Mr.Canada Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 An example of what? You claimed 1,500 jobs were going to be cut: where's the evidence? Just wait and you'll see what I'm saying is accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted February 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Just wait and you'll see what I'm saying is accurate. I won't hold my breath. Incidentally, did you see that Ford's request to the province included more money for the Canada-Ontario Affordable Housing Program, which presumably includes the salaries of some of the 900 people you are so confident will be unemployed soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I won't hold my breath. Incidentally, did you see that Ford's request to the province included more money for the Canada-Ontario Affordable Housing Program, which presumably includes the salaries of some of the 900 people you are so confident will be unemployed soon? It's a provincial initiative. Why shouldn't the province pay for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky10013 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 There is tons of waste at City Hall. Lots of cuts are coming, stay tuned. 1500 jobs are going to be cut very soon. Where is the waste exactly? We've been hearing this refrain for over a year now. Incidentally, even councilors who were Ford supporters are coming out and saying there is no gravy. In addition to this, how much money will 1500 job cuts save the city? Will it be enough to wipe out the deficit next year? Will it be enough to cover that 350 million he went hat in hand to McGuinty for? No, at most a few million dollars. That's the idiotic thing about Conservatives. They bitch and whine left and right about the waste here and the waste there and how horrible the inefficiency of government is yet they never take the time to actually figure out how much money certain services cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Miller had those f-ing books in order and Ford came in thinking "I'm a Conservative I will cut taxes and money will rain from the sky." However it didn't now their is a budget gap as big as his tax cuts. Their is the problem, I found it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted March 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Ford switches to bully mode Toronto Mayor Rob Ford said he’s “absolutely” ready to play hardball with a provincial government reluctant to agree to his request for $150-million this year. And in a talk radio interview Wednesday morning he threatened to ensure the Liberals don’t get back into office at Queen’s Park following this fall’s election.... “If I need help from the province then I’ll ask for their help. And if they choose not to help us, then I have no other choice but to get out, as I call it, ‘Ford nation’ and make sure they’re not re-elected in the next election.” But...but...the gravy! What about all the gravy that was pouring out of city hall in rivers? What's also funny is the idea that "Ford nation" would be voting Liberal in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 What's also funny is the idea that "Ford nation" would be voting Liberal in the first place. How many seats did the PCs pick up in North York and Etobicoke last election? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted March 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 How many seats did the PCs pick up in North York and Etobicoke last election? Fair enough, but how are they polling now? The other question is how much influence his lardship actually has on provincial voting habits. He might be overestimating his own influence here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Fair enough, but how are they polling now? The other question is how much influence his lardship actually has on provincial voting habits. He might be overestimating his own influence here. He may....but the polls show that the voters in Toronto approve of Ford so far. He's carrying the bully club and by dog let him use it. A majority of Toronto residents approve of the job Mayor Rob Ford is doing, an opinion poll released Tuesday suggests. The Forum Research poll suggests Ford has a 60 per cent approval rating across the city, with a large section of the population supporting some of the mayor's more controversial policies .http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2011/03/01/toronto-ford-poll.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted March 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 We'll see I guess. I'm not as up on my provincial politics, but I have to wonder: does Ford think a Hudak government that's promising the same type of austerity Mayor Ford and his brother Rob campaigned on will be more open to opening the taxpayer's wallet? I suppose so, politics being simply a low form of skullduggery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted March 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Interesting. The Ford poll that gave him a huge approval rating seems to haveasked some rather shifty questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Hopefully Ford can find some gravy to go with the pork by cutting the paid duty Police scam. $29 M is nothing to sneeze at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Interesting. The Ford poll that gave him a huge approval rating seems to haveasked some rather shifty questions. Not so much shifty but unlearned. Still, if the poll has an accuracy, it doesn't bode well for the Ontario Liberals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted March 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Not so much shifty but unlearned. Still, if the poll has an accuracy, it