jbg Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 To refuse to accept that there are fanatical elements in any nation whether they are jews, christians or muslims and insinuating that all muslims irrepsective of their nationality are fanatics is biased and crosses the line! It is not so much an issue when people criticise a government or their policies but it does escalate into a bigger problem when you make attacks against all muslims as a rational for an argument!Since you brought the example of 911 it's ironic that the majority of those culprits were actually of saudi and egyptian origin (action of a few) Using that logic does that qualify to punish iranian community? You still haven't addressed the disproportionate propensity for violenceand the fact that the mainstream Muslim community (unlike Jewish and Christian communities) does not in plain language attack violence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 You are mistaken....it wasn't thrown out, it was sealed....just like you don't know the details of the out of court settlement.... there was no 'settlement' in scott ritter's case. in fact, the case was dismissed. the WND case was not dismissed. it was settled out of court, kind of like how michael jackson settled his child molestation out of court. you're wrong again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 there was no 'settlement' in scott ritter's case. in fact, the case was dismissed. \ Please show were it was dismissed and the reasons the WND case was not dismissed. it was settled out of court, kind of like how michael jackson settled his child molestation out of court. you're wrong again. Please show the settlement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 You still haven't addressed the disproportionate propensity for violenceand the fact that the mainstream Muslim community (unlike Jewish and Christian communities) does not in plain language attack violence. What do you mean by disproportionate propensity for violence? Again if you are talking about all muslims I have made that my views clear time and again in plain english! I have no wish to get dragged into this argument over palestinian and israeli conflicts and what some may consider disproportionate acts in their wars against terrorists. I have no symapthy for either groups whether palesinians or israelis with their own little propaganda machine pump out images and news that are aimed at garnering sympathy to their cause. My point of contention is the fact that not all muslims are violent or have the propensity for violence as much or even more than jews. The trouble is many people see this as war over religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) \Please show were it was dismissed and the reasons it's a google search away. you do your own work. you're wrong again.Please show the settlement. stop being so lazy. why don't you google it? since the window was already open, here it is: WND settles $165 million libel case Out-of-court agreement ends 7-year-old suit Posted: February 13, 2008 7:17 pm Eastern MEMPHIS, Tenn. – A 7-year-old, $165 million defamation case against WND springing from a series of stories about then-presidential candidate Al Gore has been settled. look at what else WND was forced to publish: "Discovery has revealed to WorldNetDaily.com that no witness verifies the truth of what the witnesses are reported by authors to have stated. Additionally, no document has been discovered that provides any verification that the statements written were true. the WND likes to talk out of its ass. i can see why DoP likes to quote from WND. Edited April 2, 2009 by dub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 it's a google search away. you do your own work. You made the claim. You said it was dismisses,, If you can't provide a source your claim fails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) You made the claim. You said it was dismisses,, If you can't provide a source your claim fails. you were the one making comments about it, i figured you had made some research since you had an opinion about it. do you usually give opinions on issues you do not know about? here is some information on the dismissal. Edited April 2, 2009 by dub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 you were the one making comments about it, i figured you had made some research since you had an opinion about it. do you usually give opinions on issues you do not know about?here is some information on the dismissal. Wow...is he scum or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Wow...is he scum or what? what? is that your way of acknowledging that scott ritter's case was dismissed? thanx for coming out. both you and DoP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 what?is that your way of acknowledging that scott ritter's case was dismissed? thanx for coming out. both you and DoP. No it's acknowledging that the proscuter was dismissed, that officials are dismayed that it wasn't purued and that it was sealed, to be dismissed later if he doen't get arrested again for luring minors..... ..anyone know if Ritter been taking holidays in Thailand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 No it's acknowledging that the proscuter was dismissed, that officials are dismayed that it wasn't purued and that it was sealed, to be dismissed later if he doen't get arrested again for luring minors.......anyone know if Ritter been taking holidays in Thailand? he stood in front of a judge and the judge dismissed the case. you think he would not be arrested and charged if he was guilty? get real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 he stood in front of a judge and the judge dismissed the case. you think he would not be arrested and charged if he was guilty? get real. I take the nuance was lost on you...it was sealed....and would stay sealed if he did not re-offend. If he got off, he would have been found not guilty. He was not found not guilty nor was the case dismissed out of hand.