Moonlight Graham Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Article in today's Ottawa Citizen via Daily Telegraph: Republican presidential hopefuls ready to take Iran to warObama's handling of Tehran's nuclear ambitions called 'weak' Republican presidential hopefuls have promised to go to war to stop Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon, painting Barack Obama's handling of Tehran as the most serious of a string of overseas failures. Mitt Romney, the favourite to clinch the party's candidacy, said he would direct U.S. forces to pre-emptively strike Iran's nuclear facilities if "crippling sanctions" failed to block their ambitions. "If all else fails, if after all of the work we've done, there's nothing else we could do besides take military action," Romney said at a debate on foreign policy in South Carolina. The former Massachusetts governor's pledge was echoed by Newt Gingrich, the former Speaker of the House of Representatives who, over the weekend, rose to second place in some national opinion polls. "You have to take whatever steps are necessary to break its capacity to have a nuclear weapon," said Gingrich, who also proposed covert actions such as "taking out their scientists," to applause. ... Romney said: "If we re-elect Barack Obama, Iran will have a nuclear weapon. If you elect Mitt Romney, Iran will not have a nuclear weapon." War drums bum-bum-bum-bum... Puts more pressure on Obama to act hawkish with Iran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted November 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Also read this from same article: BRITAIN READY IF IRAN BECOMES A THREAT Britain has plans "in the locker" to strike Iran if it becomes a threat, the head of the Armed Forces said. General Sir David Richards said Sunday that the Ministry of Defence had "all sorts of contingencies" that would allow the U.K. and its allies to deploy force "quickly and efficiently." Richards, Chief of the Defence Staff, said: "We have got, as you would expect, I hope, a lot of plans in the locker." bum-bum-bum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Article in today's Ottawa Citizen via Daily Telegraph: War drums bum-bum-bum-bum... Puts more pressure on Obama to act hawkish with Iran. Why should the leadership of Iran give a damn? Nobody can react fast enough to prevent their launching a first strike on Israel. At that point, it becomes a fait accompli. Israel is GONE! No western power will retaliate with nukes on behalf of Israel. That would only escalate the problem and kill not just the nutbar ayatollahs but perhaps millions of innocent Iranians who had nothing to do with deciding to nuke Israel. They don't get to vote to choose their leaders so how could they be held responsible? There might be an invasion and/or a forced regime change but to the mullahs, they themselves have already said such a scenario would be worth it! Iran might suffer damage but over the years would rebuild. Israel would be dead and gone! As for any nearby Palestinians, the Iranian leaders have never given a damn for them before so why would they care now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Why should the leadership of Iran give a damn? Nobody can react fast enough to prevent their launching a first strike on Israel. At that point, it becomes a fait accompli. Israel is GONE!why would they launch a nuclear strike when doing so will bring an equal nuclear strike from israel?No western power will retaliate with nukes on behalf of Israel. That would only escalate the problem and kill not just the nutbar ayatollahs but perhaps millions of innocent Iranians who had nothing to do with deciding to nuke Israel. They don't get to vote to choose their leaders so how could they be held responsible?why would any nation do what israel itself will do?There might be an invasion and/or a forced regime change but to the mullahs, they themselves have already said such a scenario would be worth it! Iran might suffer damage but over the years would rebuild. talk is cheap, every nation does it...As for any nearby Palestinians, the Iranian leaders have never given a damn for them before so why would they care now?other than your own opinion you have cite to back that up??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Article in today's Ottawa Citizen via Daily Telegraph: War drums bum-bum-bum-bum... Puts more pressure on Obama to act hawkish with Iran. election jibber jabber to appease the hard right nutters, it'll all disappear after the election... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 They don't get to vote to choose their leaders so how could they be held responsible? they do get to vote and stories of vote rigging are purely speculative... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Why should the leadership of Iran give a damn? Nobody can react fast enough to prevent their launching a first strike on Israel. At that point, it becomes a fait accompli. Israel is GONE! Except it will take a long time before Iran could match Israel in nuclear capability. Israel also has second strike capability in the form of submarine mounted cruise missiles. Israel might be gone but Iran would also be toast within a few hours. Would Iran martyr itself in order to take out Israel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted November 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Would Iran martyr itself in order to take out Israel? I highly doubt it. Even if Iran came out and specifically said "we'd love to nuke Israel", talk is one thing but doing it is another (considering they'd be dead from it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Would Iran martyr itself in order to take out Israel? IMO...nope... