bremmer Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 And ends in Toronto too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Fat Ford soon to be skinny Toronto. I doubt if he will lose body mass....during his tenure...I am sure that the rest of us will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Well this should go over well with the more socially conservative citizens of Ford Nation: Mammoliti renews push for Toronto Island brothels Yes that surprised me a bit. Then again Mr. Mammoliti is a bit of a titty. That rhymes. He likes to get his name in the news for any reason. I am sure he just said that to titilate people. Its what he does-he's starved for attention. You can be sure if Ford is Mayor that would never happen. Now me I am for legalized prostitution. How can I not be? After all I make it a point to vote in every election. Seriously I doubt George Mammory Glands was being serious but the double standard about prosititution is ludicrous. It in fact thrives as the escort business. Time to tax it like good socialists! Onwords ! Tax and regulate sex acts! Sorry I got carried away. I was about to have a fiscal orgasm over that concept of taxing sex acts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted May 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 Ford opens vault for cops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 Ford opens vault for cops Come on , Fords idea of stopping the gravy train was in order to fill it up-it was low on gravy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Any one that wants to turn one of the worlds most beautiful parks (Centre Island) into a late night stomping ground for horney old Italian men should be removed from office. Prostitution is ugly - Toronto Island is beautiful - I don't see how the concepts of ugly and beauty fit? This guy on working for the city of Toronto should be thinking of other things than his fixation on hooker - maybe like doing his job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleClassCentrist Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 I hope that he doesn't use the misguided Public Private Partnerships that Conservatives love. Another ideological policy that fails. The public ends up paying more and getting less... Just look at the Brampton Hospital Fiasco. Public Private Partnerships http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/in-this-ppp-taxpayers-are-the-ones-who-paid/article970191/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted May 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 (edited) Come on , Fords idea of stopping the gravy train was in order to fill it up-it was low on gravy It seems the Fords are only after certain kinds of gravy. “It just seems like we’re pounding away on the police here when there’s so many other inefficiencies in the city.” Councillor Doug Ford complaining about the budget committee’s hour and a half discussion on the Toronto police paid duty system. The committee recommended a number of changes to help curb costs, after an audit found that paid duty services amounted to $29-million in 2009, $7.8-million of which was paid for by the city. Also, if the cop budget hike goes through, it'll be interesting to see how the negotiations for that other essential service, the TTC, go once they have this kind of precedent. It's also funny how all the right-wing anti-union rhetoric dries up when it comes to the boys in blue. Edited May 11, 2011 by Black Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Also, if the cop budget hike goes through, it'll be interesting to see how the negotiations for that other essential service, the TTC, go once they have this kind of precedent. It's also funny how all the right-wing anti-union rhetoric dries up when it comes to the boys in blue. Typical Ford BS. What do you think about Muhkerjee (sp?) letter to Dalton? I think he has a valid point in so far as the province is not w/o blame for some of this mess. But again, had it been any other union Fatso Ford would have said "who cares, we are cutting the fat" The whole police thing is a scam. And Vaughan is right, any senior can be entrusted to police a crosswalk for ouir kids, but no one but the cops can police a hole in the road. All at triple the going rate. The entire police force has become scummy. It went that way when Fatino came on the scene. (yes Fatino) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted May 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Typical Ford BS. What do you think about Muhkerjee (sp?) letter to Dalton? I think he has a valid point in so far as the province is not w/o blame for some of this mess. But again, had it been any other union Fatso Ford would have said "who cares, we are cutting the fat" It seems like a chicken and egg scenario to me. And again you're bang on about the union issue: public sector unions are the enemy of the right unless its the cops (whom I suspect tend to skew conservative more than other union blocs). The whole police thing is a scam. And Vaughan is right, any senior can be entrusted to police a crosswalk for ouir kids, but no one but the cops can police a hole in the road. All at triple the going rate. Biking down Bloor the other day and there were three cops overseeing a construction site over a two block radius. Repairing the gravy pipes, perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) Repairing the gravy pipes, perhaps? No0t very nice of me to laugh at his weight, but sometimes all I can think of is the Monty Python skit where the maitre 'd offers Mr Creosote "just one wafer thin mint" Edited May 12, 2011 by guyser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted May 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Team Ford attempting to stack consultation process on cuts Mayor Rob Ford is calling Ford Nation to take part in the review of all city services.The rallying cry — sent via e-mail Wednesday to those who signed up for Ford’s election campaign updates — didn’t sit well with Ford’s foes. On Wednesday the city announced eight public roundtable sessions that will take place over the next month where residents can weigh in on what city services they want saved and those they could live without. In the e-mail entitled “Mayor Ford needs your help!” Ford supporters are urged to register for the sessions which will have limited space so they can let city staff hear their voice. “This is about respect for taxpayers — watching your tax dollars is what Mayor Ford committed to do,” the e-mail states. “But he needs your help to let the city know what your priorities are.” The note includes links to the website outlining the city’s service review and where people can register for the roundtable sessions. I love the photo that goes with the piece. What a couple of meatheads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted July 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Where's the gravy at? The review of city public works programs by KPMG consultants gave Toronto its first good look at what it will take to get city finances in line and it has nothing to do with cutting back on hired chipmunk suits, overpriced plant waterers or any of the other fluff that Rob Ford went on about during last year’s election campaign.What we are facing instead is the prospect of cuts on things as practical as grass cutting, snow shovelling and recyclables collection. Link More context: The Public Works committee is responsible for slightly over $1-billion in spending, but consultants found that 96 per cent of all services that report to the Public Works committee are untouchable -- that is, they are either provincially legislated or necessary to the ongoing viability of the city.Of those core functions, 30 per cent are operating at above mandated service level, offering an opportunity for service cuts, according to the