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) With G20S headed by Gordon Brown, it now seems a step in the right direction for boosting the ailing economy. Let's hope Obama can bring in some sanity into the foreign policy that concerns the very major topic discussed here. Edited April 2, 2009 by kactus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I take the nuance was lost on you...it was sealed....and would stay sealed if he did not re-offend. If he got off, he would have been found not guilty. He was not found not guilty nor was the case dismissed out of hand.... re-offend? the case was dismissed. he was not charged. he is not guilty of being a child molester. what part of that do you not understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 here is some information on the dismissal. I see you changed you link...nice way to cover your ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 re-offend? the case was dismissed. he was not charged. he is not guilty of being a child molester. what part of that do you not understand? I don't understand why you would change your link simply because you didn't like the facts.... . The case was adjourned in contemplation of dismissal, meaning the charges would be dropped and the records sealed if he didn't break the law for a six-month period. http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/Ritter_Ti...onArticles.html If ihe was innocent...why the provisio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Is this still the Obama and Iran and Israel thread?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I think the world is going to be in for a bumpy ride with the new Prez of Israel. When he decides to go into Iran, we may see a mini-nuke war between the two countries and this Prez seems to not care about what the US has to say as far as Iran goes. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7977395.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Is this still the Obama and Iran and Israel thread?????? i wish we would go back to it, but DoP and Dancer like to smear and lie about people and they think they can just get away with it. do they think this is foxnews and they're hannity and o'reilly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 i wish we would go back to it, but DoP and Dancer like to smear and lie about people and they think they can just get away with it. do they think this is foxnews and they're hannity and o'reilly? You are so full of it I can smell you from here....you have to be one of the most dishonest postewrs around, and if you are not dishonest then you are just plain stupid. On the otherhand you're probably both....only a complete and utter imbecile would be so dioshonest and try and switch links thinking he could score a point that way.... My god, you're a plagiarizing link switcher! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 i wish we would go back to it, but DoP and Dancer like to smear and lie about people and they think they can just get away with it. do they think this is foxnews and they're hannity and o'reilly? Now you have crossed the line! :angry: .Badmouthing my Fox News channel.It's unlikely you have ever watched either of the above mentioned programs or you wouldn't be making such foolish statements.You probably don't like Fox precisely because they are fair and balanced in their coverage of the news.The words "fair"and "balanced"make left wingers like yourself very uncomfortable because they are so diametrically opposed to socialist ideology.Why does reason frighten you so much?Stop lashing out,if someone does not agree with you it's not the end of the bloody world. Gotta go now,Bill comes on at 8 and I must get prepared with a cold beer and snacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 i wish we would go back to it, but DoP and Dancer like to smear and lie about people and they think they can just get away with it. do they think this is foxnews and they're hannity and o'reilly? What's there to say? I don't think Israel can pull it off without outside help (airstrike). Maybe they could pull an Entebbe...but I think Iran's nuclear facilities are a wee bit tougher than Idi Amin's airport security. I'm not sure the US is willing to co-operate at that level when it could just do the job by itself in its own time. A far more likely route would be the assassination of the key figures/scientists in Iran's nuclear program hoping to stall it due to lack of brain power. But that wouldn't be a walk in the park, either. I imagine they are also well guarded. O'Reilly is a douche-bag. More a Hitchens man when it comes to talking heads. Lewis Black can often ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I think the world is going to be in for a bumpy ride with the new Prez of Israel. When he decides to go into Iran, we may see a mini-nuke war between the two countries and this Prez seems to not care about what the US has to say as far as Iran goes. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7977395.stm No, it would be just like any other war. What's so special about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Now you have crossed the line! :angry: .Badmouthing my Fox News channel.It's unlikely you have ever watched either of the above mentioned programs or you wouldn't be making such foolish statements.You probably don't like Fox precisely because they are fair and balanced in their coverage of the news.The words "fair"and "balanced"make left wingers like yourself very uncomfortable because they are so diametrically opposed to socialist ideology.Why does reason frighten you so much?Stop lashing out,if someone does not agree with you it's not the end of the bloody world.Gotta go now,Bill comes on at 8 and I must get prepared with a cold beer and snacks. that made me lol. have a good weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 I think the world is going to be in for a bumpy ride with the new Prez of Israel. When he decides to go into Iran, we may see a mini-nuke war between the two countries and this Prez seems to not care about what the US has to say as far as Iran goes. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7977395.stm First of all, you betray your ignorance by referring to the "new Prez" of Israel. The President is a ceremonial figure much like your GG.Second of all, if you're right Iran is a dangerous country. Are you saying because they're violent they deserve weapons, the latest toys, just to make Ahmenejad and his clerical mentors happy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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