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Article in today's Ottawa Citizen via Daily Telegraph: War drums bum-bum-bum-bum... Puts more pressure on Obama to act hawkish with Iran. Complete nonsense. If you want peaceful measures to work, you can't take military action off the table. If you don't establish military action as a possible and realistic course of action, Iran really doesn't have anything to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 nobody is nuking anybody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 (edited) These types of war scenarios have been talked about and discussed at lengthy level here and elsewhere. It started from the Rest of the world first involving Israel attacking Iran. The goalposts then got shifted to get Canada on board to help Israel in Federal politics section and now it appears here in US politics... Personally, I think this guy Mitt Romney wants to make a name for himself, buy votes and fulfill the appetite for some hawkes and sabre rattlers. It is inconceivable why Iran would want to attack Israel without being attacked first. It just doesn't stack up why a country like Iran with no history of attacking another country would want to attack Israel conventionally or potentially by nuclear. I just get a sense there are many people on this forum that are trying very hard from every different angle to get canadians to go to war with Iran for Israel... Edited November 14, 2011 by kactus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 The goalposts then got shifted to get Canada on board to help Israel in Federal politics section and now it appears here in US politics... ...and just exactly what is it that Canada can do for Israel that it can't already do by itself (and better)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 self-fulfilling prophecy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 I highly doubt it. Even if Iran came out and specifically said "we'd love to nuke Israel", talk is one thing but doing it is another (considering they'd be dead from it). It's time for at least regime change in Iran. Eliminating Mossadegh was a great idea. High time we did it to his linear descendants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted November 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Eliminating Mossadegh was a great idea. Yeah worked out great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Eliminating Mossadegh was a great idea. Great for who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 ...and just exactly what is it that Canada can do for Israel that it can't already do by itself (and better)? Getting Canada's approval will strengthen their position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Getting Canada's approval will strengthen their position. Oh...you mean like having the Pope's blessing? OK...I'm sure that made a big difference in Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Jones Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Eliminating Mossadegh was a great idea. The democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran? How was it a great idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 How many of these world leaders where around when the US dropped the bomb on Japan? None or very little of them and so with that fact, anyone of these guy would drop the bomb, out of little information from the past of how it kills and destroys people and areas. IF Israel and Iran did start a nuke war, once that bomb is dropped no other country would send troops in there for sure. it would be suicide. How many countries would be affected by the fallout? This kind of talk, maybe its time to rebuild those nuke shelters again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Complete nonsense. If you want peaceful measures to work, you can't take military action off the table. If you don't establish military action as a possible and realistic course of action, Iran really doesn't have anything to worry about. If we want peace there must be war!!! We must bomb them for peace and stability!! Oh ffs. Tell me who is doing the destabalizing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 How many of these world leaders where around when the US dropped the bomb on Japan? None or very little of them and so with that fact, anyone of these guy would drop the bomb, out of little information from the past of how it kills and destroys people and areas. No, I am pretty sure they know what the effects would be...that's why everybody is so excited! IF Israel and Iran did start a nuke war, once that bomb is dropped no other country would send troops in there for sure. it would be suicide. How many countries would be affected by the fallout? This kind of talk, maybe its time to rebuild those nuke shelters again. Rebuild? Never should have taken yours apart! Cue Donald Fagen video now: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 The democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran? How was it a great idea? It just wasn't followed up on very well. The actions of Mossadegh and the Ayatollahs were and are inconsistent with property rights and safety of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Jones Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) It just wasn't followed up on very well. The actions of Mossadegh and the Ayatollahs were and are inconsistent with property rights and safety of others. Please explain. Iran's oil was the property of someone else? What did Mossadegh do that put people's safety in danger? Edited November 16, 2011 by Hudson Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.