consultants. link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treehugger Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Where's the gravy at? Link More context: link THEREFORE they have bben offered a great payout plan and are hoping they will all take it. like the greedy pigs will. You all seem to be talking down on Ford when in fact he was not a mayor when all of these union bloodsuckers got hired and are now in an iron clad aggreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted July 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 (edited) THEREFORE they have bben offered a great payout plan and are hoping they will all take it. like the greedy pigs will. You all seem to be talking down on Ford when in fact he was not a mayor when all of these union bloodsuckers got hired and are now in an iron clad aggreement. Obviously you didn't read the link since I'm not talking about the proposed buyout plan. But since you bring it up, the fact you consider each and every city employee a "greedy pig" and a "bloodsucker" says a lot more about you than it does about them. Edited July 12, 2011 by Black Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I tend to agree with James and when I read about all the "cuts" to be made with an estimate of the savings, I had the same thoughts. This is nickel and dime stuff. James: Rob Ford’s gravy train running on fumes Nice line here though: That’s how Mayor Rob Ford seems to have started his much heralded attempt to tame the city’s behemoth of a budget.As citizens tuned in to hear how the mayor intends to reduce the size and scope of government — his winning mantra in last fall’s municipal election — Ford was absent from the parade, ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Well it looks like Ford couldn't find the gravy, so he's offering buyouts to most city staff. Unbelievable. Those who don't go know they'll be facing huge workloads. I'll bet the managers are going nuts wondering how they can plan to deliver services not knowing who they'll have left. What a nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted July 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 At this point, when Ford says there are "thousands" of superfluous staff at City Hall, is there any reason anyone should believe him? From his no service cuts guarantee, to "the city has a spending problem, not a revenue problem", has he made a single pronouncement that has not subsequently been proven to be false? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Well it looks like Ford couldn't find the gravy, so he's offering buyouts to most city staff. Offering buyouts is not the same as "most city staff" taking the buyouts. All things considered, only someone close to retirement would agree to a package and that is simply accelerating attrition and then not back-filling the positions. Unbelievable. Those who don't go know they'll be facing huge workloads. This ia s huge presumption. First of all, you are presuming that the workforce is currently at capacity for the delivery of their services. Secondly, there is the presumption that efficiencies won't be gained throughout the whole process. I'll bet the managers are going nuts wondering how they can plan to deliver services not knowing who they'll have left. Somehow I doubt this. Especially this early in the process. I went through a similar exercise with the Federal government back in the day and it was a fairly orderly process that did not reduce service levels that much and, in fact, spurred on the idea of "shared services" which was a cost saving efficiency. What a nightmare. Hyperbole much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 At this point, when Ford says there are "thousands" of superfluous staff at City Hall, is there any reason anyone should believe him? From his no service cuts guarantee, to "the city has a spending problem, not a revenue problem", has he made a single pronouncement that has not subsequently been proven to be false? It is baffling. It doesn't even seem that these measures of austerity will even cover off the the money the City lost when they repealed the car tax. I think they will quickly find that to make the sort of promised gains, this will have to shut the City down for a few weeks each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 It is baffling. It doesn't even seem that these measures of austerity will even cover off the the money the City lost when they repealed the car tax. I think they will quickly find that to make the sort of promised gains, this will have to shut the City down for a few weeks each year. So you guise are in denial that perhaps Toronto has a spending problem? You really think every civil servant is worth their bloated salary and every service the city provides is sacrosanct? Not sure I would agree with some of these proposals but I suppose tough decisions need to be made. I actually don't think a steep tax hike can be avoided at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 So you guise are in denial that perhaps Toronto has a spending problem? Nope, not at all. However, according to some news stories, the areas being looked at by the consultants are mostly core services. Do you think that perhaps Toronto has a spending problem with core services? You really think every civil servant is worth their bloated salary and every service the city provides is sacrosanct? Did I say that? Do you have proof that every civil servant has a bloated salary? Do you want to argue your ideology with me? Not sure I would agree with some of these proposals but I suppose tough decisions need to be made. I actually don't think a steep tax hike can be avoided at this point. So by "steep tax hike" do you mean a car tax or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Ford looks like and is a classic and plumb mafia boss - during the election we had a choice - the gay mafia under Smitherman - or the straight anglo mafia under Ford..We choose Ford who for being what he is still has more power than the gays - and is still better connected than the gays that were attempting to turn Toronto into some sort of gay utopia that the straight tax payer would have to fund - Where the liberally minded failed, was in the fact that the immigrant vote..that they thought they had under control were NOT liberal in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted July 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 So you guise are in denial that perhaps Toronto has a spending problem? It's early days yet, but the initial audits by KPMG are showing that assumption to be, if not false, then highly debateable. The majority of what the city spends, it spends because it has to. You really think every civil servant is worth their bloated salary and every service the city provides is sacrosanct? I can think of at least two very prominent civil servants who are definitely not worth their bloated salaries. But seriously: outside of anecdotal evidence, what do you have to support your conclusion? Not sure I would agree with some of these proposals but I suppose tough decisions need to be made. I actually don't think a steep tax hike can be avoided at this point. That's the reality. The oceans of gravy ford has promised to find aren't there and he's made the fiscal problem worse by cutting revenue, blowing through the surplus and is now looking at plugging the big hole looming over the 2012 budget with short-term fixes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 I don't have access to the payroll of City Hall but I'd imagine there are plenty of pencil pushers that aren't incharge of core service that make a nice wage and the city would do fine without. But these are real people with real families and to put them out of work would be heartless. Granted that's what goes on in the private sector all the time. Why is the public sector so special? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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