doesn't bode well for the Ontario Liberals. Aren't you just assuming support for Ford will translate directly to support for the provincial Tories. Didn't I do the same thing earlier, only to have you correct me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Aren't you just assuming support for Ford will translate directly to support for the provincial Tories. Didn't I do the same thing earlier, only to have you correct me? I thought I agreed with you? nevertheless, the polls show that the voting intentions in Toronto are evenly split between the two parties....which is not good for the liberals. I suspect we may see a minority legislature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky10013 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 I thought I agreed with you? nevertheless, the polls show that the voting intentions in Toronto are evenly split between the two parties....which is not good for the liberals. I suspect we may see a minority legislature. The last one had the Liberals with a 15 point lead in the City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 The last one had the Liberals with a 15 point lead in the City. Ford nation is assembling and going to get the conservative message out to the people of Toronto. The Tories of all stripes will break into the Liberal Fortress Toronto in the upcoming elections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted March 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Ford nation is assembling and going to get the conservative message out to the people of Toronto. The Tories of all stripes will break into the Liberal Fortress Toronto in the upcoming elections. If he possessed the minutest amount of self-awareness (or irony), Rob Ford would be aware that he is getting mad at the Premier and the Minister of Finance for saying the very thing that he credits with winning him the keys to the Mayor’s office: to wit, “there’s no more money.” Tighten your belt. Make do. Stop complaining, etc. etc. You know, Rob Fordy stuff.When Rob Ford says it, it’s okay. When someone says it to Rob Ford, well, he has a five-alarm hissy fit, and he makes asinine threats about mobilizing his (theoretical) army of winged monkeys. This guy is going to win us just about every seat in the GTA. Just watch. link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Ford nation is assembling and going to get the conservative message out to the people of Toronto. And just what is this "conservative message"? Because no one's telling, including the conservatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Mayor Ford has saved the taxpayer $67 million so far in a little over 100 days. Mayor Miller never did that in 7 years. There is much more gravy to cut. Ford Nation is just what Toronto needs to get its fiscal house in order. Toronto is finally waking up from the socialist induced stupor it has been under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Mayor Ford has saved the taxpayer $67 million so far in a little over 100 days. Mayor Miller never did that in 7 years. There is much more gravy to cut. Ford Nation is just what Toronto needs to get its fiscal house in order. Toronto is finally waking up from the socialist induced stupor it has been under. Good, There is no need there to go after the provincial government for money, since we won't need it. right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 (edited) Good, There is no need there to go after the provincial government for money, since we won't need it. right? Once Mayor Ford cleans house and privatizes everything probably not, no. I think he should sell off almost everything to private companies. After that we can lower our taxes by a massive amount and start living decent lives instead of government taking half of our money. Think about it Canadien. If more things were privatized government could lower our taxes because we wouldn't need to fund so many things. Doesn't that sound good? Edited March 7, 2011 by Mr.Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Once Mayor Ford cleans house and privatizes everything probably not, no. I think he should sell off almost everything to private companies. After that we can lower our taxes by a massive amount and start living decent lives instead of government taking half of our money. Think about it Canadien. If more things were privatized government could lower our taxes because we wouldn't need to fund so many things. Doesn't that sound good? Never mind that privitization usally does not improve service, and only produce marginal services. Oh well, but this is not about a better service, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 (edited) The last one had the Liberals with a 15 point lead in the City. The last one is the poll in question...not some nebulous poll done weeks ago.... http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01218/Forum_Research_pol_1218626a.pdf Edited March 7, 2011 by M.Dancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Once Mayor Ford cleans house and privatizes everything probably not, no. I think he should sell off almost everything to private companies. After that we can lower our taxes by a massive amount and start living decent lives instead of government taking half of our money. He cant privatize everything. The Mayor Mel bill ensures that. Perhaps our taxes will be lowered, but your user pay will go thru the roof. "Mr C, I found that the drain to your house...ya know the one that the city used to own, is broken. We can fix it in a jiffy. Can you write us a check for $30,000 now or do you want to go to the bank first?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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