing too. There are a lot of guns in Canada. Yes we do and yes there are but the guns aren't part of the relationship. You won't hear a Canadian say he needs to be armed to instill fear in his government, the next election will do just fine. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Peter F Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 There are Baby Sitting services? What happened to the days of hiring local teenagers? Babysitters with guns cost a bit more than babysitters with moms phone number Quote A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 Yes we do and yes there are but the guns aren't part of the relationship. You won't hear a Canadian say he needs to be armed to instill fear in his government, the next election will do just fine. That's because Canadians didn't have direct control of your government or head of state, let alone its own constitution until 1982. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jbg Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 Wasn't the Saskatchwan Seal Hunt a classic Talking to Americans skit? Yes.I would love Rick Mercer to try that idiotic stunt on me. I'd cut him to ribbons, on the air. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Wilber Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 That's because Canadians didn't have direct control of your government or head of state, let alone its own constitution until 1982. Whatever floats your boat. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 Whatever floats your boat. It's not my boat...firearms are inseparable from the history of the United States and the American experience. They were the tools of subsistence, rebellion, conquest, expansion, and civil war. It is only appropriate that firearms rights differentiate Canada from the USA. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WWWTT Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 We The People....don't live to serve the "government" or monarchy. The relationship is based on individual liberty and enumerated rights. You guys eventually got some in writing too. Ok then,don't pay your taxes and see how much your guns will help protect you! Big difference between talking big and actually putting those words into practice. Oh and by the way,keep paying your taxes and do not point your guns at anyone or your government will smoke you! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
bleeding heart Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 Yes. I would love Rick Mercer to try that idiotic stunt on me. I'd cut him to ribbons, on the air. I strongly suspect that he did interview knowledgeable Americans....and, well, left those parts on the editing room floor. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
Guest American Woman Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Yes. I would love Rick Mercer to try that idiotic stunt on me. I'd cut him to ribbons, on the air. You'd never make it on the air - only the stupid responses are aired. The whole point is to make Americans look stupid, so of course only those who give stupid answers are on the program. Edited July 24, 2012 by American Woman Quote
Guest Manny Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 You'd never make it on the air - only the stupid responses are aired. The whole point is to make Americans look stupid, so of course only those who give stupid answers are on the program. AKA "comedy"... Quote
GostHacked Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 Whatever. I guess that is a basic difference between Americans and Canadians. Your relationship with your government requires guns, ours doesn't. If things are going the way they seems to be going in Canada, that will change here as well. Quote
waldo Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 I would love Rick Mercer to try that idiotic stunt on me. I'd cut him to ribbons, on the air. at least you're better prepared now that your misunderstanding of Canada's flag has been corrected, hey? Oh wait... has Rick Mercer ever been to Ajax Ontariariario! It was the adoption of a party's logo as the flag that was deplorable, and the unrequited effort to appease one disloyal group. utter nonsense! Flag proposals existed in many forms through a decades lead-up to Pearson's final initiative... there are historical websites that clearly show variants of flag proposals from the 30's and 40's that included some manner of the maple-leaf. From the Canadian Heritage website:... there is also no shortage of historical material related to the 'great Canadian flag debate'. Through all of what I've just read this past while, I've not read a single reference to any raised concern over the, as you say, "adoption of a party's logo"... which kind of leads me pondering just when was the red-maple leaf incorporated into the Liberal party through the many logo variants its had over the years. Should we also highlight that the official logo of the Conservative party also includes a red-maple leaf, hey? one flag debate item that consistently shows up is over color - the red of the maple-leaf... apparently, concerns relative to the Liberal party color. However, from the same Heritage Canada website: ... ... and as a final rebuke to your nonsense, this is actually the flag Pearson personally favoured and lobbied for... with the blue bars intended to signify 'from sea to sea'. Quote
Wilber Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 If things are going the way they seems to be going in Canada, that will change here as well. Why, are you planning on arming yourself to instill fear in your government? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Wilber Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 You'd never make it on the air - only the stupid responses are aired. The whole point is to make Americans look stupid, so of course only those who give stupid answers are on the program. I mostly like Mercer but didn't like those skits because I had a similar feeling about them. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
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