DogOnPorch Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 So what? There are people on this planet that would shoot you dead with that AK-47 just because you aren't like them. That's what. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
ironstone Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 I guess nobody really has the market on bad taste cornered.I've seen countless t-shirts in bad taste,heck maybe one or two were mine.It's still turning a molehill into a mountain as far as I'm concerned.Not for a second am I trying to trivialize the deaths of innocent civilians,whatever nationality they may be.But I cannot fathom how people are totally unmoved by tactics like suicide bombings and barrages of low tech rockets both of which are specifically aimed at civilians!Give your heads a shake!That is as polite as I can put it. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Oleg Bach Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 I guess nobody really has the market on bad taste cornered.I've seen countless t-shirts in bad taste,heck maybe one or two were mine.It's still turning a molehill into a mountain as far as I'm concerned.Not for a second am I trying to trivialize the deaths of innocent civilians,whatever nationality they may be.But I cannot fathom how people are totally unmoved by tactics like suicide bombings and barrages of low tech rockets both of which are specifically aimed at civilians!Give your heads a shake!That is as polite as I can put it. I can not get my head around how the Jews are so proud to have slipped the bonds of slavery - yet Palistine gets 50 dollars in aid - and Israel gets billions...This causes a slave master relationship between the Israeli and Palistinians ---Have you ever heard of a cheap labour crossing from Israel into Palistine to work? You can say that suicide bombers are fanatics..and some are dupes - but imagine the ones that are sane? What great and relentless injustice could drive a human being to sacrafice themselves in such a manner? As for the rockets..these primative tubes with a charge on the tip equal to 100 fire crackers... They are pea shooters compared to a helicopter gun ship that plants itself 500 feet in the air and sprays down munitions like bug spray on ants confined in a box...There is no difference in war between civilians and so-called soldiers..What is a non-civilian other than some dumb kid given basic training -----? What is a civilian - some crying woman complaining that those "terrorists put a hole in her living room wall big enough toss a basket ball though...as she weeps for the camera - an another huge cheque arrives at the door that is an American subsidy>// This whole mess stinks...and it's mindless. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 I can not get my head around how the Jews are so proud to have slipped the bonds of slavery - yet Palistine gets 50 dollars in aid - and Israel gets billions...This causes a slave master relationship between the Israeli and Palistinians ---Have you ever heard of a cheap labour crossing from Israel into Palistine to work? Nope.....the Palestinians need a better Sugar Daddy. You can say that suicide bombers are fanatics..and some are dupes - but imagine the ones that are sane? What great and relentless injustice could drive a human being to sacrafice themselves in such a manner? Pubic lice? As for the rockets..these primative tubes with a charge on the tip equal to 100 fire crackers... They are pea shooters compared to a helicopter gun ship that plants itself 500 feet in the air and sprays down munitions like bug spray on ants confined in a box... Then I'm sure Hamilton, Ontarion wouldn't mind having a few thousand sent their way. There is no difference in war between civilians and so-called soldiers..What is a non-civilian other than some dumb kid given basic training -----? What is a civilian - some crying woman complaining that those "terrorists put a hole in her living room wall big enough toss a basket ball though...as she weeps for the camera - an another huge cheque arrives at the door that is an American subsidy>// This whole mess stinks...and it's mindless. Been going on for a long time...no end in sight. Praise Allah! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 There are people on this planet that would shoot you dead with that AK-47 just because you aren't like them. That's what. Once viewed as the enemy, anything is possible. Personally, I think you're going insane as an individual. But, you didn't get that way on your own. Sort of like a big cat in a cage being poked from all sides... (Are you aware of the ironic analogy...lol) Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 Once viewed as the enemy, anything is possible. Personally, I think you're going insane as an individual. But, you didn't get that way on your own. Sort of like a big cat in a cage being poked from all sides...(Are you aware of the ironic analogy...lol) I gather nobody has tried to kill you. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dub Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 I gather nobody has tried to kill you. i'm sure someone would want to kill me if i killed their family, took away their land and made their life miserable for the past 60+ years. Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 i'm sure someone would want to kill me if i killed their family, took away their land and made their life miserable for the past 60+ years. But you haven't.....and neother have 99.9% of Israelis.....so what excuse do you have for the palestinians who murder woman and children? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
eyeball Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 I gather nobody has tried to kill you. More to the point though, neither have I. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Oleg Bach Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 There are people on this planet that would shoot you dead with that AK-47 just because you aren't like them. That's what. Oh _ I would adapt with lightning speed and would be JUST like them in no time flat - they would love me ...and then I would sneak away before they discovered my bluff. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 i'm sure someone would want to kill me if i killed their family, took away their land and made their life miserable for the past 60+ years. I have no hatred for the Irish. Gerry Kelly is another matter. But, apparently he's reformed so I've called off the vendetta. Now if only Hamas could be a wee bit more like me... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 More to the point though, neither have I. Good to hear... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 Good to hear... That did come out kinda funny didn't it? Of course what I meant was I've never tried to kill anyone else. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted March 26, 2009 Report Posted March 26, 2009 That did come out kinda funny didn't it? Of course what I meant was I've never tried to kill anyone else. No worries. I understood. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
BC_chick Posted March 26, 2009 Report Posted March 26, 2009 Personally, I think Israel is going insane as a country. But, it didn't get that way on its own. Sort of like a big cat in a cage being poked from all sides... So let's get this straight. When Israelis resort to barbaric behaviour it's because they were pushed to that level and they're just human reacting to a bad situation. When Palestinians act barbaric after losing their homes and being treated like second-class citizens, they're what? Just being Muslims? Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
