The Democrats Are In HUGE Trouble

[William Ashley]

Whatever will the democrats do without a supramajority?

Edited February 17, 2010 by William Ashley

[punked]

Whatever will the democrats do without a supramajority?

Bipartisanship?

"I really don’t understand how bipartisanship is ever going to work when one of the parties is insane. Imagine trying to negotiate an agreement on dinner plans with your date, and you suggest Italian and she states her preference would be a meal of tire rims and anthrax. If you can figure out a way to split the difference there and find a meal you will both enjoy, you can probably figure out how bipartisanship is going to work the next few years."

[Oleg Bach]

Congress for all intent and purpose is also prorouged.

[sharkman]

Bipartisanship?

"I really don’t understand how bipartisanship is ever going to work when one of the parties is insane. Imagine trying to negotiate an agreement on dinner plans with your date, and you suggest Italian and she states her preference would be a meal of tire rims and anthrax. If you can figure out a way to split the difference there and find a meal you will both enjoy, you can probably figure out how bipartisanship is going to work the next few years."

Payback's a bitch, isn't it?

[Oleg Bach]

Payback's a bitch, isn't it?

There is no place fo r revenge in politics. Those that get personal even on a partisan level, always make the public pay for their little feud...it is counter public service.

[punked]

Payback's a bitch, isn't it?

What payback would that be? Ohhhhh you mean sense the Dems have won back the senate there have been three-four times as many filibusters then when Republicans had it? That isn't payback that is a direct assault on democracy but who cares about democracy surly not the Republicans.

[Oleg Bach]

They should all be sent to filibuster hell for eternity.

[punked]

No they should realize that democracies evolve and if they keep acting like babies the next step is too get rid of the filibuster, or change it.

Don't tell me that isn't what the founding fathers would say because before 1950 the filibuster was used on average three times a year not 154 like the republicans did last year.

[sharkman]

Yep, pay back is a real bitch.

[BubberMiley]

Yep, pay back is a real bitch.

I guess you're not going to explain what you mean by that. Then it would be too easy for people to show how absolutely wrong you are.

Good to see that you're learning.

[sharkman]

In this case it is enough for me to know that those who understand it don't need it explained.

[BubberMiley]

In this case it is enough for me to know that those who understand it don't need it explained.

I figured you had nothing. You're more effective as a cheerleader for Shady than as a relevant poster yourself.

[Shady]

Anyways, back on topic...

If the midterm election was held tomorrow, Republicans would retake control of Congress, Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg said Wednesday.

“If the 2010 election were held now it would look like 1994,” he told reporters at a breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/81781-democrats-must-work-to-avoid-repeat-of-1994

[Shady]

Oh my!

California Senate - Boxer (Dem) vs. Campbell (Rep)

Latest two polls show Boxer up by just 2 and 4 points.

RCP

[Shady]

Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg said Wednesday that if the 2010 election were held today, his party would be faced with a similar result to its catastrophic 1994 losses.

Greenberg, who was Bill Clinton’s pollster in the early 1990s, went on to say that he doesn’t think the current situation will hold over the next seven months, and that he expects things will improve for Democrats

Link

Ouch. My prediction is that November will be worse for the Dems than 1994. I think they'll lose a half a dozen more seats in the current environment.

[BubberMiley]

Ouch. My prediction is that once people see all the "Romneycare" health care bill is not the death panels and socialism the Republicans made it up to be, the Dems will do much better than expected. They might lose a few seats but they'll certainly still hold the house and the senate.

Even Michael Steele agrees with me.

Edited April 1, 2010 by BubberMiley

[Shady]

Ouch. My prediction is that once people see all the "Romneycare" health care bill is not the death panels and socialism the Republicans made it up to be, the Dems will do much better than expected.

I think you must mean Obamacare. Because Romneycare didn't cut medicare or medicaid spending. Romneycare didn't raise taxes on businesses and individuals. Romneycare was 70 pages long, compared to Obamacare's 2000+ pages. Romneycare wasn't passed into law and then put on the backburner for 4 and 8 years, before it actually becomes law. And Romneycare was health reform specific to the state of Massachusetts, not a cookie cutter approach effecting all states. Yeah, other that all that, they're just the same!

They might lose a few seats but they'll certainly still hold the house and the senate.

Even Michael Steele agrees with me.

The reason why the Dems are gonna get tidal waved in November isn't necessarily just about Obamacare. It's about jobs, jobs, jobs.

[BubberMiley]

The reason why the Dems are gonna get tidal waved in November isn't necessarily just about Obamacare. It's about jobs, jobs, jobs.

That's true. And the data that come out in the next few months are going to be key.

I know you're praying the numbers will be bad so that you can crow about the U.S.'s failure. I think you'll be very disappointed.

[Shady]

That's true. And the data that come out in the next few months are going to be key.

I know you're praying the numbers will be bad so that you can crow about the U.S.'s failure. I think you'll be very disappointed.

Nope. I definitely like to see some job creation. Especially since the American economy has such a big impact on whether our economy can grow and be strong. The problem is that Obama's been smothering the private sector for close to a year, helping contribute to a jobless recovery. That being said, the American economy should be able to withstand Obama's smothering and create jobs anyways.

[bush_cheney2004]

That's true. And the data that come out in the next few months are going to be key.

I know you're praying the numbers will be bad so that you can crow about the U.S.'s failure. I think you'll be very disappointed.

All is fair in love, war, and politics. Democrats bemoaned and milked a "jobless recovery" from 2002 through the 2004 election cycle. Unemployment peaked at about 6% in 2003, which would be quite welcomed right now.

[BubberMiley]

All is fair in love, war, and politics.

Oh, I know. But because throughout that whole time Shady was calling any criticism of Bush "anti-American," it's fun to throw it back at him now.

[Shady]

But because throughout that whole time Shady was calling any criticism of Bush "anti-American,"

That might be the biggest lie ever told in this forum. :angry:

[punked]

Ouch. My prediction is that November will be worse for the Dems than 1994. I think they'll lose a half a dozen more seats in the current environment.

Hey actually said if elections were today it COULD be like 1994 or it could not be like 1994 because it is not as bad as 1994 and if its not like 1994 it will be nothing like 1994. So basically he said nothing.

Also Dems have gone from a 10 point gap in Ohio into the lead. Maybe a trend.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1322.xml?ReleaseID=1440

Edited April 2, 2010 by punked

[bush_cheney2004]

Oh, I know. But because throughout that whole time Shady was calling any criticism of Bush "anti-American," it's fun to throw it back at him now.

You can grab-ass with Shady all you want....but bullshit is still bullshit.

[Dithers]

We'll see how this plays out. Republicans have an impressive wave of opposition to ride, but it feels as though it may have already crested. Republicans may need another crisis to maintain this favorable outlook.

Edited April 2, 2010 by Dithers