cybercoma Posted November 16, 2011 Report Posted November 16, 2011 It's time for at least regime change in Iran. Eliminating Mossadegh was a great idea. High time we did it to his linear descendants. That's not for you to decide. [/mode:bush_cheney2004] Quote "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." --Thomas Jefferson
jbg Posted November 16, 2011 Report Posted November 16, 2011 Iran's oil was the property of someone else? What did Mossadegh do that put people's safety in danger? Last I checked, BP developed that oil. BP supplied the capital that made the development possible. Mossadegh expropriated the oil.Something is wrong with this picture. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Hudson Jones Posted November 16, 2011 Report Posted November 16, 2011 Last I checked, BP developed that oil. BP supplied the capital that made the development possible. Mossadegh expropriated the oil. Something is wrong with this picture. The British had the technology at the time to bring the oil out, but the oil did not belong to BP. From what I have read, despite Mossadegh's insistence, BP was not even willing to go 50/50 on the profit of the Iranian oil. Even though they had such deals in the Arab states. Any country and its leader should be commended for standing up for itself in such a situation. Mossadegh was an important figure in the Iranian history. One of few who championed democracy and put Iran above the interest of foreign powers. He was the only politician that was able to push for real democracy and the British and Americans worked together to end that. I am not sure why you would be in favour of the British and American actions to overthrow such a person. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
kactus Posted November 16, 2011 Report Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) The British had the technology at the time to bring the oil out, but the oil did not belong to BP. From what I have read, despite Mossadegh's insistence, BP was not even willing to go 50/50 on the profit of the Iranian oil. Even though they had such deals in the Arab states. Any country and its leader should be commended for standing up for itself in such a situation. Mossadegh was an important figure in the Iranian history. One of few who championed democracy and put Iran above the interest of foreign powers. He was the only politician that was able to push for real democracy and the British and Americans worked together to end that. I am not sure why you would be in favour of the British and American actions to overthrow such a person. You know it beats me. On one hand he is not short in defending Israel on every single occasion their government is criticized even if they have violated the internalional norms but wouldn't mind if the rights of other countries is trampled...It's is rather astonishing that he never falls short to criticize the leaders of the middle eastern countries for their brutality yet thinks removing a democratically elected government is just a "great idea"!!! Edited November 16, 2011 by kactus Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Posted November 16, 2011 ...It's is rather astonishing that he never falls short to criticize the leaders of the middle eastern countries for their brutality yet thinks removing a democratically elected government is just a "great idea"!!! Ask Paul Martin...he did it to Haiti....great idea! Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Â
jbg Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 One of few who championed democracy and put Iran above the interest of foreign powers. He was the only politician that was able to push for real democracy and the British and Americans worked together to end that. I am not sure why you would be in favour of the British and American actions to overthrow such a person. Real champion of democracy? As in "one man, one vote, one time"? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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