DogOnPorch Posted March 26, 2009 Report Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) So let's get this straight. When Israelis resort to barbaric behaviour it's because they were pushed to that level and they're just human reacting to a bad situation. When Palestinians act barbaric after losing their homes and being treated like second-class citizens, they're what? Just being Muslims? Who is treating Palestinian Arabs as second class citizens? Hamas or Fatah? Edited March 26, 2009 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dub Posted March 26, 2009 Report Posted March 26, 2009 Who is treating Palestinian Arabs as second class citizens? Hamas or Fatah? fatah is. hamas is feeding on their fear, but is still less corrupt than fatah. are the palestinians living in the carved out area named israel treated as second class citizens to the jews of israel? absolutely. as bad as their condition is, they are very fortunate that they don't live under the conditions their relatives just outside of the border have Quote
BC_chick Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 Who is treating Palestinian Arabs as second class citizens? Hamas or Fatah? Your point being, I suppose, that the Palestinian anger is misdirected at Israel when they should be looking more in the mirror. By the same token, I could say Israelis who hate Palestinians should be angry at their own government and its policies in the occupied territories for endangering their collective lives. However, my point wasn't where or at whom blind rage should be directed. On either side. It was why you find it so much more acceptable that one side behaves barbaric at times, but you malign the other side for doing the same thing. Let's see if you acknowledge that the second time around. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
DogOnPorch Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 Your point being, I suppose, that the Palestinian anger is misdirected at Israel when they should be looking more in the mirror. By the same token, I could say Israelis who hate Palestinians should be angry at their own government and its policies in the occupied territories for endangering their collective lives. However, my point wasn't where or at whom blind rage should be directed. On either side. It was why you find it so much more acceptable that one side behaves barbaric at times, but you malign the other side for doing the same thing. Let's see if you acknowledge that the second time around. Hamas gives the Nazi salute on parade. No wonder as one of their main influences is Mohammad Amin al-Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem from 1921-1948 and defacto leader of the Palestinian Arabs until his nephew Yasser Arafat al-Husseini took the reigns in 1964. If you are unaware of the Palestinian's former leader, you might be surprised to find he was a full general in the Schutstaffel (the SS), part of Hitler's inside circle, hunting chums with Himmler and Eichmann and one of the key figures in the 'Final Solution' part of The Holocaust. It was the Mufti that initially rejected the UN Partition and led the call for Jihad. Never watched 'Exodus' I gather... Do you think I'm jus' makin' dat sh!t up? Or perhaps you tell yourself they're reformed to get over that taste of National Socialism in the back of your throat. I'm not sure what makes people support these dangerous fascists. But I do notice that their propaganda is working well on the left-leaning side of the political spectrum. "The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan... He was one of Eichmann's best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chambers of Auschwitz." ---Dieter Wisliceny: Nuremberg, 1946 So if I find one side is 'good' while the other is 'evil', you'll just have to accept I have my reasons for not supporting Nazis. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dub Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 So if I find one side is 'good' while the other is 'evil', you'll just have to accept I have my reasons for not supporting Nazis. you usually use the holocaust card when you have no response. it's been happening a lot recently. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 28, 2009 Report Posted March 28, 2009 you usually use the holocaust card when you have no response. it's been happening a lot recently. Gee...why not just not talk about it...or better yet deny it happened... Isn't that what your buddies do in Gaza? Are you going to start now? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dub Posted March 28, 2009 Report Posted March 28, 2009 Gee...why not just not talk about it...or better yet deny it happened...Isn't that what your buddies do in Gaza? Are you going to start now? are you talking about israel's war crimes? Quote
BC_chick Posted March 28, 2009 Report Posted March 28, 2009 Hamas gives the Nazi salute on parade. No wonder as one of their main influences is Mohammad Amin al-Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem from 1921-1948 and defacto leader of the Palestinian Arabs until his nephew Yasser Arafat al-Husseini took the reigns in 1964. If you are unaware of the Palestinian's former leader, you might be surprised to find he was a full general in the Schutstaffel (the SS), part of Hitler's inside circle, hunting chums with Himmler and Eichmann and one of the key figures in the 'Final Solution' part of The Holocaust. It was the Mufti that initially rejected the UN Partition and led the call for Jihad. Never watched 'Exodus' I gather...Do you think I'm jus' makin' dat sh!t up? Or perhaps you tell yourself they're reformed to get over that taste of National Socialism in the back of your throat. I'm not sure what makes people support these dangerous fascists. But I do notice that their propaganda is working well on the left-leaning side of the political spectrum. So if I find one side is 'good' while the other is 'evil', you'll just have to accept I have my reasons for not supporting Nazis. As I said earlier: However, my point wasn't where or at whom blind rage should be directed. On either side. It was why you find it so much more acceptable that one side behaves barbaric at times, but you malign the other side for doing the same thing. Let's see if you acknowledge that the second third time around. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
DogOnPorch Posted March 28, 2009 Report Posted March 28, 2009 As I said earlier:However, my point wasn't where or at whom blind rage should be directed. On either side. It was why you find it so much more acceptable that one side behaves barbaric at times, but you malign the other side for doing the same thing. Let's see if you acknowledge that the second third time around. Answer: So if I find one side is 'good' while the other is 'evil', you'll just have to accept I have my reasons for not supporting Nazis. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
BC_chick Posted March 28, 2009 Report Posted March 28, 2009 Answer: So if I find one side is 'good' while the other is 'evil', you'll just have to accept I have my reasons for not supporting Nazis. What colour is the sky in your world where 'good' gloats about killing children and pregnant women? Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
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